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Broken Record Talk posted:Traitors are always the right choice. Top of page, but this is still important ^^^^^
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Night Lords remain the best legion because you can cover them in decapitated heads and capes made out of flayed babies and still say 'nah dude these guys are loyalists'
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Jul 21, 2022 19:21
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Those were bad babies.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:22
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DaysBefore posted:Night Lords remain the best legion because you can cover them in decapitated heads and capes made out of flayed babies and still say 'nah dude these guys are loyalists' They were basically a 40k Space Marine chapter before it was cool.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:29
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This thread is gonna neg me into collecting UM or whoever is the least popular loyalist Legion.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:41
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JcDent posted:This thread is gonna neg me into collecting UM or whoever is the least popular loyalist Legion. Salamanders are GW's least favorite. Iron Hands, as usual, are completely forgotten by the community - I can count the number of players I've seen for them in any community on one (sadly not iron) hand.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:42
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SkyeAuroline posted:Salamanders are GW's least favorite. I honestly keep getting the Iron Hands confused with the Iron Warriors. They're both Legions that have Iron names, they both focus on machines over people and becoming machines, except that Perterabo at least has his "gently caress you dad, I'm an athiest" aspect and the Iron Warriors have biomechanical horror as their design aspect.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:48
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DaysBefore posted:Night Lords remain the best legion because you can cover them in decapitated heads and capes made out of flayed babies and still say 'nah dude these guys are loyalists' Loyalist Night Lord players are serious degens
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Jul 21, 2022 19:50
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Ferrus Manus is tied with Jaghatai Khan for the lowest-effort name.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:52
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Angron He's so angry.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:53
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Thank you everyone. Rolled the dice, not literally, and ordered the Liber Hereticus for some hot Death Guard action. Blobs of troops, dreads and templates for life! Thank you everyone Don't forget to nab the pdfs for the Exemplary Battles Units for the Mortus Poisoners and the Legacy one for some extra characters. JcDent posted:This thread is gonna neg me into collecting UM or whoever is the least popular loyalist Legion. I mean they also get some great units in the pdfs.
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Jul 21, 2022 19:54
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Hixson posted:Loyalist Night Lord players are serious degens And we revel in it!
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Jul 21, 2022 19:57
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UM are definitely one of the more popular Loyalist Legions. Iron Hands, Salamanders, and Raven Guard, perhaps somewhat unsurprisingly, seem to be the least popular. I guess getting wiped out in the surprise opening of the war does that to you! That being said, I expect we’ll see a huge uptick in the popularity of the Raven Guard, since the starter box is basically designed for them. If only they’d swapped the Cataphractii for Assault Marines!
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Jul 21, 2022 20:01
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SkyeAuroline posted:Salamanders are GW's least favorite. Hey, I'm playing Iron Hands and... Actually, this is going to be fun. I just wish that GW WOULD GET MK3 ARMOR BACK IN PRINT AAAAAAAA
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Jul 21, 2022 20:13
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Don't want to play as them, but it'd be cool to see someone do traitor Iron Hands with that sick eye everywhere.
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Jul 21, 2022 20:13
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So just out of curiosity, but how do Traitor Iron Hands and Traitor Iron Warriors differ, or "in-universe" did the Iron Warriors just go "Yeah, sure, roll up your sleeve and we'll get you started on your Obliterator Virus treatments" and just incorperated them into the Iron Warriors?
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Jul 21, 2022 20:19
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Randalor posted:So just out of curiosity, but how do Traitor Iron Hands and Traitor Iron Warriors differ, or "in-universe" did the Iron Warriors just go "Yeah, sure, roll up your sleeve and we'll get you started on your Obliterator Virus treatments" and just incorperated them into the Iron Warriors? Having read most but not quite all the 30k novels, I’m honestly not sure there are any specific examples of Traitor Iron Hands on the 30k end of things. I haven’t read basically any 40K novels though, so there’s potentially tons of room for some there.
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Jul 21, 2022 20:26
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I feel like I've seen more Sallies in Batreps than UMs, but I might be mistaken. Would love to get Sallies because they're the goodest boys, get a lot of MKIIs and MKIIIs, and Pyroclasts look ace. Iron Hands have the staying power, which is what I like, and they're cyborgs, which I also like, but they have probably the least exciting paintjob. Randalor posted:I honestly keep getting the Iron Hands confused with the Iron Warriors. They're both Legions that have Iron names, they both focus on machines over people and becoming machines, except that Perterabo at least has his "gently caress you dad, I'm an athiest" aspect and the Iron Warriors have biomechanical horror as their design aspect. Iron Hands are about becoming cyborgs, Iron Warriors are about doing WWI siege reanactment with Space Marines and then being mad by it (and also being mad at IFs for doing sieges, but actually being happy about it) and their dad hating them to the point where he replaces them with robots. Ferrus isn't as mad as Pert, but still an rear end in a top hat afaik.
