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I also just read it and "give people money, not food, so they can choose stuff" just sounds like more loving market worshipping horseshit. Like this quote:So I can understand why we’re seeing campaigns for a ‘right to food’, from unions and pressure groups alike. But there’s a note of caution to sound. As our membership cards remind us all, democratic socialism is about power, wealth and opportunity. As Shadow Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson once put it, it would be “totally inadequate – the reverse of our socialism – to live in a society where many of us had jobs, sufficient food, warm houses, free hot meals for our kids, and free sanitary products, but didn’t have money to spend as we saw fit on anything else. Equality in a free society is about power, not goods”. Yeah great mate lots of loving power your lot have given us right, wonder why people might be campaigning for enough food to eat, wonder who might have been responsible for that. A society where I'm still skint but I have food and shelter guaranteed sounds a lot loving better than this one. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jul 12, 2022 |
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Noxville posted:Absolute state of the Labour Party, christ
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OwlFancier posted:I also just read it and "give people money, not food, so they can choose stuff" just sounds like more loving market worshipping horseshit. It's not socialism if there's no treats!
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Of course as we know if you remove the costs of food and shelter all that money just magically disappears.
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It's like If You Give A Mouse A Cookie for cunts.
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Julio Cruz posted:Badenoch, Braverman, Hunt, Mordaunt, Sunak, Truss, Tugendhat and Zahawi the trumpton fire reserve
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Julio Cruz posted:Badenoch, Braverman, Hunt, Mordaunt, Sunak, Truss, Tugendhat and Zahawi Did you know that sunak backwards is "k anus". But wait, theres more... Tug end hat. Seriously. E: that's it. All I got. It's so loving bleak i can't even shitpost about it any more.
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kecske posted:the trumpton fire reserve Are they scabbing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZxkErDC16A
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Julio Cruz posted:Badenoch, Braverman, Hunt, Mordaunt, Sunak, Truss, Tugendhat and Zahawi You can't just read the Necronomicon out loud like this!
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i think ensuring people aren't going hungry is a good start and more ambitious aims can come later but i'm not a clever professional sensible keith labour party politician so what does old crispix know
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are you a banenoch dude to become pm
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Boris will return.
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some nonce probably posted:it would be totally inadequate – the reverse of our socialism – to live in a society where many of us had jobs, sufficient food, warm houses, free hot meals for our kids, and free sanitary products Labour platform looking good
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Anyone know why tweets on the forum aren’t embedding for me any more?
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OwlFancier posted:I also just read it and "give people money, not food, so they can choose stuff" just sounds like more loving market worshipping horseshit. Maybe but i recall this thread previously reaching a consensus* on how you should donate to the homeless: don't give them sandwiches but give them money, even if you know they might spend it on drugs/alcohol, because giving them sandwiches is very paternalistic and condescending *I may be wrong about the consensus but there were some persuasive voices
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Maybe but i recall this thread previously reaching a consensus* on how you should donate to the homeless: don't give them sandwiches but give them money, even if you know they might spend it on drugs/alcohol, because giving them sandwiches is very paternalistic and condescending Iirc the conclusion was to ask if they wanted a sandwich first, then it’s not condescending if they’re like “yeah definitely, chicken and stuffing please”
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Halisnacks posted:So, how is a leftist who cares about identity politics supposed to feel that of the eight Conservative leadership contenders, only two are white men? quote:'How is your luck?' said Ahmed.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Maybe but i recall this thread previously reaching a consensus* on how you should donate to the homeless: don't give them sandwiches but give them money, even if you know they might spend it on drugs/alcohol, because giving them sandwiches is very paternalistic and condescending On an individual level, sure, but I don't think that money is a solution to societal precarity, any more than it is a solution to say, societal healthcare. At some point you can't just rely on everyone having jobs and cash to buy what they need, but rather you need to actually look at making food and shelter and all that actually secure. Especially coming from a political organization that had control of the government for a decade+ and didn't do gently caress all to stop the slide into precarity during that time and absolutely failed to build anything lasting beyond it other than loving student debt and PFI contracts. When a proponent of that political persuasion tells me "actually money will solve the problem" I think they're an idiot, because money doesn't buy long term security for anyone except the generationally wealthy and he sure as poo poo isn't gonna make us into that. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Let's have a look and see what this phil wilson guy is aboutquote:The son of a Fishburn colliery worker, Wilson has lived in the Sedgefield constituency all of his life.[4] After attending Trimdon Secondary Modern and Sedgefield Comprehensive School, Wilson became a shop assistant before moving on to be a clerical worker in the civil service where he was a lay-trade union official.[4] Wilson later worked as a gambling lobbyist for the Gala Coral Group in the lead up to the passing of the 2005 Gambling Act, and as a director at London based public affairs consultancy Fellows’ Associates.[6] Cannot imagine why this guy would dislike the idea of guaranteeing people's food security.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Anyone know why tweets on the forum aren’t embedding for me any more? APPENS WEN U BIN WANKIN 2 MUCH 
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Comrade Fakename posted:Anyone know why tweets on the forum aren’t embedding for me any more? Do they embed eventually or not at all?
