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Isn’t McMurphy a statutory rapist, or am I imagining it.
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Torquemada posted:Isn’t McMurphy a statutory rapist, or am I imagining it. quote:She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen, she was very willing, I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut.
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May 26, 2022 14:10
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I got around to watching that new Chip n Dale movie. If you shut off the parts of your brain screaming about nostalgia cash ins and “Jesus gently caress the state of media IP ownership is dire” it’s a really fun little ride with tons of little nods and gags in the background. One thing I’d love to know is if Movie Sonic was intended to be there the whole time or if it was a sub in for another character. It’s been long enough since the first movie that the timelines likely line up but it seems like it would be pretty close to get that planned and implemented.
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May 28, 2022 05:28
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Warbird posted:One thing I’d love to know is if Movie Sonic was intended to be there the whole time or if it was a sub in for another character. It’s been long enough since the first movie that the timelines likely line up but it seems like it would be pretty close to get that planned and implemented. There were a couple interviews with the director about him, and it definitely sounds like he wasn't a sub-in; for as long as that character was in the movie, it was always that character. And apparently it wasn't an easy swing to get him (as you can imagine), he was legitimately thanking the lawyers for that one. There was at least one instance of a character sub-in, and the director was open about it in interviews, so reasonably no, the one you're talking about wasn't. Apparently the idea for the villain was always going to be essentially a dark take on a child star, but the first idea was a grown-up Charlie Brown. It turns out Peter Pan was a much easier direction for that, although I'm not sure how much they knew that the backstory they gave Peter Pan was almost exactly the same story that happened to the original voice actor for Peter Pan, which kinda makes the joke less funny and more sad.
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May 28, 2022 08:43
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Huh, that explains the ear gag a bit more then. I’m not sure if I would have preferred that or what they ended up going with.
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May 28, 2022 13:12
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Cleretic posted:There were a couple interviews with the director about him, and it definitely sounds like he wasn't a sub-in; for as long as that character was in the movie, it was always that character. And apparently it wasn't an easy swing to get him (as you can imagine), he was legitimately thanking the lawyers for that one. there's no way that was an accident
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May 28, 2022 13:25
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It does seem incredibly cruel when there were so many other options.
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May 28, 2022 14:13
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I mean that’s kind of the one of the core points of the movie and is the villain’s core motivation so may as well go hard in the paint.
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May 28, 2022 15:08
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Len posted:there's no way that was an accident I'm torn on if it was an accident or not. Because it does feel weirdly on-the-nose, but it's also, yeah, really cruel to take that angle intentionally for that reason. At the same time, though, it's also a very natural direction to take that character if you don't know. If you're going for an angle of 'child actor gone wrong' in a movie like that, there's a lot of funny novelty choices, but the most feasible pick probably was Peter Pan, just because you run into less problems; you cast Charlie Brown in that role the Schultz estate won't really like it, but if you're making it for Disney then there's less people in your way if you're using a Disney character. Add to that the fact that Peter Pan's whole story is 'the boy who never grew up', suddenly he's a very natural pick for the role. And if you're picking a point in a male child actor's life where they suddenly become 'not marketable as a child actor'... you're going for 'when his voice drops', that's a natural pick, because you instinctively know that's something that happens. Unfortunately, all of those perfectly reasonable decisions in isolation leads you into accidentally giving your fictional 'first Peter Pan' the exact same horrible life events as the real-life first Peter Pan. Whoops. Personally, I would've cast an actual ex-child star in the role instead of Will Arnett. There'd be an element of self-awareness that would go a long way if he were played by, like, Haley Joel Osment or Neil Patrick Harris.
