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Tighclops posted:Drydocks are when the ships float in space with scaffolding around them The scaffolding is still wooden, though, and workmen sit on precarious edges eating their lunch.
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Mozi posted:my space dock brings all the ships to the yard
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Lmao I didn't expect this anime energy beam tug of war poo poo
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that's why ds9 is the best
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Profit and Lace is beyond wild lmao
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Ousted Ferengi leader calls upon you to change sex to help regain power is some peak Ferengi debauchery. I love it.
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All the Ferengi centric episodes of DS9 are really good especially if Brunt shows up
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Liquidator Brunt. What an amazing title. If you think about it, it's actually pretty neat that the folks in charge of Trek at the time were able to do such a good reverse course on the Ferengi as a species from the mealy mouthed threat of early TNG. When did it happen exactly? Was it all DS9? I can't recall any later TNG episodes featuring them.
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the ferengi popped up quite often in tng. there was the wormhole, the age regression, bev's murder mystery, etc. oh, and who can forget picard's sex tourist adventure?
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the ferengi popped up quite often in tng. there was the wormhole, the age regression, bev's murder mystery, etc. oh, and who can forget picard's sex tourist adventure? drat you're right. I've memory holed almost all of those. I'd categorize the age regression one as early "violent enemy" Ferengi. Or do they talk about selling the ship or something? Maybe it's borderline...
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They were a lot more like rear end in a top hat capitalist bandits in TNG rather than just rear end in a top hat capitalists as in DS9.
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I'd like a Voyager sequel where we find out all the Hirogen we met were just rich children who had nothing better to do than hunt for sport and that the majority of the species is like extremely good at iron chef style kitchen competitions.
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External Organs posted:drat you're right. I've memory holed almost all of those. I'd categorize the age regression one as early "violent enemy" Ferengi. Or do they talk about selling the ship or something? Maybe it's borderline... they seized the ship through trickery and intended to sell the crew as slaves. that's why the only ones left on the enterprise were children.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:they seized the ship through trickery and intended to sell the crew as slaves. that's why the only ones left on the enterprise were children. Truly, life in Ferengi space pre moogi-reform-era was a nightmare.
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I assume Grand Negus Rom was assassinated, like, 5 seconds after DS9 ended
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PostNouveau posted:I assume Grand Negus Rom was assassinated, like, 5 seconds after DS9 ended His contract is probably 100% loopholes
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PostNouveau posted:I assume Grand Negus Rom was assassinated, like, 5 seconds after DS9 ended I kind of assume this as well.
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PostNouveau posted:I assume Grand Negus Rom was assassinated, like, 5 seconds after DS9 ended For centuries afterwards Ferengi children would burn effigies of Rom the Incompetent on the anniversary of his very public lynching/delobing.
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He might've inherited a Secret Service from Zek far more competent than Rom himself was. I'd assume Zek was wily enough to keep himself from getting shot, and unless he actively wanted Rom to die he was probably also smart enough to not just throw him to the sharks.
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Never go up against the Nagus when profits are on the line!!
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MikeJF posted:He might've inherited a Secret Service from Zek far more competent than Rom himself was. I'd assume Zek was wily enough to keep himself from getting shot, and unless he actively wanted Rom to die he was probably also smart enough to not just throw him to the sharks. The daily bidding wars for bodyguards to assassinate their charge or not must be insane.
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Initially Rom was potrayed as a total idiot but this changed in later seasons where it turns out he's really good at engineering.
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Hollismason posted:Initially Rom was potrayed as a total idiot but this changed in later seasons where it turns out he's really good at engineering. They didn't know what to do with him initially. I'm pretty sure he existed because they wanted Nog but they didn't want Quark to be a father. The episode where he has a plot to murder Quark seems unthinkable a couple seasons later
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PostNouveau posted:They didn't know what to do with him initially. Yeah, DS9 definitely had to "figure out" Rom more than most characters. Uncle Scrooge McQuark
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Olewithmilk posted:They were a lot more like rear end in a top hat capitalist bandits in TNG rather than just rear end in a top hat capitalists as in DS9. That's because by definition any Ferrengi they run into on TNG is out and about, doing banditry. DS9 Ferrengi are either on their home world, or where they've set up shop.
