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-Blackadder- posted:This is what I hate the most. As much of an rear end in a top hat as he's been in obstructing the Biden agenda, Manchin very clearly walks around Congress wearing a beer hat with a giant blinking "For Sale" sign on it, to the point where I almost blame Biden more simply for not being more adept at figuring out ways to pay Manchin off. Nope, it’s still being a stooge for capital. Look at her donations, and look into the future and ask what do-nothing jobs those industries could give her. Our enemies are entirely apparent and operate shamelessly in front of us, and they all are servants of a death-desiring algorithm known as Capitalism, fka Moloch.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I think you're putting the cart before the horse. Bourgeois economics does not try to explain trends in order to guide decision making, it works backwards from the decisions it wants to make in order to justify them. I was in a meeting just the day with the highest execs in my company, and one asked why we couldn't raise prices higher to match inflation, and the response was that would hurt sales because people aren't making more money. Immediately followed with a comment to how incredibly profitable we are. Everyone knows whats up.
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-Blackadder- posted:This is what I hate the most. As much of an rear end in a top hat as he's been in obstructing the Biden agenda, Manchin very clearly walks around Congress wearing a beer hat with a giant blinking "For Sale" sign on it, to the point where I almost blame Biden more simply for not being more adept at figuring out ways to pay Manchin off. She is a veritable mad bomber, chuckling vacantly as she clicks the various detonator switches on her suicide vest, wondering in anticipation equal to her victims' fear if this one is gonna be the one that makes her go boom or not. click. click. click.
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selec posted:Nope, it’s still being a stooge for capital. Look at her donations, and look into the future and ask what do-nothing jobs those industries could give her. Yeah, it's basically this 90% of the time. Sinema does have some moments that are genuinely baffling and not in service of herself or her donors, but the vast majority of the time she is just balancing how much she can get away with doing and how much she can support her donors. There have been multiple investigative pieces about Sinema's "heel turn" and how she has a fundraising network that is outside of the party and traditional Democratic interest groups and feels empowered by that. She also apparently thinks it is legitimately good politics to be branded "a maverick" who is upsetting their party like John McCain.
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So once she's voted out of office, what are people thinking Sinema's post-senator career will be? Token "liberal" on various Fox News shows agreeing with everything the host says, or just going straight to OANN and going full avatar of chaos?
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Jaxyon posted:I was in a meeting just the day with the highest execs in my company, and one asked why we couldn't raise prices higher to match inflation, and the response was that would hurt sales because people aren't making more money. Any C-suite exec who doesn't understand that they're already charging the amount of money that puts the most dollars in their pocket deserves to be fired
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Randalor posted:So once she's voted out of office, what are people thinking Sinema's post-senator career will be? Token "liberal" on various Fox News shows agreeing with everything the host says, or just going straight to OANN and going full avatar of chaos? Sinema legitimately thinks she is going to be the first woman President according to several of her former staff. They said she thinks that the fact that she won all her political races despite doing the "wrong" thing (former Green party member, being openly bisexual, becoming a hard "moderate," etc.) is proof that her brand works. She has a donor network outside of the party/traditional special interest groups and an "independent brand" that emphasizes "ignoring partisan politics in favor of getting things done" that voters want.
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Her job of sowing distrust in bourgeois structures of governance by revealing their profoundly anti-democratic nature and structural inability to respond to crises in time to prevent harm now complete, she will return to her roots of left-wing accelerationist activism She'll be on a bunch of boards where she will trade access to her rolodex for insider information and a large salary when she's not giving speeches at country clubs and economic institutes. She used to think she'd be president but she used to believe a lot of things if you go by what she tells people
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Devor posted:Any C-suite exec who doesn't understand that they're already charging the amount of money that puts the most dollars in their pocket deserves to be fired He a founder. But there are also a lot of real dumb c-suite execs.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/1552734282325557248 The outcome was expected. That leadership couldn't enforce the whip after the appalling and undecorus acts by the Senate Dems, on the other hand...
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I said yesterday that it looks like the IRA would get the U.S. about 70% of the way to compliance with the U.N. plan and Biden's camapaign promise. But, it turns out I was slightly off and it's actually a much niiiice-r number. https://twitter.com/robinsonmeyer/status/1552668768203145219
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I said yesterday that it looks like the IRA would get the U.S. about 70% of the way to compliance with the U.N. plan and Biden's camapaign promise. Nice
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Sinema legitimately thinks she is going to be the first woman President according to several of her former staff. They said she thinks that the fact that she won all her political races despite doing the "wrong" thing (former Green party member, being openly bisexual, becoming a hard "moderate," etc.) is proof that her brand works. She has a donor network outside of the party/traditional special interest groups and an "independent brand" that emphasizes "ignoring partisan politics in favor of getting things done" that voters want. Also can candidates really succeed with an entirely corporate donor network? You still need people to actually vote for you, and I can't imagine anyone wanting to this point, like she may have money, but she has literally no voting base.
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-Blackadder- posted:Good Lord. I can't remember it, but I could swear there's a term for this, something along the same lines as the banality of evil, about how big world altering events often sardonically hinge on small, idiotic and arbitrary decisions. She thinks voters will reward her maverick-y and independent behavior. According to her former staff, she thinks she can win a presidential primary with a large minority of Democrats and an overwhelming margin among independents.
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Susan Collins says she will be "forced" to oppose gay marriage if Democrats pass the reconciliation bill next week. https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1552740956738359296
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As well as good news, that is a NICE.NICE number.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Susan Collins says she will be "forced" to oppose gay marriage if Democrats pass the reconciliation bill next week.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Susan Collins says she will be "forced" to oppose gay marriage if Democrats pass the reconciliation bill next week.
