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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Baron von Eevl posted:

I appreciate when the lyrics are very on the nose in a slightly silly way. I'm thinking of Fire in Hot Fuzz or Red Right Hand in Hellboy.

Or Army of the Dead and a certain song by the Cranberries....

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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



flavor.flv posted:

I think this is a you thing

Eh... It is pretty cringe-inducing when the lyrics directly allude to what's happening on-screen.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Samovar posted:

Eh... It is pretty cringe-inducing when the lyrics directly allude to what's happening on-screen.

"Always" and "in a subset of situations" aren't the same thing.

Also, Umbrella Academy used "Order of Death" as music in season 2, so they're good forever in my book.

https://youtu.be/EnWsAUSgsJo

Barry Bluejeans
Feb 2, 2017

ATTENTHUN THITIZENTH

Samovar posted:

Eh... It is pretty cringe-inducing when the lyrics directly allude to what's happening on-screen.

this was my main memory of the Watchmen movie, using embarrassingly literal songs at every given opportunity

CordlessPen
Jan 8, 2004

I told you so...
The "Suicide Squad" (but not "The Suicide Squad") movie was also real bad about this IIRC.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




You can pry the soldiers sailing down a Vietnamese river in a swiftboat scene with Fortunate Son playing in the background out of my cold dead hands

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


I don't care if I'm wrong the Metallica scene in Stranger Things was great

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Samovar posted:

Eh... It is pretty cringe-inducing when the lyrics directly allude to what's happening on-screen.

I saw a trailer for Licorice Pizza in the theater and got the impression that the entire movie was written so that they could use Life on Mars? in the trailer and have it be way too on the nose

Kwanzaa Quickie
Nov 4, 2009

Len posted:

I don't care if I'm wrong the Metallica scene in Stranger Things was great

That and Fury Road have convinced me that if they just put a dude playing guitar in a scene, it’ll be awesome, regardless of context.

BiggestOrangeTree
May 19, 2008

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Wait - was it Woodkid's Run Boy Run? poo poo, didn't even notice that and I love that song.

When did it play?

Beginning of the second episode, when the run boy runs away.

flavor.flv posted:

You can pry the soldiers sailing down a Vietnamese river in a swiftboat scene with Fortunate Son playing in the background out of my cold dead hands

Okay we can keep those.

CordlessPen posted:

The "Suicide Squad" (but not "The Suicide Squad") movie was also real bad about this IIRC.

I lost count after like 10 songs in just the first act where every character gets a music video introducing them

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

flavor.flv posted:

You can pry the soldiers sailing down a Vietnamese river in a swiftboat scene with Fortunate Son playing in the background out of my cold dead hands

The boat mission in cod blops was off putting because the music started playing and my brain shorted out and went "wait, that's not CCR"

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I usually don't care that much about using licensed songs in media but I can't loving stand it when they chop it up and gently caress up the song so they can fit the opening and the chorus into a 15 second scene

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Improbable Lobster posted:

I usually don't care that much about using licensed songs in media but I can't loving stand it when they chop it up and gently caress up the song so they can fit the opening and the chorus into a 15 second scene

I hate when the song isn't *for* anything.

In Aquaman, there's a scene where the bad guy is doing something, he's by himself in a room, and Depeche Mode's "It's No Good" pops up on the soundtrack. For like 5 seconds, and then it stops.

What was the point? The scene isn't one that demands a pop music soundtrack, and it's even non-diagetic so it's not like it's telling us "Black Manta likes 80s synthpop." It's licensing a song because, what, you're too lazy to write your own compelling background music?

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Barry Bluejeans posted:

this was my main memory of the Watchmen movie, using embarrassingly literal songs at every given opportunity

A some of them are in the graphic novel at least, the Dylan ones and Night and Day(?)

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

CordlessPen posted:

The "Suicide Squad" (but not "The Suicide Squad") movie was also real bad about this IIRC.

They showed a jail in New Orleans and House of the Rising Sun played because it has the words "New Orleans" in it.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Torquemada posted:

A some of them are in the graphic novel at least, the Dylan ones and Night and Day(?)

Using "two riders were approaching...the wind began to howl" as the ending quote for the issue in which two riders approach through the howling wind is so on the nose and stupid, but I love it.

