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Sab669 posted:Yet you have an anime avatar here, interesting poo poo, busted
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Really tempted to get into VR but having a hard time deciding between Quest and Reverb. I have a good enough PC that I think I'm going to want to use PCVR (Ryzen 5 3600, Nvida 1070, 32 Gigs RAM) Quest sounds attractive for how easy it is to set up + wireless, and being cheaper, but one of my friends who has had both headsets said they thought it was uncomfortable compared to the Reverb, and OP makes the Reverb sound better quality in some other factors too. I'm a little unclear on how the audio works on the Quest as well, or what the microphone situation is for either. A downside to the Reverb sounds like i'd need to buy rechargeable batteries separately? My friend was making it sound like you want particular ones too. Are both going to be fine if I wear glasses 24/7? Do either have limitations on setting up stuff like hip-tracking?
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Jul 26, 2022 17:11
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I have both. Get the Quest 2. Reverb has excellent clarity and good comfort but tracking sucks, the controllers need 1.5v batteries (which can be hard to find), you'll likely need a powered USB hub even if your system uses USB3 and being tethered sucks poo poo. Q2 is cheaper, almost no hassle to set up, batteries last forever (and you can use normal 1.2v ones) and if you buy Virtual Desktop ($20 when not on sale) you'll have seamless, wireless PCVR. Edit: Forgot to mention that for maximum comfort and long-term play, get a backup battery and strap it to the back of the headset. Yes it adds weight but it distributes it more evenly so your nose doesn't get dented. Inzombiac fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jul 26, 2022 |
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Jul 26, 2022 17:18
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I'm a brand new VR user and I have a Quest. As far as the glasses thing goes it only took a few seconds to put the spacer on for the glasses once I figured out what I was supposed to be doing. I don't wear glasses with the Quest but my wife does, we don't bother taking the spacer out ever and have never had any issues with it. Also I've noticed the strap for the Quest is not the best like you have heard, however everything I've read has said it's easily fixable with an upgraded strap, third or first party.
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Jul 26, 2022 17:23
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Get the Kiwi strap, imo. It's got a knob to adjust spacing on the fly and is very comfy. I also bought some controller grips that make it so you can let go but still have them on your hands. Very nice when playing a lot of Pavlov and your hands start to cramp.
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Jul 26, 2022 17:24
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What a nuisance, it doesn't look like the Kiwi strap is sold for a reasonable price on amazon canada?
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Jul 26, 2022 17:29
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I'll go ahead and plug VR Wave's prescription glasses inserts for the Quest again since these things have been a game changer for me. I used glasses in the headet for a while, then stopped because it was annoying, and then obviously everything was just always a little blurrier than it should be. I got these and it's been like night and day, and they snap on with magnets so the lenses themselves can go on and come off super easily if you have other people using the headset too.
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Jul 26, 2022 17:31
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https://twitter.com/UploadVR/status/1551975794917900290 Ouch
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Jul 26, 2022 18:10
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holy poo poo, that's pretty brutal.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:14
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:No modding needed, it has folders for custom stages and songs right in the program folder. Oh cool, I think I need noodle manager for some beat saber stuff too
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Jul 26, 2022 18:16
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Seems like a strange time to be giving up their price advantage now that competitors are finally starting to make it to market. "Quest 2 is $150 cheaper than the Pico 3" was a much stronger argument than "Quest 2 is $50 cheaper than the Pico 3".
