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I can't believe NATO forced Russia to liquidate jews
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I can't believe NATO forced Russia to liquidate jews 
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Jul 22, 2022 04:24
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mfa_russ...-says-zelenskiy
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Jul 22, 2022 06:26
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Don't they know China's already indebted most of Africa?
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Jul 22, 2022 07:10
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Don't they know China's already indebted most of Africa? Well plus the fact that they invaded their neighbor to restore their own imperial footprint. And that the Wagner Group is selling mercenaries to local African governments in exchange for mineral rights (which is almost exactly what the Europeans did in colonial Africa).
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Jul 22, 2022 07:19
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Are you saying they're not quite on the level? 
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Jul 22, 2022 07:22
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psydude posted:Well plus the fact that they invaded their neighbor to restore their own imperial footprint. And that the Wagner Group is selling mercenaries to local African governments in exchange for mineral rights (which is almost exactly what the Europeans did in colonial Africa). China's going to absolutely kick Russia's rear end in the neocolonial African proxy wars of the late 2020s and it's going to be awful for everyone.
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Jul 22, 2022 07:23
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Are you saying they're not quite on the level? I think we're all pretty much in agreement WRT Russia's true colors, but I personally use a lot of the stuff y'all post here to push back against the people I encounter who occasionally, perhaps un-intentionally, try both-sidesing or trying to blame NATO.
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Jul 22, 2022 07:30
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Blaming NATO is such bullshit and is like the equivalent of blaming a battered housewife for trying to have support
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Jul 22, 2022 07:40
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Oh wait no sorry I forgot the west bad
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Jul 22, 2022 07:40
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Kazinsal posted:China's going to absolutely kick Russia's rear end in the neocolonial African proxy wars of the late 2020s and it's going to be awful for everyone. Ghost in the Shell future let's go. Oh gently caress the cyberbrain would be on Meta.
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Jul 22, 2022 08:04
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Oh wait no sorry I forgot the west bad Only Russia is allowed to have security concerns. Those countries that Russia wants to invade? They deserve it for antagonizing Russia by trying to guarantee their own security.
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Jul 22, 2022 08:50
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psydude posted:Well plus the fact that they invaded their neighbor to restore their own imperial footprint. And that the Wagner Group is selling mercenaries to local African governments in exchange for mineral rights (which is almost exactly what the Europeans did in colonial Africa). This good anticolonialist has your lovely argument covered: https://mobile.twitter.com/shakazulubrnr/status/1550347143168376832 Just some disagreements in the soviet union, a thing which exists.
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Jul 22, 2022 12:38
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Blaming NATO is such bullshit and is like the equivalent of blaming a battered housewife for trying to have support Well, if she wants him to stop beating her over his legitimate concerns, maybe she should do a gesture of good will, like giving him custody over their children, Donny and Lucas. Really, the people try to get her to stand up to him and end his abuse are only prolonging the conflict. What else could he have done but start punching her face every day once he found out she was trying to have friends and see other people?
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Jul 22, 2022 12:42
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Blaming NATO is such bullshit and is like the equivalent of blaming a battered housewife for trying to Even if you think the US is bad this metaphor works.
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Jul 22, 2022 12:49
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Oh wait no sorry I forgot the west bad
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Jul 22, 2022 15:40
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It’s all been really illuminating to see so many internet leftists admit they’ve only really been interested in living in a fascist authoritarian state with social welfare. They treat China the same way.
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Jul 22, 2022 15:44
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People on the internet have terrible opinions.
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Jul 22, 2022 15:50
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Tiny Timbs posted:It’s all been really illuminating to see so many internet leftists admit they’ve only really been interested in living in a fascist authoritarian state with social welfare. They treat China the same way. Isn't China's social welfare system dogshit though? I remember reading somewhere recently about how elder poverty is climbing, along with people's inability to afford healthcare.
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Jul 22, 2022 16:29
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psydude posted:Isn't China's social welfare system dogshit though? I remember reading somewhere recently about how elder poverty is climbing, along with people's inability to afford healthcare. It takes a lot of cherry-picking to make the argument, I think. Their response to covid often gets held up as an example of a government truly caring for human life and the cracks don’t often show up in the media.
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Jul 22, 2022 16:32
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Tiny Timbs posted:It’s all been really illuminating to see so many internet leftists admit they’ve only really been interested in living in a fascist authoritarian state with social welfare. They treat China the same way. Seeing the power that a small group of people in the US have over the lives of everyone else makes people want someone with greater power to crush those that are hurting them. Unfortunately it turns out that anyone who would want to wield such power is almost always an irredeemable piece of poo poo, and that's the sand in the gears of the Leninist philosophy of "crush everyone under the bootheel of an all powerful nation-state THEN give the power back to the people".
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Jul 22, 2022 17:25
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Elviscat posted:Seeing the power that a small group of people in the US have over the lives of everyone else makes people want someone with greater power to crush those that are hurting them. To be fair to the armchair communists out there, Xi and his government have been very transparent about their belief that Democracy is way too unstable and chaotic for The People. Better to let a small cabal of insiders decide among themselves what is best for everyone than to let the people elect a small cabal of insiders who may occasionally be held accountable.
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Jul 22, 2022 17:37
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psydude posted:Isn't China's social welfare system dogshit though? I remember reading somewhere recently about how elder poverty is climbing, along with people's inability to afford healthcare. Their healthcare system is bizarre - when I went there they had parallel systems, one with Western medicine and one with traditional Chinese medicine. My guidebook stated pretty emphatically that if you got sick in some regions you may have to really insist that you be taken to a western hospital. My understanding is that they've been expanding their western style facilities pretty aggressively. Who knows how accessible it t is to poor people though.
