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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
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projecthalaxy posted:

Theres an old Atlas nuclear missile silo for sale in Kansas. Here's a pic of the above ground portion:



And the plans for the 6700 square feet below:



A steal at 380,000. Live your underground dreams! Become mildly irradiated in one of the rooms!

i've actually heard that the fuel they used is significantly neurotoxic and has to be extensively remediated if you want to spend any time living in the old defunct ones

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

a wall of boomerangs

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

NotPerfect posted:

Everyone is acting that living underground is doomed to fail, but there are good examples of it being possible. One is the town Coober Pedy in Australia. Primarily known for it's opal mining, the community live underground due to the heat. It's a tourist trap but it doesn't look a like either a flood or fire hazard.





also the common material is sandstone

I'm not a geologist or civil engineer or whatever but I don't think there are all that many places in the world where you have elevation high above sea level and also have arid climate, and permeable sedimentary rock that is easy to excavate and that will never have any drainage problems for the foreseeable future

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i've actually heard that the fuel they used is significantly neurotoxic and has to be extensively remediated if you want to spend any time living in the old defunct ones

Now that's a movie

pygmy tyrant
Nov 25, 2005

*not a small business owner


wtf is that a gas range?

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

pygmy tyrant posted:

wtf is that a gas range?

probably propane, remote areas are usually best served by getting as much as they can onto liquid propane gas so as to avoid huge electricity bills and electricity infrastructure going into the town.

pygmy tyrant
Nov 25, 2005

*not a small business owner

yeah but most remote areas aren't built in places with inherent ventilation issues

It probably hasn't killed anyone yet so hot takes inside the thread. still seems like a bad idea to me!

pygmy tyrant has issued a correction as of 03:31 on Jul 28, 2022

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

pygmy tyrant posted:

yeah but most remote areas aren't built in places with inherent ventilation issues

It probably hasn't killed anyone yet so hot takes inside the thread. still seems like a bad idea to me!

I imagine it probably has a decent hood vent and some of the other pictures seem like they have sky lights so I don’t think it’s particularly deep or hard to ventilate

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Should have used Cappadocia as a cooler example

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

the Derinkuyu underground city is way cooler

/e: oh it's in Cappadocia lol

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

NotPerfect posted:

Everyone is acting that living underground is doomed to fail, but there are good examples of it being possible. One is the town Coober Pedy in Australia. Primarily known for it's opal mining, the community live underground due to the heat. It's a tourist trap but it doesn't look a like either a flood or fire hazard.

https://indaily.com.au/news/2022/07/22/sa-town-is-the-dust-pollution-capital-of-australia/

quote:

SA town is the dust pollution capital of Australia
EXCLUSIVE: A regional SA town has Australia’s highest level of dust pollution which exceeds a United Nations recommended maximum, according to a national environment report.

The State of the Environment report released this week found that Coober Pedy has the highest population-weighted PM2.5 concentrations in Australia — which means particles 2.5 microns in diameter, so small that 20 can fit across the width of a human hair.

These particles, which can include anything from outback dust to traffic pollution and bushfire smoke, are tiny enough to get into the lungs, and have been connected with a range of health issues.

Coober Pedy features concentrations of 11.7 μg/m3 — well above United Nations recommendations of a maximum of 8 μg/m3.

edit: the best thing about Coober Pedy is that the name literally means “white man in a hole”

Vladimir Poutine has issued a correction as of 03:57 on Jul 28, 2022

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

capadoccia is really damp in the rocks and it gets pretty hot and pretty cold. I wouldn’t want to live in there.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
i volunteered to be a rifter but apparently we aren't dependent on geothermal power yet

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

mawarannahr posted:

capadoccia is really damp in the rocks and it gets pretty hot and pretty cold. I wouldn’t want to live in there.

lol

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


those balloons fall down a lot!