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She's also just covering for her inability to ever whip up enough support.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Susan Collins says she will be "forced" to oppose gay marriage if Democrats pass the reconciliation bill next week. Oh no. Susan Collins is enabling the removal of rights from more people. What a sudden surprise. If only we had some warning that she might do this like voting for judges that lie under oath.
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R's blocked the PACT Act for veterans as well. Kennedy was on Fox talking about how the Dems made them all look like suckers. They're feeling humiliated by the Schumer/Manchin gambit and hitting back on other legislation.https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1552416287887867906 https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1552640775585947648?s=20&t=xpNj2N9IArctYdKs-59ZhA https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1552439638585135104 -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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"We love our troops! What, help ones that got sick? Hell no". How many of the senators that voted no are up for re-election in a few months? I thought now would be the time they would be caring about optics.
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GOP voters oppose helping people less fortunate than them and support petty revenge so theres really no downside
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-Blackadder- posted:R's blocked the PACT Act for veterans as well. Kennedy was on Fox talking about how the Dems made them all look like suckers. They're feeling humiliated by the Schumer/Manchin gambit and hitting back on other legislation. "LOOK AT WHAT YOU MADE US DO THE TROOPS!" They weren't going to vote for it anyway
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One of the big talking points is too many jobs not enough workers, but this article was posted elsewhere. Unfortunately my usual tricks of getting past paywalls or log in is not working so I have not read. Maybe someone here will have better luck or has access? https://twitter.com/pdacosta/status/1552685372991324162?t=F-xM41_yDMgV0h4Evs3SIQ&s=19 Edit: I guess the article text is in the html of the webpage Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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That Wu Tang sweater. This really is the perfect image for the GOP.
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On second thought this is more like some abusive spouse bullshit where you paid bills and bought clothing for the kids without their knowledge so they torch your credit card
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Dubar posted:GOP voters oppose helping people less fortunate than them and support petty revenge so theres really no downside How many veterans are also R voters? You may be able to discourage them from voting by saying "Hey, you know how you can't afford your cancer treatment? This fucker is why. He wants you to die."
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Randalor posted:How many veterans are also R voters? You may be able to discourage them from voting by saying "Hey, you know how you can't afford your cancer treatment? This fucker is why. He wants you to die." They watched Trump poo poo all over darling media veteran John McCain for years and only loved him more for it. They don't give a toss. The GOP could punch them in the mouth all day and they'd just say "It's ok, they were aiming for a liberal they saw behind me, I'm sure! I had too many teeth anyway."
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"Employment rate" is not a good indicator of economic health in a world where minimum wage is increasingly below the required standard of living. An index of expendable income would be much better, and especially if that index was compared to rate of activity versus rate of hoarding. And if you broke it out by tax bracket. Sooner or later this country will have to contend with the idea that one or more classes are in a recession while others are not. Mass averages are lovely.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I said yesterday that it looks like the IRA would get the U.S. about 70% of the way to compliance with the U.N. plan and Biden's camapaign promise.
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Randalor posted:How many veterans are also R voters? You may be able to discourage them from voting by saying "Hey, you know how you can't afford your cancer treatment? This fucker is why. He wants you to die." Trump literally called them losers and saluted a NK general. Them being mad about minorities is still more important to them.
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It sounds like as of now Putin isn't biting at the hostage exchange. CNN:quote:The Russian Foreign Ministry said Thursday that Lavrov would "pay attention" to the request for the call with Blinken when "time permits," but said the foreign minister's schedule was currently busy. Epic High Five posted:She'll be on a bunch of boards where she will trade access to her rolodex for insider information and a large salary when she's not giving speeches at country clubs and economic institutes. She used to think she'd be president but she used to believe a lot of things if you go by what she tells people -Blackadder- posted:https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1552640775585947648?s=20&t=xpNj2N9IArctYdKs-59ZhA
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Zero_Grade posted:Does she even have much of a rolodex? She's a (likely) one-term senator who's hated by both sides. I'm not going to argue it's impossible for her to get corporate handouts as a thank-you, but I could also easily see them going 'lol new phone who dis'. Like, at best her rightwing welfare circuit ceiling is somewhere around Martha McSally and Scott Brown. "Former Senator" has a certain level of cachet even if you accomplished nothing of note. However, there's a good chance that she'll end up so hated that being known to associate with her becomes a PR liability, which would ideally scare a lot of cars off the gravy train
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General question to the thread: Why do you believe that Sinema does the things she does? What is her motivation?
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haveblue posted:"Former Senator" has a certain level of cachet even if you accomplished nothing of note. However, there's a good chance that she'll end up so hated that being known to associate with her becomes a PR liability, which would ideally scare a lot of cars off the gravy train always remember the saga of Trump's awful DHS secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, the subject of this Atlantic article on how she will never work again. six months later, https://twitter.com/TheAtlanticPR/status/1175081178220716037 the same loving organization was hiring her to speak at an Ideas Festival on their behalf. these people do not have to worry about failing downwards.
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Sephyr posted:They watched Trump poo poo all over darling media veteran John McCain for years and only loved him more for it. They don't give a toss. Jaxyon posted:Trump literally called them losers and saluted a NK general. When was the last time something affecting VA funding came up that actually failed (rather than just Dems going "oh, we probably don't have enough votes? Okay, we won't vote on it")? This instance direct affects them, and if there's one thing that's been shown to piss Rs off, it's telling one "This directly affects you in a negative way" (or making them think something does). I'm not saying it'll cause all of the veterans to not vote, but considering how close some elections have been, even discouraging a dozen or two across the country from voting this particular election can tip some scales, and the Democrats can use all the help they can get right now.
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