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Jul 22, 2022 17:41
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This is interesting https://twitter.com/rferl/status/1550496497246035969?s=21&t=BI74b444wo-siyplxqB-Iw Also I wonder if this is confirming it in a sense or pointing to more incidents of it? https://youtu.be/XvjIYgbxozE
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Jul 22, 2022 18:35
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Tiny Timbs posted:It’s all been really illuminating to see so many internet leftists admit they’ve only really been interested in living in a fascist authoritarian state with social welfare. They treat China the same way. It's a lot more complex than that, with both historical cold war and recent RF societal destabilisation operations at play. The Ukrainians, god knows why, allowing media to embed with Azov which resulted in a shitload of the pre-escalation coverage being alarming to anyone who knows the history of the conflict, or just what a Schwarze Sonne is. On top of that America seeming to be unable to stop its slide into open far-right fascism. And the neocon ghosts of Iraq coming back to tell us this one is definitely justified, while slowly beating the drum that says China needs to be next. Russia has to be forced out of Ukraine and contained until it can be trusted not to act like a feral imperial power, and the international food supplies need to be reinstated urgently, but tarring everyone who is unhappy with the situation or the way it is presented as simply loving authoritarianism or hating 'merica is reductive and dumb. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jul 22, 2022 19:16
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It's a lot more complex than that, with both historical cold war and recent RF societal destabilisation operations at play. The Ukrainians, god knows why, allowing media to embed with Azov which resulted in a shitload of the pre-escalation coverage being alarming to anyone who knows the history of the conflict, or just what a Schwarze Sonne is. On top of that America seeming to be unable to stop its slide into open far-right fascism. And the neocon ghosts of Iraq coming back to tell us this one is definitely justified, while slowly beating the drum that says China needs to be next. When skepticism of the Ukrainian position and the US response are paired with a defense of Russia’s own ambitions I don’t think I’m tarring anybody unfairly by saying they’re clarifying their position as merely wanting a different kind of authoritarian in charge.
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Jul 22, 2022 19:25
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Tiny Timbs posted:When skepticism of the Ukrainian position and the US response are paired with a defense of Russia’s own ambitions I don’t think I’m tarring anybody unfairly by saying they’re clarifying their position as merely wanting a different kind of authoritarian in charge. I agree, but my personal experience has been that there's far more of that happening in anecdotal posts than in reality. So I think it better to steer away from broad generalisations.
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Jul 22, 2022 19:28
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I agree, but I also think that there's far more of that happening in people's minds and anecdotal posts than in reality Well, I did say “internet” leftists. That’s a breed that stands apart from the people actually doing the good work, in my mind.
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Jul 22, 2022 19:29
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Second most powerful army in the world https://twitter.com/tpyxanews/status/1550554054962675713?s=21&t=_5YXO78VJnYjjZju9_wzrg
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Jul 22, 2022 20:01
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Second most powerful army in the world That was awesome.
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Jul 22, 2022 20:06
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Second most powerful army in the world Russia's gotta be the best place to commit acts of sabotage, because there's no way to know whether it's their own incompetence or the evil forces of NATO (it's their own incompetence). psydude fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jul 22, 2022 20:25
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Second most powerful army in the world This video is a few years old so it's not from the Ukraine clusterfuck--one clue being that's a SAM (pretty sure that's some species of S-300) and not a SRBM. It's still funny as poo poo though. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jul 22, 2022 21:48
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This video is a few years old so it's not from the Ukraine clusterfuck--one clue being that's a SAM (pretty sure that's some species of S-300) and not a SRBM. It's still funny as poo poo though. And seems like it's occurring during the current war too. Kind of predictive lol
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Jul 22, 2022 21:56
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It's like a My Size version of that clip of a guy bouncing a smoke grenade off a tree into his own bunker
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Jul 22, 2022 22:03
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https://twitter.com/kama_kamilia/status/1550505155338158080?s=21&t=nIwE1OUFQMSaPaA7Zbe5Og
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Jul 22, 2022 22:41
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I can't read the top text and am confused by the Arizona green tea livery
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Jul 22, 2022 23:10
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M_Gargantua posted:I can't read the top text and am confused by the Arizona green tea livery 
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Jul 23, 2022 00:30
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psydude posted:Isn't China's social welfare system dogshit though? I remember reading somewhere recently about how elder poverty is climbing, along with people's inability to afford healthcare. China has essentially no social welfare system. The US looks like Denmark in comparison. Imagine the US healthcare system, except the community health centers are even worse and there's no Medicare/Medicaid. Also people (including doctors) don't believe in actual medicine and give you occasionally-toxic herbs instead. Elder poverty is common and getting worse since the one child policy means there are a lot of situations where six olds are dependent on a single child to pay for everything. The equivalent to social security is not a central system but depends on location; everywhere it's wildly inadequate though. Like $40 a month. There's essentially no social safety net at all in China. There used to be more programs but they were mostly eliminated in the 90s. One of the reasons people emigrate to the US is for its generous social services. Some plans exist to try to fix it but who knows if they'll happen. There really isn't enough money to do it. Too many people and too few resources. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jul 23, 2022 |
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Jul 23, 2022 00:46
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Wait, I thought that Communism was supposed to fix all that.
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Scuffy_1989 posted:Wait, I thought that Communism was supposed to fix all that. Socialism with Chinese characteristics, friend. The "characteristics" are the upper class gets all the money and the rest get nothing. You may think that sounds suspiciously like something else but I can assure you: the flag is red, so it's not.
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