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Tesseraction posted:Do they embed eventually or not at all? Nah, they just stay as links. I’m on an iPad if that makes any difference. I’ll check on a PC tomorrow.
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Tesseraction posted:Do they embed eventually or not at all? They've been turned off due to a bug. They will be back on once the bug's fixed.
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Fuctifino is cool and good and helped both my wife and I get prescriptions for medicinal cannabis which has massively changed our lives for the better and reduce both our meds and anxiety. Much love. We've also in turn helped at least 5 more people also get it. Huzzah!
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/12/labour-to-pledge-ironclad-discipline-with-public-finances?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Strict borrowing limits, ironclad discipline, reduce the national debt. Austerity is good again aroouuuu (wolf howl)
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sebzilla posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/12/labour-to-pledge-ironclad-discipline-with-public-finances?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other They might raise corporation tax to pay for it all though! Oh look! A flying pig!
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https://twitter.com/EuanPhilipps/status/1546948389211971593 lol the "It's just for my taxes" faction have come into contact with the True Believers.
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sebzilla posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/12/labour-to-pledge-ironclad-discipline-with-public-finances?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Well, since Labour aren't going to be in power at least until Prime Minister insert-awooga-copypasta-here Mordaunt is done in eleven or twelve years or so, they can say what they like. Amusing list of leadership promises from the shower of cunts, all of which can be appended with some variant of "...because of the predictable disaster my party's existing policies caused, and will not change." 
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"Time for renewal" is romantic proto-fascism. "Unity, prosperity, and security" sounds more like the kind of slogan that was rejected by fascists for being too dull. Truss is going to try to literally galvanize the economy by zinc plating over the rust. In more positive news there's a mass nonpayment strike brewing for October. 
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I think it was the FT that had an article saying the Tories always get voted in for promising to save the country from the terrible state the Tories have left it in. E: in international news, here in China: 1) Shanghai employers have been blanket refusing to hire anyone who has **ever** had a positive COVID test; some of the poorest workers have been reduced to camping out in public toilets. 2) Our great leader who is up for re-selection in October has a new slogan: “一个国家一个政党一个领袖” (One Nation, One Party, One Leader). Some policy ideas there for the Tory hopefuls I guess Beefeater1980 fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Deketh posted:Yeah ragwort is bad for horses but supposedly also bad for people to handle without gloves. There's a ton of it growing out of the pavement edges round here Horses and cattle, but if it's not near any of those let it be. And yeah, the danger for horses is when it's dry and either laying around or has found its way into the hay supply. Iirc it's a build up type poison rather than eat a ragwort and die type poison.
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Guavanaut posted:"Unity, prosperity, and security" sounds more like the kind of slogan that was rejected by fascists for being too dull. 
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Anyone else can't help reading this like it's the lyrics to a Boston hardcore song, and the names in brackets are the gang vocals. TUGENDHAT!!! 
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Beefeater1980 posted:
That's a pretty stunning misunderstanding of viruses, immunity, and perverse incentives in the labour market. But totally congruent with some of the confusing dumbassery I experienced in Shanghai
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Failed Imagineer posted:Anyone else can't help reading this like it's the lyrics to a Boston hardcore song, and the names in brackets are the gang vocals. Well I wasn't but I am now thanks. Although thinking more NYHC than Boston, poo poo like Madball & Agnostic Front
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forkboy84 posted:Well I wasn't but I am now thanks. Although thinking more NYHC than Boston, poo poo like Madball & Agnostic Front Good shout, I was actually audiating H2O in my mind, so it's more NYHC alright. E: Braverman are the metallic hardcore band that unexpectedly got the support slot on the Mordaunt black metal tour
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