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I think this might be a record. Bill de Blasio has now started and shut down four different campaign exploratory committees in the last 12 months before any voting happened in any of the four races. He formed a Mayoral campaign committee, a Gubernatorial campaign committee, and two congressional campaign committees that have all disbanded before a single vote was cast. This time, he says he is bowing out of electoral politics for good. https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1549443376189263873
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https://openargs.com/oa614-the-fec-is-corrupt-and-broken-biden-has-inexplicably-neglected-to-fix-it/ Opening arguments dropped a hell of a Bombshell about the FCC that could seriously affect the midterms. Mainly last person to dominate people to this position was Trump.
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shades of eternity posted:https://openargs.com/oa614-the-fec-is-corrupt-and-broken-biden-has-inexplicably-neglected-to-fix-it/ Could you give a quick summary? Is it just that the Republican appointees have been deadlocking most votes for enforcement? They have been doing that for a while, but if it is something different, then I'd be interested to hear it. But, I can't listen to the whole podcast right now.
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shades of eternity posted:https://openargs.com/oa614-the-fec-is-corrupt-and-broken-biden-has-inexplicably-neglected-to-fix-it/ FEC, not FCC?
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Happiness Commando posted:FEC, not FCC? Yup <shakes fist at autocorrect>
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:sounds like it is time to purge the secret service. The only thing that could make this awful year worse is Megatron escaping :/
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Morning Consult did 50 polls of every state on the job approval of their Governors. Interesting things: - Basically every Governor has a positive approval rating in their state. - The Northeast loves their moderate Republican Governors. - Someone should time travel to 2006 and tell them that crazy lefty Ned Lamont is the most popular Democratic Governor in the country. - Kate Brown (D-OR) and Dan McKee (D-RI) somehow pissed off a lot of people in their states. - Jim Justice appears to be one of the very few politicians to pull a party switch and succeed in completely turning around his approval rating. https://twitter.com/MorningConsult/status/1549443957549137920 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jul 19, 2022 |
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shades of eternity posted:https://openargs.com/oa614-the-fec-is-corrupt-and-broken-biden-has-inexplicably-neglected-to-fix-it/ It didn't take long for me to quickly look into it to provide more context. It has to be 3 Republicans and 3 Democrats. There are 3 vacancies (1 Republican, 2 Democrats), who are still serving until a replacement is confirmed. One of the "Democrats" whose term is up now calls himself an independent, and Biden DID nominate a replacement for that guy, who is not yet confirmed. Of the other two, one is a Democrat who Biden might be happy with, and the other is a Republican who would have to be replaced with another Republican. I assume there is a procedure for the GOP to make sure the nominee isn't a "Republican" who hates the GOP. Maybe Biden thinks the Republican whose term is up is roughly the best he could likely get. The FEC often deadlocks 3-3 on anything controversial. edit: The Democrat Biden nominated to replace the independent guy actually did get confirmed by the Senate. She is just waiting to be sworn in. So there are two vacancies, if Biden chooses to fill either, restricted to the political party they represent. Rigel fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jul 19, 2022 |
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It was pretty obvious when Manchin announced it earlier, but now it is official: The climate change provisions are out of the reconciliation bill and they are moving forward to try and pass the reconciliation bill before the August recess. https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1549466184264843264 Jeff Merkley says they will try for another reconciliation bill in September with a climate change compromise (safe to assume that there is a 99% chance of that never materializing) and they need to take what they can get now with the Rx drug pricing, Medicare out of pocket caps, and Obamacare subsidy expansions.
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Jul 19, 2022 19:52
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Great announcement to make on a day when another popular news item is “airports in Europe are melting”
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:sounds like it is time to purge the secret service. Nevada confirming that a transformer in the dam caught fire. Nobody hurt and the fire is out. Still investigating the cause. https://www.fox5vegas.com/2022/07/19/boulder-city-fire-responding-hoover-dam-after-explosion-reported/
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Going to be real great when the new GOP Congress next year passes the ‘Tire Burning Act of 2023’ Thanks to Manchin we can’t even get the barest of bare minimum legislation done. This is on top of the SC making it even more difficult to fight Climate Change with regulation
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Nevada confirming that a transformer in the dam caught fire. Nobody hurt and the fire is out. Still investigating the cause. Those transformers aren't cheap or quick to replace. I bet it made a fun sound when it popped.
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Rigel posted:It didn't take long for me to quickly look into it to provide more context. The podcast lays out the corruption fairly simply, the current structure of the FEC means that during the Hilary/Trump race they rightfully hit the Hilary campaign for hiding spending campaign funds on the Steele Dossier. The campaign did hide the funds, it was referred to the FEC, the campaign was caught and paid the fee, that's how the system currently works. But, the Trump campaign at the same time has managed to have 43 violation referrals all come back without action from the FEC including deciding they shouldn't fine or punish the campaign for using campaign money to pay Stormy Daniels hush money on the basis that since Cohen was in jail by that point and the story was public knowledge that it would " not be the best use of agency resources". There are 3 Republicans who always decide not to take action against Trump and they're able to use the current problems to have outsized control. It's a mini-supreme court, an organization who are meant to be independent, are currently blatantly partisan, and the Biden admin doesn't seem to be taking it as seriously as they should.