My IIMM with the Watchmen music isn't the Hallelujah scene. It's that they removed the ironic background commentary on the TV during Nite Owls erectile dysfunction episode, and also stripped out his psychosexual nightmares. Which means 90% of viewers are gonna take the Hallelujah scene as serious and cringe-worthy, instead of it being the funniest poo poo ever

Barry Bluejeans
Feb 2, 2017

ATTENTHUN THITIZENTH

Strom Cuzewon posted:

My IIMM with the Watchmen music isn't the Hallelujah scene. It's that they removed the ironic background commentary on the TV during Nite Owls erectile dysfunction episode, and also stripped out his psychosexual nightmares. Which means 90% of viewers are gonna take the Hallelujah scene as serious and cringe-worthy, instead of it being the funniest poo poo ever

I've heard there was a secret chord
That gave Christ wood, and it pleased the lord
But you don't really care for boners, do you?

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Or Army of the Dead and a certain song by the Cranberries....

That was I thought well executed in 28 Days Later, since it was only instrumental. It was a kind of cheesy nod, but the music lent itself to the scene really well, even if it wasn't called Zombie.

BiggestOrangeTree
May 19, 2008
Speaking of diegetic/non diegetic music that loving scene in Captain Marvel where the song starts playing and then she kicks a bad guy against a juke box, and you just know that they originally meant for that juke box to play a song after that, but they decided against it at some point but still left the song and juke box in the scene.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Phanatic posted:

I hate when the song isn't *for* anything.

In Aquaman, there's a scene where the bad guy is doing something, he's by himself in a room, and Depeche Mode's "It's No Good" pops up on the soundtrack. For like 5 seconds, and then it stops.

What was the point? The scene isn't one that demands a pop music soundtrack, and it's even non-diagetic so it's not like it's telling us "Black Manta likes 80s synthpop." It's licensing a song because, what, you're too lazy to write your own compelling background music?
I never saw it, but I wanted to look it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIRIk8_AJE

I'm guessing besides the general groove, they like the lyrics. Apparently the song is about a crush, but in context its a bad guy sayin "I gonna get u, it is written, u cant hide" :shrug:

quote:

I'm gonna take my time
I have all the time in the world
To make you mine
It is written in the stars above
The gods decree
You'll be right here by my side
Right next to me
You can run but you cannot hide

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Baron von Eevl posted:

I appreciate when the lyrics are very on the nose in a slightly silly way. I'm thinking of Fire in Hot Fuzz or Red Right Hand in Hellboy.

Nothing like Exit Music (for a film) showing up in a movie for the nth time.

But drat I still like it in spite of that.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Phanatic posted:

I hate when the song isn't *for* anything.

In Aquaman, there's a scene where the bad guy is doing something, he's by himself in a room, and Depeche Mode's "It's No Good" pops up on the soundtrack. For like 5 seconds, and then it stops.

What was the point? The scene isn't one that demands a pop music soundtrack, and it's even non-diagetic so it's not like it's telling us "Black Manta likes 80s synthpop." It's licensing a song because, what, you're too lazy to write your own compelling background music?

That would distract me from the movie while I tried to identify it. Which, with Aquaman would have been nice if I'd noticed.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Len posted:

I don't care if I'm wrong the Metallica scene in Stranger Things was great

If thinking this scene is amazing is wrong, then I don't want to be right. RIP Eddie

Mamkute
Sep 2, 2018
Naruto Episode 69: How does that ANBU member get a job as a ninja in the Leaf Village and not know who the 1st and 2nd Hokage are?

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
If I see one more movie use Sympathy For the Devil or Where Is My Mind god dammit those songs are no longer allowed

off the table

enough already

El Fideo
Jun 10, 2016

I trusted a rhino and deserve all that came to me


No more Perfect Day by Lou Reed, either. Doom Patrol was the peak of that song, everyone else should let it rest a while.

BiggestOrangeTree
May 19, 2008

credburn posted:

If I see one more movie use Sympathy For the Devil or Where Is My Mind god dammit those songs are no longer allowed

off the table

enough already

Can they still play Sweet Dreams so the audience knows the female lead has been abused

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Where Evil Grows in Sonic the Hedgehog was perfectly on point.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Phanatic posted:

I hate when the song isn't *for* anything.

In Aquaman, there's a scene where the bad guy is doing something, he's by himself in a room, and Depeche Mode's "It's No Good" pops up on the soundtrack. For like 5 seconds, and then it stops.

What was the point? The scene isn't one that demands a pop music soundtrack, and it's even non-diagetic so it's not like it's telling us "Black Manta likes 80s synthpop." It's licensing a song because, what, you're too lazy to write your own compelling background music?