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Jul 21, 2022 20:44
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Broken Record Talk posted:UM are definitely one of the more popular Loyalist Legions. Iron Hands, Salamanders, and Raven Guard, perhaps somewhat unsurprisingly, seem to be the least popular. I guess getting wiped out in the surprise opening of the war does that to you! Randalor posted:So just out of curiosity, but how do Traitor Iron Hands and Traitor Iron Warriors differ, or "in-universe" did the Iron Warriors just go "Yeah, sure, roll up your sleeve and we'll get you started on your Obliterator Virus treatments" and just incorperated them into the Iron Warriors? They're two different distinct Legions, traitor IHs would probably go do their own thing rather than just enlisting in the IW. Going from what it says regarding the traitor warlord trait, I think the idea is traitor Iron Hands might have just gone fully nihilist after Istvaan V.
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Jul 21, 2022 20:50
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Yvonmukluk posted:I mean the Cataphractii make pretty good Deliverers... Although that creates its own problems. If you're running the Cataphractii as Deliverers you don't need the Spartan for 'em, so you'll want to pick up Tartaros instead, but GW doesn't currently sell those.... (Dear GW, re-release the Cataphractii and Tartaros plastic terminators in new ten-model boxes with new upgrade sprues that give them more of their weapon options, plskthx.) Stephenls fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Jul 21, 2022 20:59
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Stephenls posted:Although that creates its own problems. If you're running the Cataphractii as Deliverers you don't need the Spartan for 'em. Same "problem" I'm going to be running into - I plan to run my Cataphractii as Tyrants, they don't need the Spartan, but not bringing it is a waste of already-spent money. Especially since it can push me to a 2k list if I'm careful (and find all those launchers for the tyrants) with just the box contents. Not sure what to advise for someone not hell bent on maximizing "points for $ spent", though.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:03
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Stephenls posted:Although that creates its own problems. If you're running the Cataphractii as Deliverers you don't need the Spartan for 'em, so you'll want to pick up Tartaros instead, but GW doesn't currently sell those.... I mean they're at least doing the '10-model boxes' part soon-ish...
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Jul 21, 2022 21:06
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JcDent posted:Ferrus isn't as mad as Pert, but still an rear end in a top hat afaik. Ferris is Paul Bunyan but real. "Well then he wrestled that dang metal snake for three days and finally drowned it in lava, and wouldn't you know it the metal plum stuck to his hands!" I hope he returns as Ferrus Corpus as a severed head piloting an Imperator Titan.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:15
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moths posted:Got a better photo of my scouts, and the MkIV helmets were absolutely the correct decision. These are coooool.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:28
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A lot of my decision on legion is going to come down to what a friend of mine is picking. I wanted to pick UM but my friend is also considering picking them and I get the feeling UM mirror matches would be really boring.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:37
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Lucinice posted:A lot of my decision on legion is going to come down to what a friend of mine is picking. I wanted to pick UM but my friend is also considering picking them and I get the feeling UM mirror matches would be really boring. Play Word Bearers.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:42
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Lucinice posted:A lot of my decision on legion is going to come down to what a friend of mine is picking. I wanted to pick UM but my friend is also considering picking them and I get the feeling UM mirror matches would be really boring. Cessna posted:Play Word Bearers. Alpha Legion also works for a counterpart to UM. Or World Eaters. Or NLs, now I think of it.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:56
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If you're coming from 40k, many of the tropes associated with certain factions are notably absent or different during the heresy. After all, this is 10,000 years before the regression of everything. There's also been a general effort over the years to differentiate and expand the legions compared to their early fluff. Outside of the big four cult legions, things like the flesh change haven't even happened yet. Iron Warriors are good examples of how things have evolved. In the old fluff they were siege and defense specialists with a preference for twisted technology and ranged warfare. This clashed with the background of the Iron Hands and Imperial Fists. Today they're no longer defense or technology experts, just experts at destroying defenses and hard targets. They're pragmatic, so they use technology, but its more a means to an end. Legions of expendable robots and dark mechanicum guys doing logistics. Wear a helmet and replace your arm because it got shot off. The Iron Hands at the start of the heresy are renown and considered one of the, if not the most, powerful legions. Rightly so then, does Horus utterly crush them. Their size and preference for high intensity warfare would have made them good at fighting other marines. Ferrus is not a pragmatist, he's got pride, and his ego leads his legion to their grave. They're shown and represented in rules as tech experts, particularly with some esoteric and defensive equipment, but also almost in a religious way. Something the IWs would roll their eyes at. The fists aren't just piss colored bros that are so very stoic ontop of walls anymore either. They have a big fleet and are naval / boarding experts now. Also good at bolter drill because they don't skip basic training. Gone is the pain glove, maybe they pick that up during the scouring. BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Jul 21, 2022 22:26
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Thanks ijyt and bulba! I love that it fixes the two problems with scouts: the meaty faces and not looking like HH figures.
