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For anyone who wants to get caught up I don't think this has been posted anywhere else yet but the mod discord has been working on two things, a document to cover the story so far/any inconsistencies in the facts, and their own mod to see if it can be replicated fully here's the doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCmYM92MasXggBMgVQ9emV0gyzi8s2tXd85svQIaOuQ
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!Klams posted:I remember reading about a game that was like some top down 2D thing that people had played for years before someone worked out a way to get into a COLLOSAL secret area that had loads of really weird out there messages (I think on computer terminals?) that seemed to be talking about a real life cult? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I remember it being somewhat inconclusive and I'd love to know if anything ever came of it? Could always have been a hoax I fell for, too. (I seem to remember it was somehow linked to Kanye or something, but that bit might not be right). The Human Cow posted:Here's a neat thing I found today about a hidden area in a game called Kanye Quest.
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!Klams posted:I remember reading about a game that was like some top down 2D thing that people had played for years before someone worked out a way to get into a COLLOSAL secret area that had loads of really weird out there messages (I think on computer terminals?) that seemed to be talking about a real life cult? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I remember it being somewhat inconclusive and I'd love to know if anything ever came of it? Could always have been a hoax I fell for, too. (I seem to remember it was somehow linked to Kanye or something, but that bit might not be right). theres a fairly expansive set of hidden ARG areas based around an "ascension cult" or something in the otherwise satirical rap-based RPG maker game kanye quest but theres zero evidence of a connection to any real people or events afaik e:f;b
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Have they checked to see if it's connected to save files somehow? Maybe having a Nier remaster/FFXIV save makes the door accessible? I don't even know if it could work like that, just throwing the idea out there.
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I was very confused why you empty-quoted me until I realized I had posted that in the wrong thread. Still technically fit the theme!
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I follow both threads but everything in my bookmarks kind of blurs together, and I was wondering why I remember reading the quoted version of the post before the original
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SkeletonHero posted:Have they checked to see if it's connected to save files somehow? Maybe having a Nier remaster/FFXIV save makes the door accessible? I don't even know if it could work like that, just throwing the idea out there. You couldn't quite use actual saves for that, since they're completely different games structurally (FFXIV is an MMO, there's no 'save file' stored locally), but it probably wouldn't be completely implausible to hack together 'if FFXIV is installed on this PS4, unlock this'. But that wouldn't be it, because Nier players and FFXIV players are enough of a cross-section (especially after their crossover event) that if that's all they'd have had to do, then someone would've already hit it. A more plausible crossover, although likely also one that would've come up before now if it were true, are Nier Automata and Nier Replicant saves; the two games haven't been on the same console until recently.
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Cleretic posted:You couldn't quite use actual saves for that, since they're completely different games structurally (FFXIV is an MMO, there's no 'save file' stored locally), Well, not quite in the normal save file sense, but there definitely saved files from playing FFXIV. If you knew the format (and location, and encoding, and...), you can derive some information, like what items you were carrying around or your equipment and the like, since the ordering of your inventory items and the like is stored clientside. (Not the actual items themselves, of course.) Not that it changes the point much.  VERY COOL MAN posted:theres a fairly expansive set of hidden ARG areas based around an "ascension cult" or something in the otherwise satirical rap-based RPG maker game kanye quest but theres zero evidence of a connection to any real people or events afaik that whole thing was just weird.
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Something I saw in a video analysis of the nier stuff that I didn't seen mentioned searching the last few pages. There's no arrow icon over the items in the 3 videos posted so far. Leading the person making the video to point out that makes it seem much more likely this is being published from a dev build. That, along with the way the English on reddit is being used, and the time zone of the posts (7PM JP, 6 AM US) makes it seem very likely it's just a marketing thing from the team. Someone in the comments mentioned the date that the reddit account was made is also "salt day" (I don't know enough to know how significant that is). Here is the video, if anyone wants to check that out for a better explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqcgzmEmtW0
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Zamujasa posted:Well, not quite in the normal save file sense, but there definitely saved files from playing FFXIV. If you knew the format (and location, and encoding, and...), you can derive some information, like what items you were carrying around or your equipment and the like, since the ordering of your inventory items and the like is stored clientside. (Not the actual items themselves, of course.) Is this some loadbearing stuff from the original FF14? Because that sounds like a really dumb solution, especially since MMOS are popular choices for stuff like internet cafe gaming, so having to reorder your inventory every time sounds like a garbage solution.
