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Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



Robobot posted:

Wonder if all that needed to happen or if there could have been some sort of monetary fee paid?

Really curious to see what they thought would happen here. "I have four-wheel drive, I can go anywhere!"

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Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

It is a Jeep, I think rolling over is its natural state.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Where are Jeep people in the hierarchy of stupid drivers roughly sorted by vehicle type?

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Mister Speaker posted:

Where are Jeep people in the hierarchy of stupid drivers roughly sorted by vehicle type?

Fairly high I'll wager.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Varkk posted:

It is a Jeep, I think rolling over is its natural state.

They should have sent a Wrangler wrangler.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

Mister Speaker posted:

Where are Jeep people in the hierarchy of stupid drivers roughly sorted by vehicle type?

I'd place Jeep people just below "lifted truck in the suburbs that slows down to go over railroad tracks" guys but above "50-something year old man in a Miata" guys.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Where do boomers in C7s and C8s rank?

drunk mutt
Jul 5, 2011

I just think they're neat

TotalLossBrain posted:

Where do boomers in C7s and C8s rank?

Boomer spotted

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006


English canal boats are such an odd thing. I understand the canals were how they got stuff around before railroads. But railroads were invented yet the canals are still there for retired folks to putter around on like a floating RV park? It seems silly and indulgent but it's preserved a hundreds year old canal system with locks and tunnels so I guess that's a good thing.

Like you can still travel around the country like that as long as you know which historical society to call so a 90 year old man will come unlock a gate or fill a lock for you.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

drunk mutt posted:

Boomer spotted

Trap sprung, I'm actually a Jeep driver

drunk mutt
Jul 5, 2011

I just think they're neat

TotalLossBrain posted:

Trap sprung, I'm actually a Jeep driver

C:\User\jeep4lyfe\Documents\Same Picture.jpg

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

chrisgt posted:

I rented a house like this with missing grounds, I couldn't be barefoot at my metal desk. If I stood barefoot on the floor and held one meter probe in my hand, the one touched to the desk read 60vac.
I don't think it's because anything is leaking current to ground, if that was the case your monitor would trip a GFCI if you plugged it into one.

It's because the three-wire plug for your PC, monitor, etc., has, basically, two hots and a ground all parallel to each other. I say two hots because there's no concept of neutral if you don't have a ground.
The result is that through capacitive coupling the "ground" wire picks up 60vac. Now you have 60vac floating on everything that should be grounded, thus touching the USB ports or HDMI cable or something and also touching the actual, physical ground, will give you a shock.

What? The three prongs have a neutral that should be 0V relative to earth ground and a hot thats 120V and a ground that’s 0V unless you’re part of a voltage divider you’ll never be 60V.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://i.imgur.com/uz71ciC.mp4

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
60V on a floating earth pin sounds like leakage current from a Y-capacitor in an EMI filter (at least I think that's the only reason they're used). Y capacitors have 3 leads and 2 identical internal capacitors, and are used in noise filters (the capacitors are probably setup in such a way that there is inductance between the two caps and it forms an LC filter or something, I forget). The two capacitor elements (which are connected from live-earth and neutral-earth) form a capacitive voltage divider with the earth as the output node. Since the earth pin in the outlet was disconnected, it presents as a high impedance load (compared to the impedance of the Y capacitor), and so you get the full 120 VAC / 2 at the earth lead / chassis ground. If the monitor used the chassis ground in the shield for one or more of the ports, then it could connect up to the chassis ground of a connected PC. If that PC also had a floating earth, then the chassis would also be energized.