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Jul 21, 2022 22:27
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BULBASAUR posted:*Words on lore* I have a followup question that's more due to not being 100% sure where stuff falls on the timeline, but did Arihman cast his Rubric before or after Prospero was destroyed and Magnus yeeted all the 1k Sons to the planet of Sorcerors?
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Jul 21, 2022 22:39
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Randalor posted:I have a followup question that's more due to not being 100% sure where stuff falls on the timeline, but did Arihman cast his Rubric before or after Prospero was destroyed and Magnus yeeted all the 1k Sons to the planet of Sorcerors? After Magnus teleported everyone to the Planet of the Sorcerers, the flesh change started affecting the 1k Sons again, so Ahriman was like "ah gently caress I'll pick a spell out of Magnus' big spell book and see if it fixes us" and bippity boppity boo, all is dust.
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Jul 21, 2022 22:43
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Gotta be honest what I've read of "The Burried Dagger" makes me care more about the Death Guard. Gotta find proper bits to Death Guard up the beakies. Gotta either find some good :files: for heads or bite the bullet on paying lovely GW prices. I'd love to get my hands on some MK III armour to mix in and out with the Beakies but cant' seem to find any on sale.
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Jul 21, 2022 22:55
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Any word when the new Contemptor model is coming out?
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Count Thrashula posted:After Magnus teleported everyone to the Planet of the Sorcerers, the flesh change started affecting the 1k Sons again, so Ahriman was like "ah gently caress I'll pick a spell out of Magnus' big spell book and see if it fixes us" and bippity boppity boo, all is dust. It was later than that. Magnus teleported everyone to Sortiarius (speaking of low effort names) and then sulks for a while, and he gets so mad at his dad that he decides to help gently caress up terra. He goes there and helps with the siege but not much because he doesn’t really care much and there aren’t very many Sons left after Prospero (and a bunch of the ones that are left are dying of flesh change). He’s also there to retrieve fragments of his soul, which he does, except for one that is bound to one of the founders of the Grey Knights (this was the fragment that had his goodness in it, which is why he’s such a dick now). Post heresy he retreats to brood on their failure and more and more Sons are turning into Cronenbergs at which point Ahriman decides to “fix” things.
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Jul 22, 2022 01:44
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JcDent posted:This thread is gonna neg me into collecting UM or whoever is the least popular loyalist Legion. A proper rogue trader themed Ultramarine army with goblin green bases and "kill" decals would knock my socks off
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War and Pieces posted:A proper rogue trader themed Ultramarine army with goblin green bases and "kill" decals would knock my socks off Siivola fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jul 22, 2022 04:18
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It was difficult to suppress the classic Crimson Fists urge accompanying 40 beakies in a box.
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moths posted:It was difficult to suppress the classic Crimson Fists urge accompanying 40 beakies in a box. Same, but I'm enjoying the Night Lords transition.
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Ooh poo poo those are going to look rad with decorative strips of flesh. I'm really enjoying playing with the Mk6 armor. So far I've added a few to my Kakophoni (using AoS, FW, and CSM bits) and the focal point of the weapon visually drowns out the size difference. I'm hesitant about using them as a base for Palatine Blades, though - they're very plain which makes them a good fit for conversion but going ornate may take more converting than they're worth. The old FW palatines are REALLY drat short, too.
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moths posted:The old FW palatines are REALLY drat short, too. Yeah, it's unfortunate, some of the better FW HH sculpts, in terms of design, are also some of the older ones, meaning that they're absolutely dwarfed by the modern plastics. My FW SoH Reavers are like 75% of the mass of the new MkVI, and it bugs the poo poo out of me.
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