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Gumball Gumption posted:The podcast lays out the corruption fairly simply, the current structure of the FEC means that during the Hilary/Trump race they rightfully hit the Hilary campaign for hiding spending campaign funds on the Steele Dossier. The campaign did hide the funds, it was referred to the FEC, the campaign was caught and paid the fee, that's how the system currently works. But, the Trump campaign at the same time has managed to have 43 violation referrals all come back without action from the FEC including deciding they shouldn't fine or punish the campaign for using campaign money to pay Stormy Daniels hush money on the basis that since Cohen was in jail by that point and the story was public knowledge that it would " not be the best use of agency resources". There are 3 Republicans who always decide not to take action against Trump and they're able to use the current problems to have outsized control. Biden can't replace the 3 republicans with people who believe in vigorously enforcing election law. The FEC is infamous for being toothless and pointless when it comes to important campaigns, mostly only harassing less important politicians. The fact that Hillary's campaign was hit with a fine is actually the real miracle here. And its not like it impacts the outcome of elections, what ends up happening is maybe the winning/losing campaigns have a slightly higher campaign debt to retire. edit: and Biden did get a replacement confirmed, so the podcast was just simply factually wrong on one of its most basic premise.
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Rigel posted:Biden can't replace the 3 republicans with people who believe in vigorously enforcing election law. The FEC is infamous for being toothless and pointless when it comes to important campaigns, mostly only harassing less important politicians.  the podcasts argument is that the system doesn't work and the President should be focused on fixing systems that don't work, especially when they can have negative impacts on elections.
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Kanos posted:, then I was enraged about how he had bamboozled everyone. He explicitly told everybody what he was before he was elected in his book. Outright “ I am going to disappoint them.” to people who thought he was what you thought he was. Again before he was elected You ... uh bamboozled yourself. Now are there ideological choices he made that lead to now and that could have been made differently, yes. But those ideological failures especially in retrospect are quite in line with his stated beliefs actually were.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Nevada confirming that a transformer in the dam caught fire. Nobody hurt and the fire is out. Still investigating the cause. So it WAS Megatron. Bastard 
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https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1549462189895041024 17 non lawmakers along with those listed were also arrested. Assistant Speaker Katherine Clark of Massachusetts Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts Barbara Lee of California Jackie Speier of California Sara Jacobs of California Ilhan Omar of Minnesota Bonnie Watson Coleman of New Jersey Andy Levin of Michigan Rashida Tlaib of Michigan Jan Schakowsky of Illinois Madeline Dean of Pennsylvania Cori Bush of Missouri Carolyn Maloney of New York Nydia Velazquez of New York Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York Alma Adams of North Carolina And Ohio's supreme court has sent back the gerrymandered map back to be redrawn for a second time. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/19/ohio-supreme-court-scraps-2nd-gop-drawn-congressional-map-00046583
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Bugsy posted:https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1549462189895041024 This seems like a big thing? Like arresting and hauling off 17 congresspeople seems a little abnormal for someone to do? Was it the Supreme Court police, DC, who? E: congresspeople don't have any sort of diplomatic immunity or whatever right?
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That’s more Dems than the current House margin, right? If they held a vote for speaker right now, they could have a Republican House for a few hours at least
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projecthalaxy posted:This seems like a big thing? Like arresting and hauling off 17 congresspeople seems a little abnormal for someone to do? Was it the Supreme Court police, DC, who? Not for something like this, especially where the point is to get arrested, no.
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projecthalaxy posted:This seems like a big thing? Like arresting and hauling off 17 congresspeople seems a little abnormal for someone to do? Was it the Supreme Court police, DC, who? Capitol police arrested them for blocking traffic after the standard the warnings apparently... Chud friend if mine was calling out how they were not cuffed but posed to make it look like they were. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/19/politics/congress-members-arrested-abortion-protest-supreme-court/index.html
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projecthalaxy posted:This seems like a big thing? Like arresting and hauling off 17 congresspeople seems a little abnormal for someone to do? Was it the Supreme Court police, DC, who? It was US Capitol police and 35 people total arrested, they were charged with "Crowding, Obstructing or Incommoding" which is a misdemeanor. So what happened here is that the Congress people were politely escorted out of the road while not being cuffed and then had their info taken. They should be able to pay their fine in 24 hours at the Capitol police office. This is the charge you see people get when they do modern sit ins, like when activists sit in a Congress persons office or the hallway. It's very planned civil disobedience, maybe a little light on the actual disobedience since it's pretty much the protesting fee. Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 19, 2022 |
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projecthalaxy posted:This seems like a big thing? Like arresting and hauling off 17 congresspeople seems a little abnormal for someone to do? Was it the Supreme Court police, DC, who? Other people more or less answered, but congresscritters have limited arrest immunity... as long as they're going to, coming from, or currently in the Capitol (or their adjacent offices?). This clearly does not apply when they got together to go protest the Supreme Court.