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How many days travel is it from DS9 to Ferenginar? I bet it’s not far.
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Hollismason posted:Initially Rom was potrayed as a total idiot but this changed in later seasons where it turns out he's really good at engineering. There is even a scene in DS9 S1 "Babel" where Odo deduces Quark is lying about Rom fixing the replicator because "Rom couldn't fix a straw if it was bent." I think it's actually Heart of Stone that introduces Rom as an engineering genius.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:How many days travel is it from DS9 to Ferenginar? I bet it’s not far. It's implied to be relatively close, although not as close as, say, Cardassia. But it's in the area, not, like, on the other side of the Federation. (Actually, that might be why the Federation and Ferengi didn't have formal contract until recently: maybe it's just on the far side of Cardassian space and they didn't get a direct route through until Cardassia pulled back from some stuff at the start of DS9) (and it was like 3D in such a way that shut up) The exact flight time, weeeeeeelll, DS9 and Star Trek in general always kinda fudged flight times anyway. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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What's that old screenwriting adage about sci fi and westerns? "Spaceships and horses move at the speed of plot."
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Mulaney Power Move posted:There is even a scene in DS9 S1 "Babel" where Odo deduces Quark is lying about Rom fixing the replicator because "Rom couldn't fix a straw if it was bent." I think it's actually Heart of Stone that introduces Rom as an engineering genius. Most Ferengi have the lobes for business - Rom has the lobes for picking up random scraps of processes and knowledge he overhears,. Working at Quark's and just idly listening he was able to pick up all sorts of useful education about engineering and women's fashion, it just took a bit to fit all the jigsaw pieces into a useable framework for a knowledge base. and until that happened, he had to soldier on, trying to be ferengi as best he could.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:There is even a scene in DS9 S1 "Babel" where Odo deduces Quark is lying about Rom fixing the replicator because "Rom couldn't fix a straw if it was bent." I think it's actually Heart of Stone that introduces Rom as an engineering genius. I think Rom being a engineering savant was supposed to be there from the start but he was very occasionally ruthless and ambitious before that was completely ejected from his character in season 3. I guess you could argue that kind of comes back in the union episode but even that stemmed from his revised generally kind-hearted traits.
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Rom being good at engineering was definitely something they didn't come up with until season 2 or 3. I dunno, maybe he fixes a holsuite in season 1
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quark was originally more adversarial and rom was his treacherous henchman. when the first part changed the second had to too.
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Rom was a real jerk when DS9 started and I am glad they revamped his character.
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DS9 was cool because it fleshed out the Ferengi in such a way that it showed how they were not all just like pirates and capitalist. Nog even joins Starfleet, but still keeps wheelin and dealin. Nog had a good potrayal on DS9 Although he went from not being able to read to being in Starfleet in a few years.
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Hollismason posted:DS9 was cool because it fleshed out the Ferengi in such a way that it showed how they were not all just like pirates and capitalist. Nog even joins Starfleet, but still keeps wheelin and dealin. Ain’t no rule in Starfleet against having a side hustle.
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I can appreciate that Rom ended up married to the hottest woman on DS9 and the ruler of his people.
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External Organs posted:Truly, life in Ferengi space pre moogi-reform-era was a nightmare. TNG was never in Ferengi space, was it? One way to reconcile their earliest portrayal with the DS9 ferengi is that those guys were bandits in the wilderness. Probably didn't have the lobes for business.
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Hollismason posted:DS9 was cool because it fleshed out the Ferengi in such a way that it showed how they were not all just like pirates and capitalist. Nog even joins Starfleet, but still keeps wheelin and dealin. I love that Nog is an exceptional officer -because- he's Ferengi. Everyone else is buried under red tape while he's flowing through the Great Material Continuum. All time episode
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Hearing how DS9 went through so many revisions with wild changes to characters out of left field I am amazed it did so well overall.
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