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Jul 26, 2022 18:31
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Thanks for the responses, I think I'm sold on the Quest 2. My friend was saying it doesn't charge as fast as it drains with most usb 3.0 or something? I'm probably gonna be running out to grab a headset from BestBuy today or tomorrow, debating seeing about buying a long USB 3.0 because I'm unclear if my wifi will be fast enough / or to have the option to be tethered without being right beside my PC. Inzombiac posted:Edit: Forgot to mention that for maximum comfort and long-term play, get a backup battery and strap it to the back of the headset. Yes it adds weight but it distributes it more evenly so your nose doesn't get dented.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:40
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https://a.co/d/5Q5lR2M I use this battery pack and get over 12 hours over Virtual Desktop. I have it Velcro strapped to the DAS (which I have using adapters for the Quest 2)
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Jul 26, 2022 18:44
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, I think I'm sold on the Quest 2. Well you then should buy it asap, see posts above about price increase !! Also, you should use someone referral link before buying it to get $30/30 euros in credit store. Like for example, this https://www.oculus.com/referrals/link/TurinTurambar/ (mine, obviously) Finally, don't believe your gtx 1070 is going to do so well for PC VR, so a Quest 2 may be a good idea.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:45
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, I think I'm sold on the Quest 2. I run VR on a 1070 (and an Ivy Bridge CPU) and everything up to and including Alyx has been playable. Not always at 1000fps of course but definitely good enough.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:47
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, I think I'm sold on the Quest 2. If your wifi is anything above 500mbps your wireless experience will be as good as wired
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Jul 26, 2022 18:49
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I can never find any reliable info on it, so figure it's easy enough to ask some goons in the know. Does the quest still require a facebook account? I've been interested in getting one but I said I'd wait until they finally got rid of that whole requirement.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:51
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lol I already got a friend offering me a referral link, sorry! But yeah no kidding on the price hike. Might run down to bestbuy after work to grab one. I don't have super high expectations for the 1070 but the flexibility to upgrade in the future is always good. Also what's the account situation these days? I was hearing some news that they're introducing quest accounts or something, so while you need an account with them, it doesn't have to be your literal facebook real name account or something? (Not that you couldn't already make an empty facebook, but i heard that came with risks?) e: lol beaten Sandwich Anarchist posted:If your wifi is anything above 500mbps your wireless experience will be as good as wired quote:Simultaneous 2.4GHz 450 Mbps and 5GHz 1300 Mbps connections for 1.75Gbps of total available bandwidth*
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Jul 26, 2022 18:52
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Yeah if you're thinking of getting a Quest 2, you need to buy one ASAP. you have until August 1st.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:55
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Oxyclean posted:lol I already got a friend offering me a referral link, sorry! But yeah no kidding on the price hike. Might run down to bestbuy after work to grab one. Yup that will be more than good enough.
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Jul 26, 2022 18:56
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Overlord K posted:I can never find any reliable info on it, so figure it's easy enough to ask some goons in the know. Does the quest still require a facebook account? I've been interested in getting one but I said I'd wait until they finally got rid of that whole requirement. Last I saw was that they were planning to roll out Meta accounts in August, so not quite yet. edit: Which in retrospect makes the price increase timing make more sense, if they're targeting the "I don't want this tied to my FB account" holdouts. NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jul 26, 2022 |
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Jul 26, 2022 18:59
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Just make a burner account with a temp email address
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Jul 26, 2022 19:01
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, I think I'm sold on the Quest 2. Your battery will be fine when teathered. I don't think it ever went below 100% even when playing hours of VR Chat. Anker makes very solid and reliable batteries. Even their smaller ones are enough of a weight offset that you don't need to break the bank. The official Quest USB cord is technically the highest quality but, again, Anker makes great ones for a fraction of the price. I can show a picture next time I'm home but I just lashed the battery to the lower part of the Kiwi strap and it balances everything nicely.
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Jul 26, 2022 19:29
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Very funny that a product everyone knew they were selling at a massive loss now has to get a massive price hike.
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Jul 26, 2022 19:41
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This is silly, VR isnt catching on and the Quest is one of the few things that goings up in users even if its like a tiny percent each month. Raising it by like $50 sure but a whole $100 is going to deter so many people.
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Jul 26, 2022 19:42
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, I think I'm sold on the Quest 2. Any decent battery with QC or w/e should keep you going long enough. Even the smaller ones for like the HTC wireless dealio will give you almost a second full battery or whatever. Oxyclean posted:What a nuisance, it doesn't look like the Kiwi strap is sold for a reasonable price on amazon canada? Inzombiac posted:Get the Kiwi strap, imo. It's got a knob to adjust spacing on the fly and is very comfy. I'm generally not one to recommend "hacks" or whatever but with you goons? No please get the DAS and some printed things to hook it up. Its worth the extra couple bucks over the other brand straps and you'll never have it break, ever. Lunchmeat Larry posted:I've been unable to play VR for a few weeks because my left eye stopped working (temporary, probably) so my depth perception is shot and it's just a deeply weird experience. Day to day life is fine, I'm just clumsier, but I think the added layer of the brain/eyes tricking themselves with VR is a step too far. I know a couple people with 1 eye that play VR. Its probably due to you having sight normally and your brain being "wtf" right now. I have a feeling you'd adjust over time if this was permanent.
