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As someone who just finished the ARR tribes right before 6.1, it's a stark difference between the Sylph transport quests and the EW "take this box 20 feet over there" ones. 
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The sylph carrying/invisisbility missions were still a pita at high level, I just skipped them (along with the FATE missions (lol))
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Kazy posted:As someone who just finished the ARR tribes right before 6.1, it's a stark difference between the Sylph transport quests and the EW "take this box 20 feet over there" ones. I was thinking when I did those, they must have gotten a lot of complaints about the carrying quests since the new ones give you 2 minutes to carry it 20 feet. Either that or it just slipped through testing (which wouldn't surprise me given the other things they missed like the two same-named NPCs).
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Jul 13, 2022 17:12
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They should stop making DoL beast tribes because there's only 3 jobs and they are already piss easy to level so it's a complete waste. If they don't want to make combat quests then just make it so you can do it on combat jobs and the gathering quests just become click a glowie. It's basically the same thing anyway.
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Jul 13, 2022 17:14
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Vitamean posted:no I'm the one in the armor You're telling me that you're the big cat man as an RDM in that fending armor in this part of eorzea, localized entirely beside a lala who looks like your twitter avatar?
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Oxyclean posted:You're telling me that you're the big cat man "Yes." "May I see your nameplate?" "No."
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:They weren't bad, and learning how to stealth around things helped later in PotD and Eureka / Bozja. the sylph ones were pretty annoying with how dense that area is with enemies
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Warmachine posted:"Yes."
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Qwertycoatl posted:All the ARR beast tribes sucked, not just Ixal. The combat ones are only bearable now because you can do them while flying and high enough level that random mobs don't aggro you 'Fun' fact: the ARR beast tribes are the favorites for the crowd of edgelords that specifically wants to paint the WoL as the bad guy (I have never found consistent reasoning beyond being contrarian edgelords), because they're really easy to be completely willingly blind to the actual story of, and just read them as the WoL being a horrible monster for pay. Debatably it's not even that hard a read for the sahagin, because even the non-tempered sahagin are kinda psychopathic.
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Isn't the Sahagin tribal storyline "when we were monsters the Lominsans were monsters in kind and slaughtered our kids. This has to stop even if it means hamstringing our own people so they stop thinking they can win through being monsters."
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Bruceski posted:Isn't the Sahagin tribal storyline "when we were monsters the Lominsans were monsters in kind and slaughtered our kids. This has to stop even if it means hamstringing our own people so they stop thinking they can win through being monsters." Yeah I played through it recently and the Sahagin were pretty par for the course with the rest of them. If anything the Amal'jaa felt weirdest with ritually spraying defeated enemy Amal'jaa with torture water. (Which seemed to be... regular water. They really played up elemental aspecting a lot back then)
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Bruceski posted:Isn't the Sahagin tribal storyline "when we were monsters the Lominsans were monsters in kind and slaughtered our kids. This has to stop even if it means hamstringing our own people so they stop thinking they can win through being monsters." Yes, and that also carries through in later sahagin storylines. That doesn't really change that the sahagin are definitely the most violent and hostile of the beast tribes even at the best of times, and it comes through in their quests if, again, you're blind to the actual intent. The Encyclopedia Eorzea also confirms that they're unique in that they were the one tribe that didn't even need to be convinced to start doing human sacrifices to their god, because they were already doing it. The Ascians just taught them a method with results.
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CJ posted:They should stop making DoL beast tribes because there's only 3 jobs and they are already piss easy to level so it's a complete waste. If they don't want to make combat quests then just make it so you can do it on combat jobs and the gathering quests just become click a glowie. It's basically the same thing anyway.
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Jul 13, 2022 19:50
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yeah you gotta earn that level from 10 minutes of sastasha
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Robo Reagan posted:yeah you gotta earn that level from 10 minutes of sastasha unironically yes, multiplayer content has to be faster than solo content for getting exp or else the game will be very dead for anyone below level cap
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Robo Reagan posted:yeah you gotta earn that level from 10 minutes of sastasha Yes, this is how the roulette system works and how they keep all the lower level content active and populated for new players.
