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I always assume these performative neoliberal solutions (like bulletproof elementary school doors and glass, bulletproof backpacks, child size bulletproof vests) are pushed because all of the companies are ran by ex-cop ex-military types turned "security expert." It p much boils down to governments throwing more money at the (private) cops.
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ProperCoochie posted:I always assume these performative neoliberal solutions (like bulletproof elementary school doors and glass, bulletproof backpacks, child size bulletproof vests) are pushed because all of the companies are ran by ex-cop ex-military types turned "security expert." It p much boils down to governments throwing more money at the (private) cops. Yes and it can all be sold or heavily subsidized to other countries as 'defense'; something about a "military-industrial complex" or something, idk. Buy war bonds.
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ProperCoochie posted:I always assume these performative neoliberal solutions (like bulletproof elementary school doors and glass, bulletproof backpacks, child size bulletproof vests) are pushed because all of the companies are ran by ex-cop ex-military types turned "security expert." It p much boils down to governments throwing more money at the (private) cops. its more of a psychological thing, yeah the one off prototype soul snatcher is probably made by a ex cop and it will never get much past this one off media attention, but that attention is amplified and very soon no longer making the creator any money. But its then nationwide news also.
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I’m a librarian with an anxiety-riddled brain. I admit that I don’t truly know how I’d actually react in an active shooter situation. That being said I cannot comprehend hearing children screaming in terror and pain nearby and not feeling the immediate urge to sprint in that direction to see if I can do literally anything, much less just standing around doing actively and literally nothing. Like, "go help children in danger" seems like it would be a pretty immediate reaction for most folks. How in the hell do you even go about overriding what seems like a pretty basic instinct? The Uvalde PD seemed to take cowardice to a whole new level that I genuinely don’t understand. IBroughttheFunk fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Jul 13, 2022 15:57
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2022/07/13/north-carolina-little-league-baseball-game-gunfire-scare-livestream-newday-vpx.cnn The panic of the person video taping is hard to hear.
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Jul 13, 2022 16:01
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Klyith posted:Ok, today's our monthly active shooter drill, time to herd a classroom of kids into a dark confined metal box. I am sure this will have no long term psychological damage! I mean, DAC drills did wonders for the Baby Boomers: creating a generation of nihilists who expect to die at any moment is totally fine and has no long term impact on society or politics. 
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B B posted:https://twitter.com/Mike_Hixenbaugh/status/1547002751409872897 "oh absolutely, the media is evil" "what about the cops?" "look i'm not here to debate you." "the media is evil" "yes the media is evil" "why didn't the cops do their job?" "look, i can't sit here and talk to you all day" "the media is evil" "praise jesus the media is evil" "did the cops who-" "look we can sit here and argue all day, i'm not here to debate you" "the media is evil" "drat right the media is evil!"
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Jul 13, 2022 16:17
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I'm always curious why showing people what happened (assuming its not edited/forged) is so evil. My favorites were when Trump would soil himself over the media simply quoting him.
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Jul 13, 2022 16:29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUvm7GfB6zc THE BADGE MEANS YOU SUCK/KISS MY MACHINE 7" 1980
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Jul 13, 2022 16:33
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pro starcraft loser posted:I'm always curious why showing people what happened (assuming its not edited/forged) is so evil. I worked in a drug factory that made chemo drugs and was heavily regulated by as many drug regulation bodies as you can imagine, and literally never heard a single operator ever get defensive about reviewing video. Generally it was welcomed because video review was a bluff: People in management and higher, they got really defensive about reviewing video, especially when the video involved people taking phone calls for minutes at a time, getting animated, then doing something uncouth or against the rules under duress in a cleanroom. Especially when the operator was going to be asked why they proceeded against procedure, etc. Generally, they only did video review of stuff they already terminated someone for because any kind of deep dive would put all of them on a big stage.
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Mistle posted:Crowdfunding sites are the #1 payors of medical bills and invoices in the U.S. I wonder if there was a way to crowdfund a pool of money from all Americans, for urgent medical procedures or lifesaving drugs. Oh.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I wonder if there was a way to crowdfund a pool of money from all Americans, for urgent medical procedures or lifesaving drugs. That sounds dangerously like communism
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I wonder if there was a way to crowdfund a pool of money from all Americans, for urgent medical procedures or lifesaving drugs. Haahah
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I wonder if there was a way to crowdfund a pool of money from all Americans, for urgent medical procedures or lifesaving drugs. That's a lot of money better used to buy guns.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I wonder if there was a way to crowdfund a pool of money from all Americans, for urgent medical procedures or lifesaving drugs. That's the thing about National Socialism. Only the in-group receive benefits courtesy of everyone that doesn't. Small wonder it's popular among the right-wingers.
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Jul 13, 2022 20:17
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https://twitter.com/adicortez/status/1546995956125671425 https://twitter.com/SaintSluggo/status/1547032268744626176 I am seeing conflicting reports on whether "Punisher phone cop" is the same cop that was talking to/texting his dying wife.
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Read After Burning posted:
If it was you’d think he’d have even more reason to want to go in there.