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Just Chamber posted:This is silly, VR isnt catching on and the Quest is one of the few things that goings up in users even if its like a tiny percent each month. Raising it by like $50 sure but a whole $100 is going to deter so many people. I wonder if they're going to announce a $299 version that comes with no controllers and can only do hand tracking experiences. "Great for media! Even has a few games! Add controllers for $99 any time!"
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Jul 26, 2022 19:50
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njsykora posted:Very funny that a product everyone knew they were selling at a massive loss now has to get a massive price hike. The funny bit is that from what I can tell, they're still losing money on each one even after this price rise.
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Jul 26, 2022 19:59
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i'm not concerned for massive conglomerate meta's profits lol
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Jul 26, 2022 20:00
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mutata posted:The funny bit is that from what I can tell, they're still losing money on each one even after this price rise. And apparently beat saber is now included with the headsets?
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Jul 26, 2022 20:01
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boloney posted:I'm amazed that Beat Saber is so popular, considering how bad the song selection is. Yes, I want to dance to... dubstep?? And Green Day? Who buys beatsaber for the stock songs lol
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Jul 26, 2022 20:04
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Thoatse posted:Who buys beatsaber for the stock songs lol Most people?
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TIP posted:I wonder if they're going to announce a $299 version that comes with no controllers and can only do hand tracking experiences. Or some ad-supported bullshit
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Jul 26, 2022 20:09
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The 7th Guest posted:i'm not concerned for massive conglomerate meta's profits lol I would like them to lose even more money, tbh.
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TIP posted:I wonder if they're going to announce a $299 version that comes with no controllers and can only do hand tracking experiences. I would actually find it absolutely hilarious if they just tried doing the Oculus Go again.
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The 7th Guest posted:i'm not concerned for massive conglomerate meta's profits lol they are indisputably the only ones who are doing anything for VR right now. most people don't know these other random devices even exist. they are also an intensely lovely company and i hold zero sympathy for them
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mutata posted:I would like them to lose even more money, tbh. Not an empty quote
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I'm glad meta is actually pushing consumer VR past ultra-niche enthusiast territory and I hope they stay revenue neutral until real competitors hit the market Then I hope they lose a bunch of money
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From what I'm seeing in my Amazon, the 128gb model was out of stock since July 22nd, and the 256gb model since July 25th. They surely had been stopping the supply of devices in the last two weeks, in preparation for this. No chance to buy one now just before the price increase.
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Kwolok posted:That being said if your title is then successful and there is demand on other platforms, the investment to do that development is fairly trivial once the product is released (assuming you structured it well and didn't just hamfist it for the one VR headset you were developing for) and you would be a fool not to. The only reason successful titles that were released on Oculus aren't coming to other platforms is because the developers either developed themselves into a corner headset support wise, or they have incentives to not release elsewhere. The issue is not getting it working, it's performance optimizations, compatibility, troubleshooting, etc. A game that's exclusive to Quest has one or two hardware configurations and a limited range of software environments to support. Same for PSVR. If you wanted to buy all possible hardware configurations for both major "console VR" platforms you're in for around $2000, where a single PC VR configuration can easily be the same and to even cover the top 80% you're looking at four different headsets, a half dozen major families of CPU and GPU each, and around a dozen major OS environments without even getting in to third party software that may be directly or indirectly interfering with your application. I'm a PC diehard, my Xbox Series X and Switch have both seen less combined use than I have recorded in single PC games, but it's undeniable that it's a much harder platform to support than any kind of console. From a business perspective it's easy to see how it could be considered a losing proposition unless the developer believed the word-of-mouth from enthusiasts and potentially modders was worth it. Think about it similarly to a Windows game developer being asked to support Linux.
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