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I never really figured it'd make an impact since sorting is trivial, and you can upload/download your configuration/saves in the menu before connecting.Hrist posted:Something I saw in a video analysis of the nier stuff that I didn't seen mentioned searching the last few pages. There's no arrow icon over the items in the 3 videos posted so far. Leading the person making the video to point out that makes it seem much more likely this is being published from a dev build. That, along with the way the English on reddit is being used, and the time zone of the posts (7PM JP, 6 AM US) makes it seem very likely it's just a marketing thing from the team. Someone in the comments mentioned the date that the reddit account was made is also "salt day" (I don't know enough to know how significant that is). This all makes me wish I knew more about the game so I could follow what's going on better.
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Zamujasa posted:This all makes me wish I knew more about the game so I could follow what's going on better.  The doc posted earlier in the thread shows how the videos are inconsistent with stuff like lighting and fog, which definitely makes me lean towards weird ARG since the OP claims his PS4 never had internet to update anything (even though it is shown to have an ethernet cable plugged in).
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Zamujasa posted:This all makes me wish I knew more about the game so I could follow what's going on better. I played through Automata, and one of my friends is obsessed with Nier/Drakengard. And I honestly still don't get much of it. As far as I understand, alot of the overall series connection is kind of cryptic to begin with. I personally LOVED the setting and concept for Automata. It's the only one I was interested enough in to play. But once I played through all the main endings, I just didn't care at all for the story. I'm excited for the mystery, because it's genuinely interesting to see. But there's a little too much pointing towards marketing / manufactured attention. And that's just disappointing if it turns out to be true.
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VERY COOL MAN posted:theres a fairly expansive set of hidden ARG areas based around an "ascension cult" or something in the otherwise satirical rap-based RPG maker game kanye quest but theres zero evidence of a connection to any real people or events afaik Amazing, thanks yes, exactly this!
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So, we've got an answer to the Nier Automata stuff. And I think it's actually the least plausible result. https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1552829263694270464 It actually is that a modder (or group of them) cracked how to do ALL of this, including new geometry, enemies and script, and rather than just announce it, spent who-knows-how-long secretly building all of that just to reveal that it's possible before releasing the tools they used to do it. Holy poo poo.
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I mean, no, being a mod was always more plausible than anything bar a cut area, which became increasingly less sensible as more of it was shown. The only reason people discarded the mod angle was other modders' claim that it was impossible, which says a lot about trusting what people say on the internet.
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Chev posted:I mean, no, being a mod was always more plausible than anything bar a cut area, which became increasingly less sensible as more of it was shown. The only reason people discarded the mod angle was other modders' claim that it was impossible, which says a lot about trusting what people say on the internet. the thing is that as far as most people knew, it was impossible. this is all brand new to the modding community and most everyone else
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you can mod a game but you cant mod the hole in my heart
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verbal enema posted:you can mod a game but you cant mod the hole in my heart Actually I'm pretty sure surgery has ways to do exactly that
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An Actual Princess posted:the thing is that as far as most people knew, it was impossible. this is all brand new to the modding community and most everyone else Sort of, there have been tools to do stuff like this in early stages of development for years, the progress was just really slow, in the last like 6 months this small 3 person team iterated on this and made breakthroughs while everyone else was working with the same old kinda crap tools, so basically the modders who weren't in on it didn't really think it was impossible as much as with the state everything was in at the time no one would be able to do it with what they had but there were ideas on how it would work if any progress had been made, they just didn't know progress HAD been made behind their backs lol.