Diegetic music can be worse. Like the old "song on the soundtrack is playing on the car radio" in a driving scene thing, where they indicate that this is the case by putting filters on the music in an external shot and removing them when the door opens. This is frequently crap because when do you not turn off the radio before getting out of the car, but it's especially crap in Species because the car was a convertible with the top down.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




credburn posted:

If I see one more movie use Sympathy For the Devil or Where Is My Mind god dammit those songs are no longer allowed

off the table

enough already

Also, the Man Comes Around.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
Hallelujah was absolutely run into the ground in the mid '10s.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
My favourite little playing around with music was in the casino episode of What We Do in the Shadows, where excitable vampire Laszlo (played by the sublime Matt Berry) is all hyped up and plays into the opening credits by starting the theme song on the piano. But that isn't quite the same because I suppose you could say that 'You're Dead' is the theme song of the 'documentary' in-universe. Also it's a silly comedy.

e: he also explicitly is the composer of some of the incidental music they use, which is fun

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Armacham posted:

If thinking this scene is amazing is wrong, then I don't want to be right. RIP Eddie

Eddie should have got to live :colbert:

He's a better character than Barb ever was and there's nobody going JUSTICE FOR EDDIE except Dustin

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Mamkute posted:

Naruto Episode 69: How does that ANBU member get a job as a ninja in the Leaf Village and not know who the 1st and 2nd Hokage are?

Except for named former members, like Kakashi and Itachi, the ANBU are never shown actually being competent.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune
Titling a docuseries about ultracapitalist dickhead crypto bros "The Anarchists" is extremely irritating, to me.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Armacham posted:

If thinking this scene is amazing is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

I liked it a lot but I couldn’t help thinking I’d have liked it more if it had been Slayer.

Jedit posted:

Diegetic music can be worse. Like the old "song on the soundtrack is playing on the car radio" in a driving scene thing, where they indicate that this is the case by putting filters on the music in an external shot and removing them when the door opens. This is frequently crap because when do you not turn off the radio before getting out of the car,

Agreed, but: you turn your radio off before you get out of the car?

Worst use of diegetic for me is in Gone in 60 Seconds where they have this ritual where they listen to Low Rider by War before they go out and steal cars. Except because the movie can't just sit there for 3 minutes and 11 seconds while the characters listen to this song, Nic Cage just abruptly cuts it off after a few seconds. It'd have been okay if they just switched it to non-diegetic and got on with the story, but they just stop it and it's (a) jarring as gently caress and (b) what was the point? It's like you wanted to establish this cool funky car-stealing mood, but then you just rug-pulled before you did it.




Edit: Watched Mission Impossible: Fallout the other day. Okay, the masks that magically change not only peoples' faces but also their voice, height, weight, and gait are a rationally irritating moment, and I think JJ Abrams insisted on random light bars all over the place, but aside from that: Lark's this incredibly careful mastermind, but early in the mission he jumps into a lightning storm and almost loving dies. Pretty dumb move!

Phanatic has a new favorite as of 18:14 on Jul 12, 2022

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Phanatic posted:


Edit: Watched Mission Impossible: Fallout the other day. Okay, the masks that magically change not only peoples' faces but also their voice, height, weight, and gait are a rationally irritating moment

Well everytime Tom cruise used a disguise there’d be quite a height difference…actually that would be hilarious.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Breetai posted:

Hallelujah was absolutely run into the ground in the mid '10s.

That one at least had the benefit of absolutely not being on the nose.

Darn point missers.

liquidypoo
Aug 23, 2006

Chew on that... you overgrown son of a bitch.

The diagetic car radio thing is weird since all cars handle their radios differently. My old Ford Escape would keep playing the radio after I cut the engine, and would shut it off when I opened the door. My current roommate's car cuts off the radio as soon as you kill the engine. I could see it being an irrationally irritating movie moment if you're used to how your car works

e: now that I'm not sitting in the break room at work, I can see I didn't read the irritation right. Yeah, that poo poo doesn't make sense unless they clearly left the engine on

liquidypoo has a new favorite as of 01:56 on Jul 13, 2022

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Phanatic posted:


Edit: Watched Mission Impossible: Fallout the other day. Okay, the masks that magically change not only peoples' faces but also their voice, height, weight, and gait are a rationally irritating moment, and I think JJ Abrams insisted on random light bars all over the place, but aside from that: Lark's this incredibly careful mastermind, but early in the mission he jumps into a lightning storm and almost loving dies. Pretty dumb move!

Voices are supposed to be taken care of by throat mikes but I think it is one of those things that gets kind of glossed over after the first couple of movies showing it. The first movie kind of did it best with the masks because outside of the ending all the times where Tom Cruise was pretending to be someone else it was just Tom Cruise in make up.

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