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I see, thanks for the information. I guess I didn't realize it was so planned and low stress. "Arrested" has a different expectation for me. Also I know they have to and it was probably just a formality like you're saying but I love the idea of the Capitol Police lining up like AOC and Ilhan Omar and etc and being like "okay who are you? Where do you work?"
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“Breach of the peace” is specifically listed as an exemption from congressional immunity, so even if protesting qualifies as an exercise of congressional duties, which it almost certainly doesn’t, they can still get arrested for it
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projecthalaxy posted:This seems like a big thing? Like arresting and hauling off 17 congresspeople seems a little abnormal for someone to do? Was it the Supreme Court police, DC, who? It was most likely Capitol Police. It's not that big of a deal. They were getting arrested for visibility and an arrest is different from a hold or detainment. They didn't even resist arrest and I'm not sure what the specific statute is in D.C., but disrupting traffic is definitely a misdemeanor. They will just get a ticket or a summons (if they want to contest it) and be on their way. Speech and debate clause only applies when members of congress are performing their duties as elected representatives.
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projecthalaxy posted:I see, thanks for the information. I guess I didn't realize it was so planned and low stress. "Arrested" has a different expectation for me. Also I know they have to and it was probably just a formality like you're saying but I love the idea of the Capitol Police lining up like AOC and Ilhan Omar and etc and being like "okay who are you? Where do you work?" I can't find the video now but there was video on Twitter where they were all off to the side showing IDs and having the cops take photos.
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AOC hamming it up for the camera is so embarrassing. Pretending to be cuffed for a photo op being arrested? That is the sort of poo poo that can undermine an entire movement. What a colossal self own.
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Discendo Vox posted:I love having to counterargue nonsense from multiple mediated sources in multiple threads simultaneously. I.C.1.
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I know they were probably expected and also the Court area is very heavily patrolled right now thanks to their votes but the CNN article Vox posted says they were stopped by the police and arrests started "within two minutes" of showing up at the Court. That's customer service. I guess it was stupid for me to initially think AOC and Pressley and everyone were due for a ride to the drunk tank but yeah I'm not used to arrests being this... uhh ritualized? Formal? I don't know the word.
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projecthalaxy posted:I know they were probably expected and also the Court area is very heavily patrolled right now thanks to their votes but the CNN article Vox posted says they were stopped by the police and arrests started "within two minutes" of showing up at the Court. That's customer service. If they really cared about keeping kayfabe they would spend a night in lockup.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The 1/6 Committee asked for the Secret Service text messages from the 6th (when they had to restrain Trump from going to the Capitol). Fire the ones in charge at the time of the purge and the ones directly responsible for managing the files. Charge every single one of those groups with Seditious Conspiracy and Obstruction of Justice, and regardless of whether charges stick or not, permanently blackball them from work in the security community (and they can't use their SS jobs as references), put them on some kind of watch list, and "accidentally lose" the pensions they were supposed to be able to collect. Bugsy posted:And Ohio's supreme court has sent back the gerrymandered map back to be redrawn for a second time. I don't know why courts keep giving the same assholes who drew the bad maps in the first place more chances to draw new maps. Are you expecting a different result? All the Republicans do is just draw more bad maps up until the point where "whoops it's too close to the election, guess we need to use the old bad maps!" If the court seriously cares they they have to draw the new ones themselves.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Fire the ones in charge at the time of the purge and the ones directly responsible for managing the files. Charge every single one of those groups with Seditious Conspiracy and Obstruction of Justice, and regardless of whether charges stick or not, permanently blackball them from work in the security community (and they can't use their SS jobs as references), put them on some kind of watch list, and "accidentally lose" the pensions they were supposed to be able to collect. There were two people who ran Trump's detail. One of them left to work for Trump personally and the other is currently the head training instructor for the Secret Service after Trump promoted him on the way out. So, lol at getting either of them to flip or give an honest account of what happened.
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Kaboobi posted:https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1549473220427976706 I'm sure they'll manage to push through that bill shoveling billions to profitable companies though!
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Saw this tick tock on what women are facing in the country right now and figured it's worth reposting. If this isn't the right place for this Mods, happy to move it to a different thread. https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7115511531298639147
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Jaxyon posted:Not every single one, sure! In addition to what others have said, another problem with this is that it includes people who ever had slaves period. Franklin as a but not only example was a staunch abolitionist by the time of the constitution.
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