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I don’t blame the cops for freezing up at first—it’s awful but a natural reaction. What I don’t understand is standing around for an hour, periodically hearing gunshots at random intervals and doing nothing for all that time. Also I don’t see why the families of the victims even want to see that video, much less why it’s so wrong they aren’t the first to see it.
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Jul 13, 2022 20:37
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Murdstone posted:I don’t blame the cops for freezing up at first—it’s awful but a natural reaction. What I don’t understand is standing around for an hour, periodically hearing gunshots at random intervals and doing nothing for all that time. It’s because cops are useless cowards OP
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Murdstone posted:I don’t blame the cops for freezing up at first—it’s awful but a natural reaction. What I don’t understand is standing around for an hour, periodically hearing gunshots at random intervals and doing nothing for all that time. They shouldn't be freezing up though. Their budget is in the millions and they receive "training" to handle poo poo like this. They're incompetent coward grifters.
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Murdstone posted:I don’t blame the cops for freezing up at first—it’s awful but a natural reaction. A lot of money is spent training to stop the "freezing up" up at first, I absolutely blame them for that. This country spends so much time sucking cop dick that these cowards start believing they can walk on water and the second they are placed in an actual difficult situation they run away. Even how they backed away from the gunfire was cowardly no one was trying to return fire or get a better angle or even cover the officers who were hit. It was just a rush to get away from danger as fast as possible. Just gonna repost this again. 
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^^^^ The cowardly 'woop woop woop' Zoidberg noises as they ran away have been removed from the video, tooRead After Burning posted:
Nah, the husband of the dying teacher was restrained, had his gun taken away and was escorted out, "lol" Zefiel fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Jul 13, 2022 20:52
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They shouldn't edit out the screams as horrible as it would be to hear I think it would be absolutely necessary and should be thrust into every gun loving poo poo heads face constantly
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https://twitter.com/punishedpope/status/1546999087165104129Murdstone posted:What I don’t understand is standing around for an hour, periodically hearing gunshots and children screaming at random intervals and doing nothing for all that time. FTFY  Zefiel posted:Nah, the husband of the dying teacher was restrained, had his gun taken away and was escorted out, "lol" Yup, I don't think Punisher dude and teacher husband are the same guy. Punisher Cop was wearing black and had a pistol, whereas there's a guy in brown (with a long gun) at the very end of the footage who is being held back by other cops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3poHE3nOb8&t=4852s However, I don't see Punisher Cop reappear later in the video, so maybe that is him, I dunno. 
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Guy that had his gun taken away reportedly showed up much later after his wife texted him. Punisher moron was there earlier
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Yeah, the last two minutes of the footage have a dude being held back (with increasing force) by other cops, and he definitely seems shaken up (keeps putting his hand to his mouth, etc). They're definitely trying to prevent him from going further down the hallway...the footage ends before we see more, though. Like, no poo poo someone is shaken up in this instance, but there's a visible level of "Oh gently caress no" the other cops don't have, combined with him being held back. Regardless of who that guy is, that part is very hard to watch.
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Murdstone posted:much less why it’s so wrong they aren’t the first to see it. really, if you think about it, if the media hadn't reported on the story you wouldn't be upset. why would the media go out of their way to upset you??
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Jul 13, 2022 21:17
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A statement from the mayor's office: "YERR YELLA!"
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The two cops who enter the school first run right down the hallway and seem to do exactly what they should. Then they stop. Then they wait. Then they wait. Then they get shot at. Then they run. All the while more and more show up and just kinda watch whats going on
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I’m just saying, Punisher once had a subplot where an anarchist, a modern day Nazi, and an insane priest all teamed up and copied his shtick. The subplot ended with him meeting them, and while he told the Nazi and priest to gently caress off on principle alone when they tried to invite him, he actually took the time to explain to the anarchist that the thing he took issue with wasn’t necessarily the ideological bent, but that he’d killed a poor maid with a stray bullet into an adjacent room while he was mowing down the suits at a corporate board meeting. And yet cops and their bootlickers still appropriated his symbol
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I'm catching up on the trump lol thread and coincidentally ran into this.
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I'm just gonna say it. I do not much care for the police
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Captain America is also a fascist. He punched Hitler in the face and he supports the carceral state and America apartheid. Punisher hangs people from trees. Cops like the idea of hanging people from trees. People who can't fight back.
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Guze posted:I'm just gonna say it. Reported
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The Bananana posted:Reported They can take a hike for all I care
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I'm the mom muzzle sweeping her son. Beefed Owl posted:They shouldn't edit out the screams as horrible as it would be to hear I think it would be absolutely necessary and should be thrust into every gun loving poo poo heads face constantly 
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reply still does not mean edit
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The Punisher origin story is that the dude lost his wife and TWO CHILDREN to mob crossfire. Maybe the cops were trying to bring their "hero " into being, much like that little dude orphaned after the parade shooting now has enough donated money to maybe become Batman down the road.
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You can explain the Punishers origin all you want but cops are single digit IQ smooth brains and all they know is "he shoot bad guy"
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Zefiel posted:The Punisher origin story is that the dude lost his wife and TWO CHILDREN to mob crossfire. Maybe the cops were trying to bring their "hero " into being, much like that little dude orphaned after the parade shooting now has enough donated money to maybe become Batman down the road. This theory is wrong because they tried really hard to kill Dorner.
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