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The one time I played with a pro DM he also had laid out like a dozen possible pregens for the table of 4 players, so yeah I assume it would be "ok you happen to meet Blargo in the next scene, we all mourn Felf's passing, but it's important to complete the quest!"
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GimpInBlack posted:What's the next level beyond "mask off?" Because god drat that is some Myfarog level poo poo. During pride month the facebook page had (briefly) an image of a father reading bed time stories to his children and "blocking" rainbows from his children. Unless the screenshot is fake, they clarified that it was 100% an anti-LBGT message: 
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yes a lot of very old UFO lore said that the things driving them looked like big nordic white people. UFO encounters didn't start describing the the pilots as little green men or greys until after the Barney and Betty Hill case blew up in the media. By pure coincidence I'm sure the Outer Limits episode with these guys in it predates the Hills describing their abductors. They started saying they were abducted in 1961, Outer Limits didn't start until '63.
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Maxwell Lord posted:They started saying they were abducted in 1961, Outer Limits didn't start until '63. they reported missing time and some sort of UFO experience, but the actual abduction narrative and the occupants of the craft were a later addition from hypno-therapy sessions, in '64, if I recall correctly
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Nordic aliens always seemed to me to be more about reinforcing the racial hierarchy that racists love. The world is organized by race, with white people on top and ooga-booga savages at the very bottom, so if we get contacted by an even more advanced species, then it just stands to reason that they would look like super-white people (because they are super-smart and super-advanced). QED, if you start from the belief that the natural order of the universe is determined by skin color and, uh, skull physiognomy I guess.
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Jul 20, 2022 18:48
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Slyphic posted:None of the GMs at cons I attend are paid. Many years, both sides of the table. You get reduced or free admission, but that's not 'paid' in my book. I'll be honest, I find "they aren't being paid, they're just being given goods and services at reduced cost or for free" to be splitting hairs, either way the entire arrangement is transactional (you come run a game for us and we give you compensation).
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Maxwell Lord posted:They started saying they were abducted in 1961, Outer Limits didn't start until '63.
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Coolness Averted posted:The one time I played with a pro DM he also had laid out like a dozen possible pregens for the table of 4 players, so yeah I assume it would be "ok you happen to meet Blargo in the next scene, we all mourn Felf's passing, but it's important to complete the quest!" At Landfill's Funeral, Landfill's brother introduces himself and insists that you call him Landfill in his honor.
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I like old Star Frontiers, jank and all. This whole thing with nuTSR makes me nauseous.
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If you play with a paid DM, have all the same conversations you would have with a friend DM or a random DM. You discuss your expectations, themes, PC lethality, tone, X card, OOC table talk, scheduling, and and and. If they aren't willing to have those conversations, they're not actually a good DM and you should find another one. If they are willing to have them, know the game's rules, and also can keep to your schedule and can keep the spotlight shifting among the party, well, that's why you're paying them.
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GimpInBlack posted:What's the next level beyond "mask off?" Because god drat that is some Myfarog level poo poo. KKK hood on
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BattleMaster posted:KKK hood on Uh, that is literally the step before “mask off”
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Bottom Liner posted:Uh, that is literally the step before “mask off” I thought "mask off" meant one dropped the mask that hides that they are a racist piece of poo poo, so the next step seems to me that one would put on a new mask that screams to the world how hosed up they are. edit: Like the progression from dogwhistle to speaking voice to air raid siren, this bullshit being an example of the last BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jul 20, 2022 |
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Syfyfarog
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Bottom Liner posted:Uh, that is literally the step before “mask off” "Started goosestepping"
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Megazver posted:This combination of blatant bigotry and the author obviously being pretty dumb is pretty funny, tbh. So much of it is horrifically racist and should be burned to ash, but god drat me and smite me dead I can not stop laughing my rear end off at "social justice warrior warrior"
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SpaceDrake posted:So much of it is horrifically racist and should be burned to ash, but god drat me and smite me dead I can not stop laughing my rear end off at "social justice warrior warrior" Looks like we got a no it all here, folks
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Improbable Lobster posted:"Started goosestepping"
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BattleMaster posted:I thought "mask off" meant one dropped the mask that hides that they are a racist piece of poo poo That's exactly what the hood did and why they wore it. Because they were politicians, police, etc. Still are.
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Bottom Liner posted:That's exactly what the hood did and why they wore it. Because they were politicians, police, etc. Still are. Okay but mask off refers to someone dropping their facade, and wearing a Klan outfit doesn't hide your intentions very well
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I don't know why you're having such a hang up and getting a simple phrase so mixed up. But taking the mask off is being proud of your racist bs and owning it instead of hiding behind a mask for anonymity, which is what the hood provides.
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BattleMaster posted:Okay but mask off refers to someone dropping their facade, and wearing a Klan outfit doesn't hide your intentions very well Do you think the "mask" is supposed to be like a cheeky Carnival costume mask? And a Klan hood hides your identity, not your intentions, which is the point of the phrase.
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"Mask off" comes from 1940s psychology and refers to a psychopath dropping their false personality and showing the world what they are. It never had anything to do with literal masks like KKK masks
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Yes but it's weird for you to think the next step after "masks off" is to literally put a physical mask on. It's right there in the phrase, no mask! Lmao
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BattleMaster posted:"Mask off" comes from 1940s psychology and refers to a psychopath dropping their false personality and showing the world what they are. It never had anything to do with literal masks like KKK masks What? The term predates that, contemporaneous with "unmask" going back to the 1700's.
