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Snowman_McK posted:. The tram that leads into the next scene is 'set up' with one context free shot of its windows exploding in on its passengers. It then vanishes for two minutes until Gosling needs it to escape. The less said about the subsequent chase the better but holy poo poo some of that CGI.
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Jul 25, 2022 01:30
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well there's no action movies in theaters rn
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got mildly confused if D.Gray-man had a western live-action adaptation but, lol John Wick 2 John 2 Wick John Wick: Chapter 3 – John Wick (4) Wick Five
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“You would kill a girl?” “Do not pay this man” “These people lack honor. I just had to test if you were worthy first” Punkin Spunkin posted:I never really got into John Wick and i just really cant express what doesnt click...i saw the first one, liked it okay, think i watched one other sequel, but for some reason they all pass thru me leaving no memory. Compared to say, Collateral, which I cherish and remember well. There’s definitely a diminishing return particularly with the world building
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Jul 25, 2022 09:18
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They cast Ryan G and Ana de Armas but they aren’t even in a weird parasocial relationship
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John Wick starts out really interesting and mysterious and the more they fill it in the more it's just bog standard Court Politics stuff.
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Payndz posted:There are shots in the tram sequence that reminded me of the final chase in Torque. And anything reminiscent of the final chase in Torque is never good. "How do we give a feeling of speed in this shot?" "Skip-frame it to make everything move twice as fast." "Uh, won't that make the action strobe and the physics look cartoony and ridiculous?" "Meh." Torque is a goddamn masterpiece. It knows what it is and revels in it. Everyone, watch TORQUE
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:John Wick starts out really interesting and mysterious and the more they fill it in the more it's just bog standard Court Politics stuff. Yeah that's how I feel. It starts out as a pure revenge story with some interesting world building, then the world building becomes the story. At least the action scenes have been consistently good and incentive through all the movies.
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dokmo posted:Yeah that's how I feel. It starts out as a pure revenge story with some interesting world building, then the world building becomes the story. At least the action scenes have been consistently good and incentive through all the movies. They decided that they needed to keep 'world building' instead, I guess the alternative would be to Police Story it, and make them only loosely connected, which also wouldn't have worked well either. Keeping moving through John's Bad Day makes more sense as a series then 'several years later Jackie needs to work with Michelle'.
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I totally checked out of John Wick after the second, the worldbuilding was so cringey. They really forgot what made the first one so good - the concept of a man insanely brutally slaughtering hundreds of people cause they killed his dog.
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John Wick has the Matrix sequel problem where the base concept is only strong enough to sustain one movie. Instead of expanding upon it, or going in other directions, the sequels only introduce more characters and some who-gives-a-poo poo esotericism. (Ohmigawd; Neo kissed a character named Persephone! Be sure to drink yr Ovaltine!)
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Jul 25, 2022 16:11
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I think I can agree with that. The two sequels didn't do anywhere near as much for me as the first despite the crazier action. The entire world turning out to be secret undercover hitmen just kinda sucked.
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Jul 25, 2022 16:21
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They can keep making John Wicks into infinity as far as I'm concerned. Any concerns that they weren't gonna be able to mix up the action enough to sustain a series were put to bed with JW3, and then some. I had some issues with where they took the story in JW3 but those are minor quibbles when you take the overall package into account.
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Jul 25, 2022 16:22
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I liked it when they referenced Ms 45
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I keep laughing at how they keep emphasizing "This time, we sent everybody after him!" in each new movie. By the fourth movie you really get the impression that all the assassins that answered the call in 2 and 3 were total chumps because look, now the real badassassins are after him!
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I think only Common has two scenes against Wick. Every other "awesome assassin" is a one-and-done. Am I remembering that right? Also, bring back Common.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I think only Common has two scenes against Wick. Every other "awesome assassin" is a one-and-done. Am I remembering that right? Yeah, even Tiger Chen only got into it with Wick to have his eye impaled.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I think only Common has two scenes against Wick. Every other "awesome assassin" is a one-and-done. Am I remembering that right? Mark Dacascas gets two scenes with Wick, and he gets the better of him in the first one.
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Just please no more scenes where John fights his way to have a conversation with someone we've never seen (but who has VIP poise) who monologues for ages about how they can't help him because of how important the rules are and you can't ever break the rules or the entire world will come falling down because the High Table and their rules are oh-so very important and unbreakable. John mentions some off-screen favour or obligation. "Oh, okay then."
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Jul 25, 2022 18:07
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At what point do they just make a movie where John Wick kills all 8 billion humans on earth?
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No one,not even you John Wick, can kill everyone!" Yeah I dunno, he's doing pretty great so far. edit for lmao kinda beaten
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The last movie should end with the spirit of the dead puppy rising up from the grave, like a force ghost with Air Buddies mouth effects, and telling Wick to “just loving stop it already.”
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Currently working my way through The Gray Man, and while I am easy to please where action and smarmy Goslins and Evanses are concerned, the movie has me cringing about what exactly it is saying about the CIA. There is, like, a POC meany-head current chief of the CIA who is clearly too ambitious for his own good and who does away with all those old-fashioned methods of doing wetwork that his predecessor, a righteous old white dude who cares for his sick niece, has installed. The meany's main instrument is a free agent who berates the CIA agents who have been ordered to follow his lead, they just have "too many rules" while he gets the job done (he doesn't). The old-fashioned method of doing wetwork of course is CIA James Bond in Ryan Goslin, who we see in a flashback took care of the sick niece. Aiding this hero is an attractive and good CIA agent who sees through the meany's schemes and knows there is a conspiracy to unveil. Maybe the MacGuffin they are all after reveals that every single character in the movie is a murderous/genocidal shithead, but I have my doubts. I remember and have taken part in discussions about how problematic the CIA agent in Black Panther was, this movie feels as if the Russo brothers saw that whole thing unfold and thought "How about we do that without any friendly black people and more CIA kicking rear end?"