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May 28, 2022 15:08
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I would have gone for someone older, Bill Mumy or Clint Howard or something. Also: (spoilers for the new Chip and Dale movie) Disney's ownership of Peter Pan is kind of tenuous. They don't own the character, full stop. The character is largely in the public domain in most places, but only fairly basic aspects derived from the novel. Elements that come from the play are NOT in the public domain. Aspects unique to the Disney movie are owned by Disney. In the UK, however, nothing related to Peter Pan is in the public domain and it probably never will be.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I would have gone for someone older, Bill Mumy or Clint Howard or something. For the public domain stuff, Winnie the Pooh comes to mind; derivative works on the copyright on aspects and specific portrayals of that character specifically in THAT derivative work. If he's in a red shirt and yella, he's Disney owned, fella! Naked and brown, you're in public domain town.
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May 28, 2022 16:01
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Also I believe Tigger is wholly owned by Disney.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:For the public domain stuff, Winnie the Pooh comes to mind; derivative works on the copyright on aspects and specific portrayals of that character specifically in THAT derivative work. If he's in a red shirt and yella, he's Disney owned, fella! Naked and brown, you're in public domain town. Yeah, you're just in time for the announcement of a Winnie the Pooh slasher movie.
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May 28, 2022 21:56
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It's a goddamn cartoon for small children, and you have wasted your only life.
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May 28, 2022 22:11
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Winnie the pooh is fun for all ages!
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Warbird posted:I got around to watching that new Chip n Dale movie. If you shut off the parts of your brain screaming about nostalgia cash ins and “Jesus gently caress the state of media IP ownership is dire” it’s a really fun little ride with tons of little nods and gags in the background. They released storyboards that show at one point at least they'd considered Jar Jar Binks for the Ugly Sonic role.
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Jedit posted:Yeah, you're just in time for the announcement of a Winnie the Pooh slasher movie. You know what's disturbing about that? A few years back, when Disney started pushing their Duffy Bear heavily, my wife and I started joking about if Winnie the Pooh would turn into a slasher villain over that. Come on loveable pooh turned psycho...
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Zebulon posted:They released storyboards that show at one point at least they'd considered Jar Jar Binks for the Ugly Sonic role. That would have been a better call imo. US is a interesting get but that cultural inflection point is already fading away (though I suspect that’s the point). Fukkin JarJar is eternal.
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May 31, 2022 05:35
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Warbird posted:That would have been a better call imo. US is a interesting get but that cultural inflection point is already fading away (though I suspect that’s the point). Fukkin JarJar is eternal. I wouldn't be surprised if the voice actor for Jar Jar, who received a poo poo ton of actual hate mail over the role, declined to participate. I wouldn't blame him.
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May 31, 2022 11:53
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gleebster posted:It's a goddamn cartoon for small children, and you have wasted your only life. I mean yeah but that would also be true if I only watched really clever art movies so who gives a gently caress
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May 31, 2022 12:13
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Rachel Bloom posted a picture of her reading a draft of Rescue Rangers (her husband cowrote it) on the set of the first season of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, which is at least seven years ago, so they probably had a few characters cycle in and out based on what companies Disney owned and who the lawyers could cut deals with.
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May 31, 2022 13:32
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I watched it last night and I was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. Especially since every "Let's jam a bunch of IPs together" film since the first Lego movie has been torture.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I watched it last night and I was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. Especially since every "Let's jam a bunch of IPs together" film since the first Lego movie has been torture. Wreck-It Ralph got away with it by filing off a few serial numbers.
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May 31, 2022 14:56
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Wreck-It-Ralph 2, however, absolutely did not.
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May 31, 2022 14:59
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For some reason I thought the first Wreck-It Ralph was before the first Lego Movie, that one was good.
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May 31, 2022 15:00
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Pope Corky the IX posted:For some reason I thought the first Wreck-It Ralph was before the first Lego Movie, that one was good. It wasn't? Seems like it was ages ago (it's about ten years, I think). I thought the Lego movie came out after that? Edit: wreck it ralph, 2012. Lego Movie, 2014.
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May 31, 2022 15:46
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That's what I meant. Wreck-It Ralph was before the Lego Movie, and every similar movie since the first Lego Movie has been varying degrees of awful.
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Crikey. Lego Movies feel like they've been around forever, and I thought WIR was 2015 or thereabouts.
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Probably because of the 100 games based on movies.
