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There's also the spiteful part of me that would want to waste all their time with performative stunts. Edit, page snipe: this is in reference to some bigoted rear end in a top hat private school that larches applied to
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If it were a company that would be Glassdoor Review Time
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Jul 12, 2022 15:47
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ConfusedUs posted:Steps you could take without breaking the bank: Really hope you don't have to ever deal with that issue again, you're amazing and we're all rooting for you!
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Jul 12, 2022 16:05
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ConfusedUs posted:Steps you could take without breaking the bank: Yeah, call those assholes out on it if you've got the mental/emotional bandwidth to do so.
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Jul 12, 2022 16:54
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Just be careful and state the facts - I'm sure we all know 100% what's gone on here but if you draw the conclusion and say that, you could end up with the school providing evidence that they had someone lined up who withdrew their application between your two applications and then getting lawyers involved. Let the reader figure it out.
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Jul 12, 2022 17:02
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Extra illegal in Colorado, where being trans is a protected class. You don't really need to engage financially, there are plenty of orgs that will eagerly help
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Jul 12, 2022 17:06
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larchesdanrew posted:Spoilered for whining about gender in tech stuff. This makes me so angry. I'm angry for you. And sorry you're experiencing this poo poo. Also, don't feel like you need to spoiler stuff for "whining" about gender in tech. It's not whining and it's important. Unless of course you want to spoiler for reasons.
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Internet Explorer posted:This makes me so angry. I'm angry for you. And sorry you're experiencing this poo poo. heh for a second I forgot that's what larches had written before the main post and thought you were summarizing her post and was like "hold the gently caress up, it should not be dismissed as whining". Internet Explorer posted:It's not whining and it's important.  
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Jul 12, 2022 19:11
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Scene: Larches' resume comes across the desk of the Personnel Director And Also Volleyball Coach. The director's hand reaches towards it, but another hand reaches out of frame to snatch it away. Director: "Hey hold on, what are you doing?" The nameless silhouette behind semi opaque glass chuckles darkly, and walks out. You can barely hear the murmur as they exit: "That's none of your concern"
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Jul 12, 2022 19:33
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larchesdanrew posted:Spoilered for whining about gender in tech stuff. Show up to the interview anyway. Play dumb if they ask about the bait and switch. Read back parts of their diversity and inclusivity statement off their website if they get lovely at you. Might as well waste their time and rub their noses in it.
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Jul 12, 2022 19:53
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Show up to the interview anyway. Play dumb if they ask about the bait and switch. Read back parts of their diversity and inclusivity statement off their website if they get lovely at you. Might as well waste their time and rub their noses in it. This is exactly what I meant by performative stunts at the top of the page.
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Jul 12, 2022 20:17
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Welcome to being a woman in IT. Sorry but it sucks, and you will run into this kind of thing all the time. I realize it sounds very defeatist but pursuing some kind of pseudo legal action against this place isn't worth your time/energy/emotional bandwidth because it probably won't change a goddamn thing!! Leaving a public review somewhere is of course also fraught with danger, considering the place has all your contact info and job history. I've been in this position and in the end I did...nothing because I was too worried about being blacklisted. When I got desperate at one point years and years ago I considered using a common masculine form of my first name on my resume because I was convinced that is what wasn't getting me in the door but I couldn't bring myself to do it knowing anywhere that took fake me over real me wasn't a place I wanted to work anyway.
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Jul 13, 2022 15:35
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It's still really bad out there across the board. I'm sure it's way worse in Larches' arena, but I also see the racist element as well. Friend of mine applied for a job he was perfectly qualified for. Got the same type of response with the same type of circumstances. Reworked his resume in look, but the same information, and anglicized his name. Got an immediate callback. I also hope you have the bandwidth to at least do some complaint filing, because bullshit like that should be called out at minimum.
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Jul 13, 2022 18:54
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Yeah, its pretty lovely and there's no excuse for it. Our industry has improved quite a bit on this front over the years but still has a long ways to go. All of us that are able to benefit from systemic privilege need to speak out whenever possible. Make sure things like what happened to larches and others can't get swept under the rug. Being silent is being complicit.
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Pretend I posted this in the right placeSirotan posted:At the very least I recommend naming and shaming in this thread.
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*ignore, wrong thread.
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i recently left my job of seven years at a private, religious school, partially due to transgendery but also because i was just sick of working there. i came out when i resigned and they were very gracious about it, but the hr lady also said that they were grateful i resigned because staying on would have put them in "a difficult position," which i took to mean they would have been pressured by bigoted parents and possibly donors not to allow a gender person around their kids, and we all know what side the finance department's bread is buttered on. the bostock decision has exemptions for religious employers and i'm not sure whether i would be covered by it, and if i didn't have an offer in hand it might have been fun to see how it shook out in court. as it is i'm glad to be gone though. i work for the public library now and it rules. i actually feel celebrated and supported rather than merely tolerated, and i bet larches can find something just as good
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Jul 14, 2022 17:05
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libraries are awesome and I'm glad everything shook out ok for you sucks that this is a thing that happens to anyone
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Seriously. It makes me so angry. We still have so much work to do.
