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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:The idea that the secret service might be compromised with sympathizers runs counter to everything I've ever heard about their relationship with Trump, which was mostly that he resented their presence, tried keeping them out of the loop with everything, and preferred his own private security. Eh, every group has their fascist bootlickers, the people who don't want to be in charge, but who do want to be allowed to smash heads when the time comes (and who try to enflame situations in the hopes that punches will be thrown). I don't know if they were his personal detail or just ones he appointed to higher-ranking positions, but you can be sure there were Trump supporters in with the USSS.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:The idea that the secret service might be compromised with sympathizers runs counter to everything I've ever heard about their relationship with Trump, which was mostly that he resented their presence, tried keeping them out of the loop with everything, and preferred his own private security. Tony Ornato was the Secret Servicr Deputy Assistant Director, left to become Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff of Operations, and then went back to the Secret Service where he is now Assistant Director of the Office of Training.
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Sounds like his mind is filled with thots and prayers the gently caress is a tho— maybe I’m better off not knowing
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Tayter Swift posted:Sounds like his mind is filled with thots and prayers It stands for "That Ho Over There", so given the redundancy it's likely he didn't know what it stands for either.
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Jul 21, 2022 03:47
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Get ready for the reporting. James Murray was hand-picked to run the USSS by Trump. I'm not going to start quoting Lawrence O'Donnell of all people, I am content to wait a few days for the news to catch up. Is there any sharp line the committee would be crossing by subpoenaing James Murray? I have zero doubt his life is about to get really loving uncomfortable in the next 24-48 hours. Tick, tock. Synchronize watches.
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Jul 21, 2022 03:47
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Don't do the "tick-tock, synchronize watches, Big Deal incoming, watch this miniature cannon gif" thing, it's really obnoxious. This isn't a twitter feed.
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Jul 21, 2022 03:54
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Counter-proposal: Go police someone else's posts while I prepare your breakfast. It'll be in my toilet.
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Jul 21, 2022 04:02
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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1549917096469233664 For those unable or unwilling to click the link, the committee has outtakes of Trump's message to the rioters. 
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Dr. Faustus posted:I have zero doubt his life is about to get really loving uncomfortable in the next 24-48 hours. Tick, tock. Synchronize watches. Would you say.... The walls are closing in?
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Discendo Vox posted:Don't do the "tick-tock, synchronize watches, Big Deal incoming, watch this miniature cannon gif" thing, it's really obnoxious. This isn't a twitter feed. It actually is kind of annoying
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Jul 21, 2022 08:26
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I hope they play the Trump outtakes at the end like its another Cannonball Run.
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I'm a bit late to the party, but what? Nevermind how suspicious the text messages being wiped is, what the hell is that bit about no after-action reports being filed for Jan 6th? There's a massive riot at the capitol building while Congress is in session and the VP is directly, openly being targeted, with the stated purpose of overturning the results of the 2020 election. The president himself eggs them on and then - repeatedly - insists on marching up to the capitol with the rioters, a thing which he's told, also repeatedly, is not safe, by the Secret Service (amongst others). There are weapons in the crowd that showed up to listen to Trump's speech, and Trump told them to let the armed protesters into his rally. When they won't let him go to the capitol to lead the insurrectionists into the House chamber, he attempts to take control of the car and then assaults one of them. Meanwhile, all of congress has to be evacuated while the building has already been breached, and, when escorted out, the Vice President refuses to get into the car that's going to take him to a safe location, choosing instead to remain sheltering in a building overrun with a bloodthirsty mob calling for his head. Nobody filed a report? No one? No one thought to maybe write that one up? Yeah, that alone just rolled me into the "fire absolutely everyone" camp, because holy poo poo.
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If you deleted a bunch of messages proving your culpability and only submitted one, and wanted that to be a message of defiance, which text would you submit? https://twitter.com/queen_city_news/status/1550065548272103424?s=21&t=OjDH75DVrmNywTfJesfvkw FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Interesting. From electoral vote: [quote]House with 157 members—praised Mike Pence for his courage in certifying the 2020 election. As readers well know, Trump cheered on the mob that wanted to hang Pence. This suggests that some Republicans are coming to realize that there is strength in numbers and if over 150 Republicans band together to support Pence (and implicitly oppose Trump), they can get away with it and live to tell about it. Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) even stood up during the meeting and told Pence: "I just want to say thank you for defending our Constitution. I'm happy to shout it from Mar-A-Lago to Bedminster but I just want you to know how grateful we are." Make no mistake about it. This is a direct attack on Trump from a conservative Texas Republican, something unthinkable 6 months ago. And the assembled Republicans clapped after Roy finished speaking. So it may be that the hearings are (indirectly) having an effect on congressional Republicans as well as on Republican strategists (see above item). It is perhaps noteworthy that Pence was invited to address the RSC by its chairman, Jim Banks (R-IN), a solid (?) Trumpist./[quote] https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2022/Senate/Maps/Jul21.html#item-3
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For those Republicans still playing ~game theory~, too, Trump's power to harm them has seemed diminished recently. Although he still has the power to clear the field and give a massive boost to one candidate in a crowded race, his endorsements of challengers to established incumbents were not particularly successful this primary season. I don't expect any of them to suddenly grow a courage, but the stakes for failing to show up for Trump in minor ways aren't as severe as they may once have been.