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Vladimir Poutine posted:

https://indaily.com.au/news/2022/07/22/sa-town-is-the-dust-pollution-capital-of-australia/

edit: the best thing about Coober Pedy is that the name literally means “white man in a hole

Lmao that loving rules

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
the average underground settlement would be less like white man in a hole and more like centralia

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/bucephalus424/status/1551751760292638720

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i've actually heard that the fuel they used is significantly neurotoxic and has to be extensively remediated if you want to spend any time living in the old defunct ones

Fortunately for me, I'm already infected with a much more significant neurotoxin: liberalism. :fsmug:

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

NotPerfect posted:

Everyone is acting that living underground is doomed to fail, but there are good examples of it being possible. One is the town Coober Pedy in Australia. Primarily known for it's opal mining, the community live underground due to the heat. It's a tourist trap but it doesn't look a like either a flood or fire hazard.















i wanna lock smythe in an underground housing complex with his young wives so that he mods c-spam more often. will allow him a yearly trade-off of wife, as they tend to age and become disagreeable

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

papa horny michael posted:

i wanna lock smythe in an underground housing complex with his young wives so that he mods c-spam more often. will allow him a yearly trade-off of wife, as they tend to age and become disagreeable

man what

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
my bad, i just watched under the silver lake and have been awake for 36 hours straight

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I think that’s just a form of suicide in Under the Silver Lake. They’re not planning on leaving.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
yeah, my thinking was i'm not a monster. only smythe is locked in forever

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Are they allowed to post?

cmndstab
May 20, 2006

Huge Internet Celebrity!
The main reason people live underground in Coober Pedy is because the summer is so loving hot. It averages around 36 celcius during summer (around 100 fahrenheit) whereas underground it's about 24 degrees year round.

I went there once back in the 90s. It was kind of tacky but nice enough. There are no other western settlements around for hundreds of kilometres so it's hard to avoid.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
Cowards. Just waste gigawatts of electricity acing every single structure intended to ever hold human life forever like Arizona

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/JewishChron/status/1552950872589615104?t=7ARD6cotAP5ZA9jLO3fMug&s=19

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

"Just another genocide" is a good band name or username, character limits be damned

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he



*M&S advert sax solo*

This is not just a genocide

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lol

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002


@BaronessDeech

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Is she referring to lack of support for the occupation?

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Pablo Nergigante posted:

@BaronessDeech

i checked because my dumb rear end thought it was a g i joe reference, somehow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Deech,_Baroness_Deech

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

The entire controversy around whether the Holocaust killed 6 million Jews, 11 million civilians, or nearly 20 million victims of German bloodlust is obscene and it grosses me out. Do yourself a favor and read the Wikipedia entry on the Holocaust one of these days, you have to get 75% through the entry before they talk about poles/Soviet pows/lgbt/Roma/etc (not counting a little vague blurb in the intro and a short section about “this is only Jewish victims and everyone else is just part of the Holocaust extended universe”)

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
It's honestly hosed up how little these things are taught. After graduating from highschool, which is more or less as much history an average person will be taught, I was only aware of the Holocaust and the Rwandan genocide in the basest terms. Not a word about Churchill, or the Irish "famine", or any other relatively recent event.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Wondering what that "root cause" is supposed to be in her mind.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



I think it's an important question of historiography, and can be discussed in an appropriate way. But that article seems to be equating Nazi anti-Semitism with Palestinian anti-Semitism, which is a terrible comparison.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

HashtagGirlboss posted:

The entire controversy around whether the Holocaust killed 6 million Jews, 11 million civilians, or nearly 20 million victims of German bloodlust is obscene and it grosses me out. Do yourself a favor and read the Wikipedia entry on the Holocaust one of these days, you have to get 75% through the entry before they talk about poles/Soviet pows/lgbt/Roma/etc (not counting a little vague blurb in the intro and a short section about “this is only Jewish victims and everyone else is just part of the Holocaust extended universe”)

Yeah it's weird. We have the pink triangle as a queer symbol because were going to the loving camps too but nobody seems to be able to remember that

Let's not forget the books the Nazis really liked burning were sexology journals about queers and transes

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Also the extermination of the disabled that was first of them all.

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