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It does have one perk, tho its drying up. Makes annoying recruiters go away surprisingly quick when you just correct the name/gender they address you as. Particularly when I do it is a hyper masculine voice, tho thats getting harder as I fall out of practice
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Internet Explorer posted:Seriously. It makes me so angry. We still have so much work to do. yeah it stinks!! especially since we (trans people and women especially) are like, one of the current Types of (figurative) Guys that everyone likes to argue about and get mad at right now. i hope no trans employment cases go before the Supreme Court anytime soon because it seems 50/50 whether it’ll end up with a ruling that says trans people don’t actually have to be paid at all
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Weedle posted:yeah it stinks!! especially since we (trans people and women especially) are like, one of the current Types of (figurative) Guys that everyone likes to argue about and get mad at right now. i hope no trans employment cases go before the Supreme Court anytime soon because it seems 50/50 whether it’ll end up with a ruling that says trans people don’t actually have to be paid at all uhhhhhh I feel like with this particular shitpile of a supreme court the case that would be brought would be more like deciding whether trans people are legally people.  Saw this morning that the five judges got doxxed, and y'know, doxxing is very bad and you should never do it and blah blah but my immediate thought was "GOOD, maybe they'll learn how valuable privacy is". (they won't but they still deserve it for being absolute dickfaces)
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SyNack Sassimov posted:uhhhhhh The person who doxxed them was a 14 year old kid. It's started a whole discussion about how do you handle that if you are a parent. And the leading answers seem to be take them to Disneyland or other theme park.
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Jul 14, 2022 23:41
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Ice-cream seems like a good first step.
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Thomamelas posted:how do you handle that if you are a parent teach them how not to get caught
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Thomamelas posted:how do you handle that if you are a parent  Fake edit: At the staff meeting yesterday my supervisor gave a big presentation on improvements to the service desk that are planned. It was word for word for word for word exactly what my proposal was the other day. Down to the metaphors. "I think those are great ideas" "This is really gonna improve things" "Excellent work, [supervisor]" I then had a meeting with the owner regarding my compensation (which didn't increase when I got promoted, if you'll remember). Best he can offer is 4%. I argued for half an hour but hes not budging. I told him I'd consider it, sent in a PTO form for all of next week, signed off my remote terminal, and turned off my computer. I'm taking next week off. I'm likely not going back. A Frosty Witch fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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That's brazen poo poo and that sort of cliquey environment at a company is never going away, if you're an outsider then your ideas will always be trash. gently caress em, their loss.
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I work in the opposite environment, if you've been there longer than the CEO (5 years) then you don't have new ideas and you're trash. Only new people can come up with good ideas.
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GreenNight posted:I work in the opposite environment, if you've been there longer than the CEO (5 years) then you don't have new ideas and you're trash. Only new people can come up with good ideas. Ie: he only actually trusts people he hired. Anyone he didn't hire is automatically suspect Betcha he would treat employees who were brought in through an acquisition similarly
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larchesdanrew posted:It was word for word for word for word exactly what my proposal was the other day. Down to the metaphors.
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I haven't slept in almost 48 hours I'm not thinking straight. I'm gonna take a break
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Jul 15, 2022 21:30
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Good luck. After all that bullshit, I'd keep looking regardless of what they offer. It's just business, even if you offer your resignation three weeks after accepting the bump.
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I'd paraphrase your chat log enough so that anybody pasting entire extracts from Teams into Google doesn't find you, but what you're asking for is completely reasonable.
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Thanks Ants posted:I'd paraphrase your chat log enough so that anybody pasting entire extracts from Teams into Google doesn't find you. Oh that's paraphrased from a much longer discussion, don't worry.
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That's infuriating. Did you call them out on that poo poo? I hope you can get some rest and get your head back in the career game.
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I'm sorry larches, but after this stretch you will come out even better, I'm sure of it. We all saw it last time with the CE and we will see it again eventually.
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SyNack Sassimov posted:uhhhhhh That's basically what I was going to say. Given that I know (and know of, thanks to SA) several trans folks, and one has been a friend since before their transition, not to mention my own kid being Ace, this is a subject I have Strong Opinions about. quote:Saw this morning that the five judges got doxxed, and y'know, doxxing is very bad and you should never do it and blah blah but my immediate thought was "GOOD, maybe they'll learn how valuable privacy is".  Sometimes you have to break the rules to make a point. larchesdanrew posted:
What in the actual gently caress? Yeah, if you can afford to do so, GTFO. That's just... I have no words. Thanks Ants posted:That's brazen poo poo and that sort of cliquey environment at a company is never going away, if you're an outsider then your ideas will always be trash. There's some words. Those will do. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this bullshit.
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Thanks for the support y'all. I've got one last hail Mary get hosed meeting with my supervisor and the owner tomorrow afternoon. If it doesn't go my way, I'll be staying in my lane and rapid firing my resume to anyone who will take it. If it does go my way, I'll be staying in my lane and rapid firing my resume to anyone who will take it, but I'll be making slightly more money while I do it.
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holy gently caress I feel like I've really lost it or something. I've got a user that is moving from one company to another, and they want to bring their emails/contacts etc with, the companies are separate domains and separate O365 tenants. I've exported to PST the stuff from the old company, isn't there a way to import this to the mailbox for new company? User has a mac and the options are different, but I could have sworn there was a way to merge that stuff into the new mailbox. The big thing is the user wants the stuff available on their phone versus just on the Mac.
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MF_James posted:holy gently caress I feel like I've really lost it or something. Are you an administrator of both tenants? Bittitan is the only sane solution. Anything else is so time consuming and stupid that you are better off saying no and dealing with the consequences of no.
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