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Shiroc posted:Question for people who understand Japanese better than me. I'm learning my hiragana so I noticed that Natto's videos have the wrestler names in it above the kanji. It is pronounced, by extending the vowel sound for an additional beat. I think it's pretty common for learners find long vowels in japanese hard to hear at first, especially in fast natural speech, but it's surprisingly noticeable once your ear is trained to listen for it. Think about the word "home" in english, it has a similar long vowel sound built in and sounds wrong if you say it with a very short ho sound. People are just really inconsistent about how they romanize the long sounds, hence eg tokyo, actually とうきょう, sumo, actually すもう, among countless other examples No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jul 18, 2022 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Imagine any yokozuna today's reaction to knowing that any special tournament they enter they may end up facing a Hakuho who's had a couple years to get proper medical treatment and rehab. This guy ruled he was only 5'7" and is still the lightest yokozuna of all time at 104kg. He won 9 yusho with 6 zensho-yusho.
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the way my kids are taught in school to show long vowels ending in う or otherwise in rômaji is to write the vowel with that hat diacritic on top. so Enho would be Enhô, Endo is Endô, Tokyo is Tôkyô etc
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Thanks for the language explanations. I'm just at the stage of learning and writing my basic kana so I haven't gotten into more complication pronunciation stuff at all. My current level of practice though sumo is helping me learn a few more than these. 
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Second week Shodai best Shodai.
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So I originally traded Onosho for Ichiyamamoto, I take it now that Ichiyamamoto is out from COVID I auto-trade to my other pick from that bracket, Nishikifuji? Or do I wind up with Onosho again, because that would also be funny. 
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I love that people can post SHODAI in this thread and I'm never spoiled on the outcome of his match either way.
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Teru vs Endo was great!
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Kenning posted:I am unaware of any circumstance where a basho that was not cancelled wasn't fought to completion, but this would be the one if any, jfc. I'm going to have to reread the autotrading rules to determine whether Ichiyamamoto gets traded out for Day 9 or Day 10, I can't remember atm. This tournament has big Brawl for All energy. We've already had a couple stables pull out with rank protection so how is that going to affect the banzuke moving forward? Also, how are wrestlers going to feel when they fight 15 days and lose rank while somebody withdrawing after day 7 will not fall? Doesn't make much sense to me.
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Shiroc posted:Question for people who understand Japanese better than me. I'm learning my hiragana so I noticed that Natto's videos have the wrestler names in it above the kanji. already answered but fyi that's enho/えんほう／炎鵬 and not endo/えんどう／遠藤。guessing it was just a typo but wanted to point that out. and yeah both nhk and abema have furigana (little hiragana characters) above the kanji explaining how to pronounce their names. from what i gather a lot of shikona kanji are kinda archaic/obscure to native japanese people and there's plenty of kanji in shikona like 山 that can use either the on'yomi reading (san/zan) and the kun'yomi reading (yama). idk how obvious it would be to a japanese person who doesn't follow sumo which reading would be used in a random shikona without them. you can also see names like that romanized "oh" in non sumo contexts. the pro wrestler keiji muto for example i've seen written as muto, mutoh, and mutö but never mutou Thauros fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jul 18, 2022 |
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god sumo is so fuckin sick
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Vargatron posted:This tournament has big Brawl for All energy. We've already had a couple stables pull out with rank protection so how is that going to affect the banzuke moving forward? Also, how are wrestlers going to feel when they fight 15 days and lose rank while somebody withdrawing after day 7 will not fall? Doesn't make much sense to me. They've gotten lucky so far in that the drops withdrawals won't really affect anyone else. Keeping Mita at Ozeki doesn't block anyone and 6 wins for Ichiyamamoto would have been enough to keep him in Makkuchi anyways. And with Ichinojo, they've already established that giving guys the promotion they deserve takes precedence over full rank protection. And we've been talking about ways to not incentivize people for being idiots and fighting when they are clearly hurt so 'd rather them expand it and protect more people than letting people drop. But they are afraid people will abuse the system so it only applies to COVID where the wrestlers/stables are clearly not the ones making the decision to stay/kyujo.
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Thauros posted:idk how obvious it would be to a japanese person who doesn't follow sumo which reading would be used in a random shikona without them. Not very. Source: our 85 yo Japanese neighbour who we watch sumo with. Some of the obscure pronunciations make her shake her head.
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Liquid Communism posted:SHODAI Shodai. Silly Abi still going for Shodai’s head when that is by FAR the least important thing to Lord Shodai’s sumo
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Elissimpark posted:Not very. Source: our 85 yo Japanese neighbour who we watch sumo with. Some of the obscure pronunciations make her shake her head. Sumostew had a video about shikona where she tried to have a Japanese friend read/decipher what they mean and he had no idea.
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Me: If I manage to get good enough at Japanese, I'll be able to read all of my sumo stuff! Old Japanese People: lol no
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I don't know how Shodai keeps getting away with it but I'm glad he does.