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Everything said about john wick makes me finally realize why i treat the series like "i have no interest in seeing this movie but i will watch like, 7 minutes of the fight scenes"
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All of the John Wick movies rule. Haters vacate.
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John Wick rules because it’s so silly and doesn’t care. I love that. It knows it’s silly and winks a bit but doesn’t joss Whedon the thing.
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Oh i dont hate it, i really like the 10 minutes of every john wick i watch on youtube
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JW2 has the gun sommelier scene and can do no wrong
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It gave us this tweet, which justifies both the films and Twitter in general https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1231730262880460801
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I watched The Grey Man last night, and I’ve got to say it really reminded me of 1985’s Commando. Not in tone or theme, but the parallels kept piling up. A special ops guy with absurd forces levelled against him, and the movie keeps explicitly telling us how incredibly bad-rear end he is. A kidnapped daughter-figure held in a mansion. The hero escapes from his would-be captors and absconds from a plane in mid-flight. A partnership with a lady with whom the hero has a conspicuously entirely platonic relationship with. And it all culminates in a ludicrous one-person frontal assault on the previously-mentioned heavily fortified mansion (though Ana de Armas has fractionally less muscle mass than Arnold), followed with the hero fighting an over-the-top and homoerotically charged villain where they throw their guns away as some kind of macho display. I genuinely think this movie is an attempt to make an adaptation or reimagining of Commando with modern sensibilities, and I think Chris Evans was deliberately channeling a bit of Bennet in his performance. I enjoyed it well enough, though of course it can never top the bonkers majesty of the original Commando.
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3 felt like "Wheels Spinning: The Movie" and didn't really know what they wanted to do with John, so they just had him go from set-piece to set-piece annihilating people. His entire arc is coming to realize that the system he once inhabited and thrived in sucked poo poo, which is a good arc but they could have done more interesting stuff with his character - going to places of his past to allude and lore dump things on him isn't that interesting. I like that world quite a bit but it's kinda putting lore over story right now but 4 looks like it might make good on 3's meandering setup. Love all the films, by the way. But perfectly sums them up.
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Gray Man is forgettable the only thing left is for The Culture to write 100 tweet threads about why Chris Evans' character is gay and Ryan G's character is gay and they are gay for each other
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married but discreet posted:I totally checked out of John Wick after the second, the worldbuilding was so cringey. They really forgot what made the first one so good - the concept of a man insanely brutally slaughtering hundreds of people cause they killed his dog. see that wasn't even the worst part for me. Everyone kills people in broad daylight and civs either don't notice or look away which leads me to believe it's a world where people have to do wet poo poo like you drive for uber. Which is neat the high table stuff? Oooh look at me I run the high table from Mt Everest aka The Highest Table nobody gives a gently caress
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I liked John Wick 2 a lot overall but it felt like it had too much and too little world building at the same time. John Wick 1 okay all the assassins work out of this one hotel in NYC and them and their various weapons dealers/etc. use gold dubloons for money and they communicate via an old timey phone network. So they have a physical currency that's totally disconnected from what regular people use and a communication network that's totally disconnected from what regular people use. There's some serious rules about how the assassins can behave when on these sorta neutral grounds. Perfect. John Wick 2 okay the assassins are ACTUALLY run in Italy by the Camorra. The Camorra is an actual really old criminal organization irl that divides its groups into clans and all this other stuff but irl they mostly just run drugs, but whatever, cool, they just do assassinations now. But after John Wick "completes" the job suddenly it's really bad if the guy he helped out ascends to a seat on the HIGH TABLE instead of Wick's now dead target. But like....why? The main bad guy comes off like a violent rear end in a top hat who will cause chaos, but how is this any different from what anyone who runs a massive international assassination group is going to do? Anyway Laurence Fishburne ruling the streets owned. We soon learn why so many fights and killings can happen in broad daylight at the end of the movie when it's revealed that like a 1/3 of NYC's population are assassins. If this guy is so bad and Wick was so set on not helping him he could have just taken him out any time instead, if this guy is so hated why would anyone at this point care that he invaded John Wick's house and threatened him, so John Wick killed him? Ruby Rose basically looking like King from the KoF games was cool. John Wick 3 okay so there's actually AN EVEN OLDER, EVEN HIGHER group running the show but only like one person on earth knows who and where they are and the only way to reach that person is to metal gear solid your way to his minting facility and then blast your way out after speaking to him, but somehow this highest of highest guys is able to run the whole show and has like infinite power from his tent in the middle of nowhere. A huge chunk of the movie felt like it was just filler between what goes down in 2 and what 3's ending builds up to. I liked the arbiter character. Mark Dacascos dying sucked rear end. Have him and Common come back in John Wick 4 as allies or something. First third of the movie whipped rear end. So on the one hand I am super hype for John Wick 4, but on the other hand I hope it's tighter with its characters and story, there's definitely enough world to play in already.
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Comrade Fakename posted:and I think Chris Evans was deliberately channeling a bit of Bennet in his performance. Nailed it. It was a very '80s action movie, with all the requisite flaws to make that so.
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AlternateAccount posted:Nailed it. it wasn't anywhere near well paced enough for that, and there was no gratuitous nudity 0/5
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