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Terrible Opinions posted:No judgement on people who do, but I find the idea of playing a TTRPG with someone I'm not already friends with super uncomfortable and weird. I'm a bit late to the party here, but here's my take. Let's look at how a GM's role differs from the players'. 1) A GM has to really, really know the rules. Inexperienced players can learn as they go, not the GM. 2) The GM has to do a fair amount of work beforehand. Yes, sometimes the GM will wing it, which can lead to hilarious times, but generally they need to get their poo poo together first. 3) If a player doesn't show up that day, the group can usually go on, but if the GM doesn't show, you're hosed. So, if you hire a GM, you're paying a bit of money for a guy who knows his poo poo, did his homework, and is even more incentivized to show up than the average guy. That's a fair trade, IMHO.
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Jimbozig posted:poo poo written by racists always reads like it was written by a 14 year old. 
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If you've ever played in a convention game you've paid to have someone GM.
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Splicer posted:If you've ever played in a convention game you've paid to have someone GM. Yeah but 99% of that money goes to the convention for the table space and not the GM. Very few con games are paid GM experiences. Different things really.
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Gynovore posted:So, if you hire a GM, you're paying a bit of money for a guy who knows his poo poo, did his homework, and is even more incentivized to show up than the average guy. That's a fair trade, IMHO.
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GreenMetalSun posted:I'm sorry, there's a race of Nazi supermen that's well established in real UFO lore? What? I have bad news for you about what happens to literally every conspiracy-centric community, and which absolutely did not skip the UFO people.
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Drakyn posted:deinonychus-people sending Generic D&D Human Kingdom settlers packing from their dinosaur continent, This sounds pretty rad
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Drakyn posted:When I was 14 I was writing settings based around mary sue heterochromia-eyed dragons and earnest but stupid and ignorant attempts at anticolonialism involving deinonychus-people sending Generic D&D Human Kingdom settlers packing from their dinosaur continent, don't you put my dumb rear end in the same boat as this garbage Do not kill the part of you that is cringe, kill the part that cringes.
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Mors Rattus posted:I have bad news for you about what happens to literally every conspiracy-centric community, and which absolutely did not skip the UFO people. Yeah there's a very good reasons why everybody immediately understood what it meant when conspiracy loons started talking about (((things written in triple brackets))). It wasn't actually a new development.
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/NoHateInGaming/status/1549479240390901760?t=u6G4A0NNrbub8u9GFuzJsQ&s=19 MYFAROG had only fantasy and modern supplements, finally someone made the sci-fi version.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Syfyfarog 
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BattleMaster posted:"Mask off" comes from 1940s psychology and refers to a psychopath dropping their false personality and showing the world what they are. It never had anything to do with literal masks like KKK masks I thought it was a robbery thing, where if you're mask off you're no longer letting anyone who can possibly identify you live.
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FMguru posted:Nordic aliens always seemed to me to be more about reinforcing the racial hierarchy that racists love. The world is organized by race, with white people on top and ooga-booga savages at the very bottom, so if we get contacted by an even more advanced species, then it just stands to reason that they would look like super-white people (because they are super-smart and super-advanced). QED, if you start from the belief that the natural order of the universe is determined by skin color and, uh, skull physiognomy I guess. They directly are because all of the big, early contactee people were theosophists or traveled in those circles. They just took all the "root races" and automatic writing stuff but made it about UFO's. Instead of going into the Earth and meeting Count St. Germain, they were communing with the cosmos and the new "hidden masters." It moved on from there once the monster and weird humanoid alien sightings started getting published but that's 100% the reason the enlightened, peaceful aliens are blonde haired and blue eyed because they're based on the same mythical Aryans that the Nazis talked about. Theosophy was a big influence on a lot of their esoteric beliefs and William Dudley Pelley, the American fascist leader, was big in the UFO contactee scene after WWII. He was unable to publish anything related to politics as part of his release from prison during the war for treason and he just pivoted to UFO's from theosophy. Perceptions of aliens really changes over time but it's largely due to media, popular culture, and what contactee stuff was being published. All the theosophy people already had printing setups and connections so they were at the ground floor. Once contactee culture becomes more widespread, more and more people get interviewed and investigated so things change. There was also a cultural change too because in the early days the "weird" alien sightings were often suppressed by UFO investigators because it didn't match their concept of aliens. So by picking and choosing what was valid, they were altering public perception to meet their concepts or theories. By the late 60's though many high level UFO investigators like John Keel and Jacques Vallee even go so far as to posit that aliens aren't actually what we consider aliens from outer space. They start talking about them being trickster entities, shapeshifters, and possibly related to the fae of ancient and medieval legend so the whole field gets blown wide open. Betty and Barney Hill's experience was possibly inspired by the Outer Limits due to hypnosis being incredibly unreliable. The modern grey alien was very much inspired by the cover of Whitley Strieber's Communion, which isn't actually accurate to the beings he claimed he encountered, but it's so chilling looking that it entered the public zeitgeist for decades. TL;DR: The concept of the Nordic alien is inherently racist because it's based on an old racist cult's beliefs and promoted by literal fascists.
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on the subject of aliens and conspiracies and the fascist history of many top UFOlogists, you should listen to Penny Royal podcast. it’s great and season two in particular is about how a lot of this stuff intersects in US history and therefore conspiracists slide right so often
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:TL;DR: The concept of the Nordic alien is inherently racist because it's based on an old racist cult's beliefs and promoted by literal fascists. 
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