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bessantj posted:I don't know how Shodai keeps getting away with it but I'm glad he does. I swear its because he just looks like he has no idea where he is or what he is doing 99% of the time. It owns and it is why he is the best rikishi.  This is the face of a man that says "Where the gently caress am I and how do I get home?"
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Shodai's greatest strength is Edge Bullshit. You'll see his head doggone near be pushed off, his heels on the tawara, his sad expression. Then he'll surge - the feet move forward while his head still points at the roof, wondering. Frozen in Shodai. His feet keep moving, he's somehow now in the middle of the dohyo and his opponent is slowly falling over. Shodai wins. It could be his first win, his second, or his third. He's nearing 8 wins we know that much. His strengths may be unbecoming of an Ozeki but by the spirit of sumo does Shodai bring them when he really has to.
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Not sure of the translation but: Sumo Tournament Nagoya Tournament, Day 9 (August 18, Dolphins Arena) Shodai, who was 1-4 in the early rounds of the kadobanjo, finally got his fourth straight win, putting him ahead of the white star. He finally put a white star ahead of the rest of the field. He fought off a thrust from below by hitting Aflame in the throat with his left hand, and then pushed off with a left hand. Compared to his losing streak, I am gradually finding my pace," he said. A few days ago, when Magaki (former yokozuna Hakuho) saw that his body was dry before a bout, he told him, "Sweat properly and warm yourself up before you go. If you do that, you will be able to crack your hips better than usual," he advised him. The ozeki's movement is improving, and he said positively, "If I can stop being pushed into sumo, the results will follow. Yeah, he can roll out of bed and Ozeki. Hail Shodai.
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I've been aroused from posting slumber after losing my boy Ichiyamamoto to COVID kyujo  Please replace him with either Oho or Chiyoshoma, as per my initial picks.
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Gotta say I was expecting a lot more out endo at m5
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ilmucche posted:Gotta say I was expecting a lot more out endo at m5 I said it either in this thread or the last, Endo at M8 and below= Good for 12+ wins, Endo above M8= Will get absolutely worked. He is basically Shodai if Shodai didn't have that crazy run.
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Fluffdaddy posted:I swear its because he just looks like he has no idea where he is or what he is doing 99% of the time. It owns and it is why he is the best rikishi. I don't know if it's still the case, but he used to never check who he'd be fighting that day.
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Elissimpark posted:I don't know if it's still the case, but he used to never check who he'd be fighting that day. Lmao, of course.
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Shodai exists with the energy of the Edo guest ozeki. A man content with his life, willing to fight other guys if they come around, if he has to.
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Elissimpark posted:I don't know if it's still the case, but he used to never check who he'd be fighting that day. This unironically owns. I’m ride or die Shodai in future now Edit: imagine just showing up to the bout and seeing Hakuho. “Aw, gently caress, oh well”
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I don’t know how I have three guys on my team all tied for first, but I’m assuming something horrible is going to happen because my fantasy team is never a winning fantasy team.
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"shodai" is perhaps the most powerful statement about a fight you can make that makes no indication as to who won at all.
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Put this in perspective: he literally just shows up once every 4 (four) months, gets 8-7, refuses to elaborate & leaves.
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*nods wisely* shodai
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Elissimpark posted:I don't know if it's still the case, but he used to never check who he'd be fighting that day. God I love Shodai
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I think daishoho’s nose got broken in tachi-ai. The ref paused the match and the yobi’s wiper up a good deal of blood, then had to salt and clean the doyo afterwards.
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heehee posted:god sumo is so fuckin sick Welcome to the thread, and to the glorious spectacle of grand sumo! rare Magic card l00k posted:Due to COVID, am I allowed to trade Ichiyamamoto for Myogiryu or Oho? Since this happened after day 8, we're going with "second week kyujo protocol". You get a trade, but it follows the next day's fusen. You'll get Myogiryu for Day 10. NuclearPotato posted:I've been aroused from posting slumber after losing my boy Ichiyamamoto to COVID kyujo You will get Oho. Mode 7 posted:So I originally traded Onosho for Ichiyamamoto, I take it now that Ichiyamamoto is out from COVID I auto-trade to my other pick from that bracket, Nishikifuji? Or do I wind up with Onosho again, because that would also be funny. This is a very unusual circumstance, but I think I would tend to give you Nishikifuji, rather than the rikishi you had already traded away. The other Ichiyamamoto auto-trades are as follows: Takuan - Onosho Flinger - Tsurugisho Firebatgyro - Kotoshoho Scythe - Kotoshoho Day 9 standings Makuuchi code:code:Kenning fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jul 19, 2022 |
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Kenning posted:This is a very unusual circumstance, but I think I would tend to give you Nishikifuji, rather than the rikishi you had already traded away. Thanks Kenning, works for me! Appreciate your work more than ever this basho given the COVID dropouts coming fast and furious.
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anakha posted:Second week Shodai best Shodai.
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Spectacular hair pulling by Chiotairyu in today's match
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