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I feel like the thing that makes the Lego Movie feel older might be that it's basically the last movie that cast Chris Pratt as a comedic actor and not an action/dramatic one. It's kinda weird how you can draw the line pretty much EXACTLY after the Lego Movie, too. It's Lego, then there's Guardians of the Galaxy, and with the exception of Parks and Rec wrapping up and a single guest spot on Mom it's ALL actions and dramas until you hit the in-production Mario and Garfield movies.
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Since this has become general thread for things you like about movies/tv, and not just suble ones, I'm just gonna post this here. A while back I discovered For All Mankind and I'm absolutely loving it. It's one of those rare alt-history stories that stays fairly grounded and while there's plenty to gripe about overall it's been a very exciting and fun show. If you can suspend your disbelief enough (which is pretty easy for me) it's a hell of a ride. The one aspect that makes it so is that it doesn't shy away from skipping time, like at all. Because it's about space travel and NASA and poo poo it's inescapable that some things take years or even decades to accomplish, and they just do it. Of course the downside is that they have to age characters and that's kind of hit or miss, but goddamn it feels good to have one episode set up an exciting thing to happen half a decade later and boom, two episodes and that thing happens. It's like the polar opposite of DBZ where they tell you the big energy ball is going to hit the planet in 20 minutes and 5 episodes later it's only half way. In For All Mankind say they're going to do *thing* and in the story it'll take months or years but the next episode they're there doing it because gently caress it, that's what y'all wanna see so we're gonna give it. Also space is loving terrifying and they really nail that. Some genuine horrifying moments where I get a visceral response and I'm practically gasping for air just watching it.
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Jul 10, 2022 22:44
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In Top Gun: Maverick noted illiterate Thomas Cruise flies an aircraft called a “Hornet”. This is actually based on an aircraft of the same name flown by the real world US Navy (the organization the one in the movie is based off of).
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Warbird posted:by the real world US Navy (the organization the one in the movie is based off of). How could there be an actual organization that specializes in murder and destruction for the mere sake of murder and destruction??
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:How could there be an actual organization that specializes in murder and destruction for the mere sake of murder and destruction?? Please. It's called "homeland defense" now.
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Scream (1996) In the opening scene of the movie, Casey has rented two horror movies, one of which is Halloween. Later, at the party at Stu's house, the movie they're watching is Halloween. It just struck me that this is a clue to Stu being the killer - he could have taken the tape from Casey's house when he and Billy killed her.
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i was watching You Were Never Really Here which has a ton of subtle details & i just wanna call out to the sound design: it is excellent
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IUG posted:Wreck-It-Ralph 2, however, absolutely did not. I despise this movie moreso than even the Emoji Movie, because Wreck-It Ralph is one of my favorite movies ever. But that said, there is a logical reasoning behind Vannelope being allowed/permitted to go Turbo in the second movie: she's a Disney princess, and Disney princesses always get what they want, and it never hurts anyone else. Logically we know otherwise, but in Disneyverse, it is as real as any law. Rewatching WIR, I like the foreshadowing of Turbo and the twist. In later disney movies, like Shamaylan's movies, we know the villain will be a twist, but in WIR, it was done very well. King Candy demanding to know if Ralph has gone Turbo/come to take over his game, the fact King Candy is the only adult in a game of kids racing, etc.
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Just watched Halloween H20. Janet Leigh has a small part and when she drives off in an old car a few notes of the Psycho theme play.
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I adore Felix in the first WiR movie. He could so easily have been awful but he's such a sweetheart. Good choice imo.
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Tore through some Edgar Wright yesterday with my best friend because he'd never seen any of his work except Scott Pilgrim; after watching Hot Fuzz and World's End again (wasn't in the mood for zombies) I'm standing by my opinion that Wright is the guy I'm forever going to reference when I talk about setup and payoff in film. Every example has been in this thread before but the tiny details and the stylization and the over the top effects and dozens of little callbacks wrapping everything up neatly and being supremely relevant to the way things end up is just 
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