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"We've Been Trying To Reach You About Your Car's Extended Warranty"
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Jul 29, 2022 14:40
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`Nemesis posted:
Anyone with any insight--or even anecdotal poo poo--on whether this is yet another moral panic the police are using to justify their existence, or if there's really One Weird Trick to stealing Korean cars and lol chaos reigns?
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Jul 29, 2022 14:52
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Anyone with any insight--or even anecdotal poo poo--on whether this is yet another moral panic the police are using to justify their existence, or if there's really One Weird Trick to stealing Korean cars and lol chaos reigns? It originated here in Milwaukee, and it's a huge problem. Kia's and Hyundais didn't have immobilizers until 2022 models, so any of their cars that is started with a key can be stolen like this: break plastic off steering column, twist a metal nub on what remains of the ignition, drive away. a usb flash drive works perfectly to manipulate the ignition once the plastic is removed or broken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTrLyqL_nw
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Jul 29, 2022 14:57
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It does kind of look like you can start the affected models just by bridging some contacts with a suitably shaped chunk of metal, like a USB plug - and if it really is that simple it sounds like a bit of a problem. You still need to get into the car, of course. A quick skim of Google didn't find any clear documentation of exactly what the problem is, so I hope someone else can find a good reference.
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Jul 29, 2022 15:02
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My friend literally starts her car with a USB drive because her Hyundai was stolen and she can't get parts for it, months of parts backlogs for ignition components. If you break the rear window out and open the rear door, the "alarm" doesn't sound on any of their cars either. Edit: I can get a picture or video of how she starts her car next time i see if there is interest `Nemesis fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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Jul 29, 2022 15:06
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2022?! Are immobilizers not mandatory in the US? They've been required here for over two decades now.
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Jul 29, 2022 15:11
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can't live free under such massive regulatory burdens
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Jul 29, 2022 15:13
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I genuinely thought they were mandatory like at 2000. Color me surprised. To contribute,  
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Jul 29, 2022 15:18
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`Nemesis posted:can't live free under such massive regulatory burdens And yet this is the country that enacted 85mph speedometers and automatic seatbelts e: also the country that got rid of them
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Jul 29, 2022 16:16
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I remember learning immobilizers were mandatory in the US since 1998 but it turns out that was two other big markets (Germany and UK) requiring them. Everyone added it to their ignitions to keep the SKUs aligned so we tended to see them introduced around that model year. I’m pretty sure you got a good discount on comprehensive insurance here for having one.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:30
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Immobilizers definitely weren't mandatory at least as late as 2002; my TJ doesn't have one. You can also unzip your way into the drat thing so I don't even bother locking the doors.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:33
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Jeeps and Dodge Pickups were the hot things to steal around here. My 1999 Cherokee was stolen out of my driveway 5-6 years ago.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:00
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lol you could steal a superduty with a flathead screwdriver and a piece of swiss cheese.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:10
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Kinda relevant but I could use the key from my 2002 Corolla to unlock the drivers side of our 90's? work Hiace, and then start it. Wouldn't work on the passenger side, sliding door or tailgate though.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:25
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Lol, agree with the other poster that this whole thing feels so much like an urban legend. Would love some video/pic confirmation that this works. When I have time, gonna go check out snopes Were they trying to patch that huge tire by just putting many many tire plugs into it? And in the sidewall no less lol. I guess they did it…
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Jul 29, 2022 19:16
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I suspect that's a field-expedient repair just to get it rolling and holding air just long enough to drive to wherever they can replace the tire.
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Jul 29, 2022 19:51
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quote:A survey of several Milwaukee area police departments revealed just how sharp the increase was in 2021. the article is paywalled, but just search for kia thefts in Milwaukee and you'll find tons of stories about it.
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Jul 29, 2022 20:54
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Data Graham posted:drat I wish that had sound. Right? You can see that they're barking at the camera. It's probably adorable. `Nemesis posted:
Well. Glad we sold out Kia, then? (I'm in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, which includes Arlington.)
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Jul 29, 2022 21:59
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`Nemesis posted:
Some 12 year old is going to lose their job over this.
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Jul 29, 2022 22:30
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slidebite posted:I genuinely thought they were mandatory like at 2000. Color me surprised. They weren't mandatory in Canada until 2007. 2005 F-250s still didn't have them in Canada.
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Jul 29, 2022 22:32
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I briefly worked at a Honda dealer in the early '00s and I can tell you that stealing a 90's Honda was comically easy and definitely not an overblown urban legend.
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Jul 30, 2022 01:31
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slothrop posted:Kinda relevant but I could use the key from my 2002 Corolla to unlock the drivers side of our 90's? work Hiace, and then start it. Wouldn't work on the passenger side, sliding door or tailgate though. I bought an 89 vw. And then my dad bought a 92. We both had the same 2 digit key code, which made moving cars easy.
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Jul 30, 2022 03:11
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Guess that caliper is done finally. Started pulling hard right and shaking the whole truck a mile or two from the house, finished the drive at 15mph. Now I need to determine which brake option this thing has then replace the whole front brake system, did the brake master last winter.