If the Y capacitor is functioning properly, the amount of leakage current probably shouldnt be harmful (even if its perceptible), but what the hell do i know!

edit: to be clear, a 3 prong NEMA 5-15 plug or outlet only has one live conductor, regardless of whether the ground is disconnected or not. the ground is only there for safety and noise reasons--the neutral conductor will always be at the same(ish) voltage as the ground conductor except in fault conditions, since the neutral is bonded to ground at some point (like the panel or meter, dont know the code lol). If the ground conductor is broken at some point then the neutral is still at the same voltage, nothing changes. What changes is that a ground-connected chassis is now floating, which means that if something shorts to a chassis then you can have an appliance or device with mains voltage on the chassis. Or, in the case of leakage, you can see voltage on a chassis that you dont expect (which is probably current limited and totally safe)

edit 2: added more details bc i realized this is the osha thread and not the electronics thread

Slanderer fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jul 28, 2022

SimonSays
Aug 4, 2006

Simon is the monkey's name

TotalLossBrain posted:

Where do boomers in C7s and C8s rank?

Wow, that's crazy, you've met my dad!?

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
https://i.imgur.com/taOC1oh.mp4

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Turn around and do it with the forks, you cowards

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012


I didn't know getting forklift certified was so combative

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



The Shortest Path posted:

I didn't know getting forklift certified was so combative

Well, that's only when there's a tie on the final.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Does the tourney winner qualify for a kiss from the lady of the house?

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/cyMg4BQ.mp4

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005


jfc

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...




Look, stairs suck. Anything we can do to avoid using them is a good thing.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010


When you know you’ve got a good moving friend.

Suspect A
Jan 1, 2015

Nap Ghost

DreadUnknown
Nov 4, 2020

Bird is the word.

Oh yeah if you like urbex and OSHA, you will probably love INFRA.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*




Is it weird that I suddenly want to sell off all my possessions, buy a narrowboat and cruise the canals of England?

E: I guess I could also buy a narrowboat and cruise the waterways of Finland

Neurophonic
May 2, 2009

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Is it weird that I suddenly want to sell off all my possessions, buy a narrowboat and cruise the canals of England?

E: I guess I could also buy a narrowboat and cruise the waterways of Finland



Not at all. Moorings can be pricey in certain locations, but you can get a pretty cosy modernised boat for ~£40k. With 5G mobile internet dongles, it’s a pretty viable option. I have several pals who did it, although I have wondered how they handle moving their car or van at the same time as the boat.

Don’t expect to get anywhere fast, though. It’s a multi-day trip to go most places - and you need a helper because you do the locks and stuff yourself, usually.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
Kitten rescued from Excavator Engine

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

holy poo poo :stonk:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Oh gently caress no.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Photoshop?

Please be photoshop

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

I kind of want to see the rest of the video because how are they getting it into that apartment ? Through the window?

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

CarForumPoster posted:

What? The three prongs have a neutral that should be 0V relative to earth ground and a hot thats 120V and a ground that’s 0V unless you’re part of a voltage divider you’ll never be 60V.

Well the discussion was that the outlet did not have the ground wire connected. Therefore the ground wire in a cord becomes floating. And if any energy is induced into this floating ground wire by ground leakage in equipment, the fact that wires next to each other capacitively couple, EMI/Y caps, etc. you'll see voltage on the ground. Thus you may see voltage between the equipment case and the actual, IRL, ground.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Hollismason posted:

I kind of want to see the rest of the video because how are they getting it into that apartment ? Through the window?
yep

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Mmmh I've seen a few morons blow these apart even when placed where they are supposed to be (directly in front of the barrel).
This guy seems to think it's a target?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Humphreys posted:

Oh gently caress no.

It absolutely amazes me that they thought it would be a good idea to have those two blokes standing on the platform!

Like, you have a couch right there. Sit down for gently caress's sake!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/Tuckthetech/status/1552053680492498949?s=20&t=UIbH8vOlygiPtgq8X7WMyw

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Oh poo poo, the tourists are on their way right now, we've gotta go for total obliteration! No, don't worry about the shoes, I said we're going total!

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The_Hatt
Apr 29, 2005

DreadUnknown posted:

Oh yeah if you like urbex and OSHA, you will probably love INFRA.

I'm gonna echo this and thank the people upthread who recommended INFRA, it's a game I never knew I wanted so bad.

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