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Zomborgon posted:Yeah I played through it recently and the Sahagin were pretty par for the course with the rest of them. The Kojin also have a daily quest where you dump holy water on enemy Kojin. Based on their reactions I assume it's something very stinky
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CJ posted:They should stop making DoL beast tribes because there's only 3 jobs and they are already piss easy to level so it's a complete waste. If they don't want to make combat quests then just make it so you can do it on combat jobs and the gathering quests just become click a glowie. It's basically the same thing anyway. It's incredibly fast and easy to level basically everything now. Being kind of simple and repetitive and reductive isn't just a problem with the gathering beast tribes
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Jul 13, 2022 20:33
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Felt like half the kobold quests were "these other guys are making us look bad by actually doing something, go and sabotage/murder them"
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Jul 13, 2022 20:33
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FuturePastNow posted:The Kojin also have a daily quest where you dump holy water on enemy Kojin. Based on their reactions I assume it's something very stinky Not holy water, but something called “golden aspic”, whatever that is. Also the Kojin have you beat up misbehaving baby rays and force feed them bitter pellets.
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Jul 13, 2022 20:35
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Aspic itself is just a savory gelatin ("meat jelly") that can contain all kinds of things. There's probably one or two things that could provide a golden coloration, and certainly no shortage of terrible scents - being the Ruby Sea, rotting fish would be an easy addition, for one.
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I figured "golden" here implied old piss
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Did SE ever explain why there isn't a Hildibrand questline for Shadowbringers?
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iirc they basically just said they didnt have any good ideas for how it would work on the first and were kind of burned out on doing the quests in the first place.
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1stGear posted:Did SE ever explain why there isn't a Hildibrand questline for Shadowbringers? Burnout and time constraints E: Beat. While I'm here, what gatherer goes with Alchemist for Ishgard restoration? I've only done Weaver and Botanist helped me through with that.
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Awesome! posted:iirc they basically just said they didnt have any good ideas for how it would work on the first and were kind of burned out on doing the quests in the first place. It was that along with development resources being stretched razor thin post-Covid, much as was the case with there not being an Allied Tribe quest. I think it was a good decision: even as someone who finds Hildibrand genuinely hilarious, it's a kind of humor that can go stale without proper breathing room, and I definitely prefer the series to go out on a high note instead of spinning its wheels for another expansion until the conclusion. TheWorldsaStage posted:While I'm here, what gatherer goes with Alchemist for Ishgard restoration? I've only done Weaver and Botanist helped me through with that. BTN and MIN will get you all of the Restoration materials you need, although you can get the majority of them with Botanist and then fill in any gaps with MB purchases if they aren't too expensive in your DC cluster. Really, I'd check the prices before pounding away at too many nodes; I'm not usually one to recommend straight buying crafting mats off the MB, especially if you're not a max level gatherer already, but Restoration mats are usually pretty cheap and you'll need loads of them to level with. Vermain fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Burnout and time constraints Alchemy is a weird one. Lots of monster drops.some mining for ink recipes. occasional botany. It's all over
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Alchemist mostly likes monster drops, rather than mining or botany or fishing, which is a little frustrating if you don't have a combat retainer.
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Ishgard Restoration recipes for Alchemist are, fortunately, pretty lenient on monster drops. The two big stumbling blocks are Bear Fat (which you either need to send a combat retainer out or farm from the Forelands) and Cubus Flesh, but the latter, for a mercy, can be bought relatively cheaply for Gemstones if you've been saving them up at all.
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Specifically for Ishgard Restoration Alchemist needs Skybuilders' stuff from both mining and botany. For example the level 60 one needs 5 mistletoe (botany), 5 spring water (mined), and 5 toad (...botany I believe). Looks like it needs a bit more botany than mining in general.
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Awesome. Right now I just need miner for the lvl 20 turnins, and I can get acidic secretions from low level retainer hunts. Glad to hear botany will be necessary too.
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The Namazu own
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It's interesting to contrast with the moogles. Their ability to actually emote adds a whole lot to their antics, and the animation team used it well on some faces.
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gtrmp posted:The level 80+ I predict that it will also be extremely cute and good
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Qwertycoatl posted:Felt like half the kobold quests were "these other guys are making us look bad by actually doing something, go and sabotage/murder them" The Kobold tribe story is about state sponsored domestic terrorism
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it's okay because they stole his girlfriend
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FuturePastNow posted:The Kobold tribe story is about state sponsored domestic terrorism It is incredibly generous to call Fuckup Village over there a "state".
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Bruceski posted:
Wasshoi.
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