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50/50 they accept they got played or they go for “I just didn’t want to spoil the surprise I totally knew it was possible”
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This was always the most plausible outcome but the community just really, really wanted to believe that this was Yoko Taro himself announcing a remake of a game like Drakengard 3 that no one played the first time around.
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ShimaTetsuo posted:This was always the most plausible outcome but the community just really, really wanted to believe that this was Yoko Taro himself announcing a remake of a game like Drakengard 3 that no one played the first time around. I think the thing that knocked us off-course was that, with a Nier Automata Switch port in the works, it's absolutely plausible that they might be teasing new content in that. And even Yosuke Saito thought it sounded like a very Yoko Taro thing to do. Any other game in a similar position? No way something like this was gonna be official. Nier Automata three months ago, when absolutely nothing was known to be going on? Not a chance they'd do this out of the blue. But specifically Nier Automata, when a port with confirmed new content (albeit just costumes) is on the horizon? That's just enough planets aligning to buy it as official guerilla marketing.
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this reminds me of the time people thought city of heroes' code was lost forever only to find there was an ultra-secret private server that a small group of people had been playing on for years, except the reaction here seems to be more "haha, neat" and less people getting the knives out
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Blockhouse posted:this reminds me of the time people thought city of heroes' code was lost forever only to find there was an ultra-secret private server that a small group of people had been playing on for years, except the reaction here seems to be more "haha, neat" and less people getting the knives out Tbf I'm still a bit mad about that one because now I'm forever gonna have the hope that anytime someone can just drop the news in my lap that "no, we had the Marvel Heroes source code running on a Gateway somewhere in a closet for ages and you can play it again, secretly best girl, have fun forever", because it happened once before.
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this is like the poo poo with the ~secret thirteenth colossus~ in sotc lol
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Back when you had to physically explore the game world it was a lot funner. Sotc and San Andreas were a blast for that
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Blockhouse posted:this reminds me of the time people thought city of heroes' code was lost forever only to find there was an ultra-secret private server that a small group of people had been playing on for years, except the reaction here seems to be more "haha, neat" and less people getting the knives out In their defense, while private servers and the like are rarely hit by a legal takedown even for live games, City of Heroes' publisher actually is litigious enough that they probably would've issued takedowns if they were open about it back when the CoH shutdown was recent. Did they have to keep it secret as long as they did? Probably not, but they definitely had to keep it secret at first, and it's hard to know when the coast is clear on this sort of thing.
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Cleretic posted:In their defense, while private servers and the like are rarely hit by a legal takedown even for live games, City of Heroes' publisher actually is litigious enough that they probably would've issued takedowns if they were open about it back when the CoH shutdown was recent. I get that but I also get the perspective that all these major voices in the community going "yeah, it's gone forever no one has the code sorry guys" while simultaneously playing the game they say no longer exists in secret feels like some two-faced bullshit Of course none of that matters now and one might say it's a little too easy to play CoH these days
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I still wonder what the exact overlap is between the people who declared a weird (racist  ) blood feud with NCsoft for pulling the plug on the game and the people who went completely apoplectic at there being a highly secretive private server they weren't personally privy to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NREzIye0cE 2 hours of in depth documentation of Hondo
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Farg posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NREzIye0cE It's 2022 and I'm watching a new documentary on AHL and Hondo. Wow.
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Farg posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NREzIye0cE ty for this post, I really enjoyed the video.
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Farg posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NREzIye0cE gently caress, I just watched a 4 hour long lecture on animorphs and now I'm gonna watch this. If only I had the ability to focus on and retain useful information instead.
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field balm posted:gently caress, I just watched a 4 hour long lecture on animorphs Link, please? I haven't revisited that series since it finished, but by god I read them all.
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