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Quorum posted:For those Republicans still playing ~game theory~, too, Trump's power to harm them has seemed diminished recently. Although he still has the power to clear the field and give a massive boost to one candidate in a crowded race, his endorsements of challengers to established incumbents were not particularly successful this primary season. I don't expect any of them to suddenly grow a courage, but the stakes for failing to show up for Trump in minor ways aren't as severe as they may once have been. I think it depends where and when. The hardline trumpist are still winning primaries especially when they are crowded or tight because the chud base still loves trump. Mastriano and Cox and oz and others have won. The question now is if they win the general in purple/bluish purple states and I think a lot of the big ghouls and poobahs are waiting to see what happens in the midterms(beyond the house) and probably what the committee will show. My belief is trump will run and the party will split between him and desantis or whoever and see where that all goes. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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DHS OIG knew the SS texts were purged as early as February but informed no one. At least four separate committees have requested them, not only the J6 committee. DHS OIG is now instructing USSS not to conduct their own investigation alleging it will interfere with theirs. quote:First on CNN: DHS inspector general tells Secret Service to stop investigating potentially missing texts
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Jul 21, 2022 19:09
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Well I hope the DHS people involved aren't, y'know. Thingy.
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Tony Ornato needs a really loving good criminal defense lawyer, perhaps more than anyone but Trump or maybe Stone.
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I found the deleted text messages. Ss1: yooo take the whiney baby back to the white House this poo poo outta control Ss2: bitch boy is crying at me about his coup lmao Ss1: lmfao Ss2: ayy this motherfucker just tried to take the wheel and choke me out Ss1: no fuckin way Ss2: about to clock his rear end back to 1776 Ss1: nooooooo fuckin way he didn't step to you Ss2: he cryin about a big mac now swear to u I'm fuckin done Ss1: best day of my life lmfao
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I'm hoping outtakes of Trump's Jan. 7 video tonight are Bill O'Reilly "gently caress IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE" levels of enjoyment.
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crime fighting hog posted:I'm hoping outtakes of Trump's Jan. 7 video tonight are Bill O'Reilly "gently caress IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE" levels of enjoyment.
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Grip it and rip it posted:You think arbitrarily firing every SS agent, people who have committed their entire lives to obtaining the positions they now have, is somehow going to lead to a better formation of that organization? Why would smart or talented people want to work for an agency where they can be arbitrarily dismissed based on pure speculation? Doesn't really matter that the one solution is going to cause issues. It's still the only solution. The rot is deep.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Doesn't really matter that the one solution is going to cause issues. It's still the only solution. The rot is deep. Look we can't fire people for crimes, who would want to work somewhere where you get fired for crimes???
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Piell posted:Look we can't fire people for crimes, who would want to work somewhere where you get fired for crimes??? More like we can't fire 7,000+ people because we think a couple dozen of them committed crimes and can't be assed to figure out which ones. That's not a serious suggestion, it's just throwing a temper tantrum.
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OgNar posted:I hope they play the Trump outtakes at the end like its another Cannonball Run. Except for Mister Foyt, who deserved at least some of it.  Trump can sit in the open front of the white caddy (CbR2) and steer.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:55
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Oh shoot, the last scheduled hearing is tonight? Time flies. These hearings have been really, really good so far, I'm very impressed. I think keeping all the MAGA yahoos off of the committee has paid enormous dividends.
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How are u posted:Oh shoot, the last scheduled hearing is tonight? Time flies. These hearings have been really, really good so far, I'm very impressed. I think keeping all the MAGA yahoos off of the committee has paid enormous dividends. Oh poo poo! How long until the actual hearing starts? It's very late today so I might not be able to watch it live 
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One hour, 8 pm EST And Fox News will not be airing it live, because of course they don't want to broadcast our government speaking the truth.
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Hearing is scheduled to start at 5:00 Pacific, about an hour from now. https://youtu.be/DLKCGEHHfh4
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Thanks, that's 2am, so I think I'll have to pass this time and will have to check the highlights tomorrow.
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Why would they have private counsel unless the agency lawyer had to recuse themselves for some reason? Seems pretty shady
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Not suspicious at all  Fire the conspirators
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How are u posted:Oh shoot, the last scheduled hearing is tonight? Time flies. These hearings have been really, really good so far, I'm very impressed. I think keeping all the MAGA yahoos off of the committee has paid enormous dividends. Yeah it’s been very good so far. My guess is there might be one or two more august but i can’t wait to read the full report
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Regarde Aduck posted:Doesn't really matter that the one solution is going to cause issues. It's still the only solution. The rot is deep. Historically, the big problem with dealing with elite military groups dedicated to the government's defense, like the Praetorian Guard or the Janissaries, wasn't that they were disloyal and meddled with politics. It's that they were wary of any moves that might diminish their power and influence in any way, and would happily coup any emperor that showed even the slightest intention of reining them in. Proposing sweeping measures like disbanding the group or creating a more trustworthy alternative force were a quick route to getting assassinated. So if we really think the Secret Service is so far gone as to be compared to the Praetorians, then carelessly engaging in hasty action isn't good. And if the Secret Service isn't that far gone and this is just a small group, then firing absolutely everyone will radicalize them and increase the disloyal faction's power.
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last scheduled hearing as opposed to last ever
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