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No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

The Tories had the first, second and to date only female PMs, they're almost certainly going to have the first BAME PM too

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jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Having nearly all the PMs sure helps

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
The Tory membership don’t give a poo poo about skin colour as long as you’re a Tory.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

jiggerypokery posted:

Having nearly all the PMs sure helps

Okay let's count all of the leaders of the opposition that could have become PM who weren't white men

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Right wing people actively stamp down on people who aren't "like them". They have no particular framing for what counts as "like them", they just instinctively know and often race or skin colour is as important as anything else.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Nadine for PM

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1545441957803134977?t=aGcNbear-Ex8Zu1IBBzWSg

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I'm not heightist but sunak cannot be allowed to be pm. It feels like he is deceptively short, what else is he hiding? can't be trusted.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Dorries or Truss would be good picks, I’d much prefer a Tory PM so devastatingly stupid that it takes them three goes to put their shoes on the correct foot over an unfathomably evil one

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

crispix posted:

like guys you're in the tory party and you're not white, you're never going to be leader
The membership will vote for Bad Enoch on the ballot.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1545702819478622209?s=21&t=rvNpC9E4REm0l71X7zUtKA

This is the point. Tories will happily elect a leader from an ethnic minority because they’re Tories and explicitly don’t attempt to raise any difficult issues.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

The membership will vote for Bad Enoch on the ballot.

Are you a bad enoch dude to become the prime minister?

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

crispix posted:

when you're such a oval office that carter burke is the good guy

Carter Burke for Tim is perfect.

e: Nah, the Tory membership is racist as all gently caress and would never pick an ethic over a god-fearing whitey.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

peanut- posted:

https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1545702819478622209?s=21&t=rvNpC9E4REm0l71X7zUtKA

This is the point. Tories will happily elect a leader from an ethnic minority because they’re Tories and explicitly don’t attempt to raise any difficult issues.

Yes. Plus (as mentioned) the unparalleled joy of being able to say "First woman PM, first BAME PM...Party of Equal Opportunity" to the lefties, which a non-zero percentage of the Tory party membership will hold their blatant racism in check to achieve, and a bigger portion will blunt their more unconscious prejudices with 'one of the good ones' and 'this brown-skinned man says racism doesn't exist...he talks common sense' thoughts.

The worst thing is that they have a point about that first bit - Labour has a pretty shocking record of promoting and voting women and BAME members to the upper levels, let alone as leaders or potential/actual PMs (all besuited white men). And the ones that do get to the higher levels seem to get treated especially shittily, on a spectrum from outright abuse to the 'Blair's Babes' patronising girlboss stuff.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Cimber posted:

By the way, why do conservatives have the nickname Tories? Does Labour have a nickname, or don't they because their name is already one syllable?

The other, non-Tory party was known as the Whigs back when the nicknames were being handed out, which is a good couple of centuries before Labour or socialism had been invented. The Americans had them for a while too (their Tories meanwhile were associated with, well, us, so stopped being very popular around 1776).

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I made a thing

https://twitter.com/stuwyatt/status/1545733928148926465

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

Wallace is out. Good news as he seemed to have a decent chance and was also the most boring of all possible choices.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

ed milliband was the leader of labour during the coalition government, 2010 to 2015. He ate a bacon sandwich in a slightly ungainly fashion and was photographed doing it, which was considered a terrible thing because clearly a man who cannot eat a bacon sandwich in a dignified fashion could never be prime minister, I say, in 2022, putting on the clown makeup.

Also, I note, he's Jewish, and this is back when antisemitism was considered cool and good by the rightwing press rather than a massive stain upon the Labour party and only the Labour party, so y'know, there was a big ol' wink and nudge there in a 'bacon sandwich' context. Think he also got criticised for having two ovens? Which, again...

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Lol

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

And yeah, if there were two otherwise identical candidates, one white, one not, the membership would obviously pick whitey. But they will absolutely go for a PoC Brexit loon/culture warrior over a white person who just wants to be quietly evil.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Unlike the left, who are the real racists, I care about qualifications over colour.

The qualification is "must be a big oval office."

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Miss Daisy doesn't mind if her driver is black, just so long as he knows he's not picking the destination.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!





heh
:dudsmile:

Zephirus
May 18, 2004

BRRRR......CHK

TACD posted:

Dorries or Truss would be good picks, I’d much prefer a Tory PM so devastatingly stupid that it takes them three goes to put their shoes on the correct foot over an unfathomably evil one

Dorries is so thick and gullible it ticks over into evil.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
https://twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/1545665901021827072

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


I'm most worried about Sunak, he's a big fan of austerity plus and cutting every bit of public spending he can get his hands on. No action under climate change under him, for certain.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Objectively cool.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1545738149908942851?s=19

Looks like the Corbyn tweets sank him before he began.

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

There aren't enough Boris loyalists left to get her past the first round, unfortunately. PM Dorries is exactly what this country deserves, IMO.

PM Braverman would be almost as funny, though, and she's in with an outside shot since she has the ERG behind her and is sufficiently psychotic to win over the membership.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Nothingtoseehere posted:

I'm most worried about Sunak, he's a big fan of austerity plus and cutting every bit of public spending he can get his hands on. No action under climate change under him, for certain.

It’d be a weird one because he’s desperate to wield the axe and chat about the deficit but the general public is not in the mood for austerity, at all. Boris was actually correct about that.

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

Sunak would basically be a return to Cameron/Osbourne competently destructive evil, except less popular. Doesn't mean he wouldn't beat Keith's Labour though, lol.

Barrel Cactaur
Oct 6, 2021

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/dwp-could-monitor-your-bank-24429526

(sorry, it's a Reach link so full of flashing whirly bits on the page).

2 months in to labor goverment: GOVERMENT SPENT OVER 100 MILLION TO CATCH 10K OF FRAUD.

these retrospective reviews inevitably get bogged down in the facts 1) that people who need benefits have complicated lives and fiances and 2) not all that much actual fraud usually occurs compared to the noise 1 generates. It likely wont even be set up to catch the most common kind of fraud, impersonation. I always love how they never get asked where they get their estimates for fraud, because its inevitably their rear end.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I'm not heightist but sunak cannot be allowed to be pm. It feels like he is deceptively short, what else is he hiding? can't be trusted.

I stan a short king, but Sunak gives short 'duplicitous courtier' vibes.

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Chinese Gordon posted:

Sunak would basically be a return to Cameron/Osbourne competently destructive evil, except less popular. Doesn't mean he wouldn't beat Keith's Labour though, lol.

He will get in, not do anything major until a GE, in which he will beat Starmer, and then enact public spending cuts so deep Cameron/Osborne would blush.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009


A thing of beauty. :thumbsup:

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/justwearmasks/status/1545513902389207042

:allears:

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them


lmao

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Nads to Follow Johnson in Top Job

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

https://twitter.com/MikeGapes/status/1545733055930929153

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Night Tories will have a really difficult job of shaking the Long Johnson off.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


https://twitter.com/JGerrings/status/1545489347700572164?t=ZYgPqI5Z9_Z_31275w7DoQ&s=19

Banter timeline is back on?

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jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I mean, nadine technically counts as "membership"

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