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Jul 30, 2022 11:23
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NitroSpazzz posted:Guess that caliper is done finally. Started pulling hard right and shaking the whole truck a mile or two from the house, finished the drive at 15mph. Now I need to determine which brake option this thing has then replace the whole front brake system, did the brake master last winter. Let it cool down 23 more degrees and that's a niiiice.
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Jul 30, 2022 15:41
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NitroSpazzz posted:Guess that caliper is done finally. Started pulling hard right and shaking the whole truck a mile or two from the house, finished the drive at 15mph. Now I need to determine which brake option this thing has then replace the whole front brake system, did the brake master last winter. Add more weasels.
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Jul 30, 2022 16:07
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Horrible mechanics failure from helping a friend with brakes:
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Jul 30, 2022 16:09
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 i bet that made a noise
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Jul 30, 2022 16:14
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nitrogen posted:Horrible mechanics failure from helping a friend with brakes: I do not miss drum brakes.
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Jul 30, 2022 16:40
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My first year working at my old job, a customer brought in his beater Oldsmobile Calais in for us to put his rear drum brakes back together with the new parts he bought, openly admitting he took them apart and had no idea how to put any of it back together. There was a small dirty box on the passenger seat full of both the old and new hardware and shoe sets, and upon getting it up in the air and pulling the wheels, I discovered that the only reason the leaking wheel cylinders didn't blow apart while he drove it was that they were secured with radiator hose clamps.  That shop saw an average of at least one job per week that would come in with dumb poo poo like: both primary shoes on one side and both secondary shoes on the other side, seized star-wheel adjusters installed backwards and nowhere near the bent actuator levers, backwards return springs, bent/compromised anchor pins, and so on.  I don't miss any of that poo poo either.
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Jul 30, 2022 17:40
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`Nemesis posted:
JB Weld it back
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Jul 30, 2022 18:12
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nitrogen posted:Horrible mechanics failure from helping a friend with brakes: Thank goodness I checked YouTube videos while I cleaned up and ate some lunch, because the brake adjuster grommet gizmo is installed backwards. I would have put them both in backwards had I not checked.
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Jul 30, 2022 19:14
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Root Bear posted:My first year working at my old job, a customer brought in his beater Oldsmobile Calais in for us to put his rear drum brakes back together with the new parts he bought, openly admitting he took them apart and had no idea how to put any of it back together. There was a small dirty box on the passenger seat full of both the old and new hardware and shoe sets, and upon getting it up in the air and pulling the wheels, I discovered that the only reason the leaking wheel cylinders didn't blow apart while he drove it was that they were secured with radiator hose clamps. I've only done a full rebuild of drums once but it was on a 70's Plymouth that hadn't been serviced in over 20 years and had been sitting in the woods for just as long. it took me about 4 days to do just the fronts and i said gently caress it on the rears for the time being since they weren't leaking or seized, just not working. i ended it up selling it not long after so hope that dude had fun the only time i've ever had an issue on discs was with my 84 300zx. you had to twist the piston while pushing it in to get it to compress and i spent about an hour cranking the poo poo out of some c clamps before i went to the parts store and bought the Haynes and the specialty tool for it (that you don't need but i tried the needle nose trick first and that was a pain in the rear end)
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Jul 30, 2022 22:35
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`Nemesis posted:
Like 3000 a year starting in 2020 in Milwaukee. There’s a doc on YouTube called “Kia boys” a guy here already made.
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Jul 31, 2022 03:32
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Meanwhile the rear drums on the better halfs Tiida have STILL got 3mm of material left on them at 260K kms, and the thing STILL stops like you hit a bus when you nail the anchors. I'm replacing them purely because they're now 16 year old brake shoes. About the worst thing I've ever done with drum brakes was getting the boxes mixed up after 3 months when i did the full chassis up rebuild of my Hilux and put the left hardware on teh right hand side etc. The Hilux uses the handbrake to adjust the brake shoe clearance as they wear, so when you put the adjusters in on the wrong sides, they COMPRESS when you pull on the handbrake and all of a sudden your brakes get worse and worse and worse every time you park. That took some head scratching to work out!
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Jul 31, 2022 16:27
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I'm literally the guy from '80s beer commercials who will stand around/help with car poo poo if you feed me and maybe provide some beer, and I've done lots of drums so every once in a while I'm asked to help. Only do one side so you can refer back to the other side for reference and it's not terrible, also you want to have one of the special spring wrangling tools. My grandpa knocked out three teeth trying to use vice grips to remove a spring.
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Aug 2, 2022 20:18
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God. Fuckin drum brakes. I've only ever owned 3 cars ever and still own two of them, but my Tacoma has, and is the only vehicle I've ever owned with drum brakes. I've worked on them before so I know its not some impossible magic voodoo poo poo, but I'm not looking forward to having to gently caress with them. Luckily, the thing is practically brand new so I likely won't have to worry about it for 10 years or so.
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Aug 2, 2022 20:31
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Drum brakes are adequate. Just too many moving parts in there for what they do. As far as I can tell, the only reason anyone uses them is that they're somehow cheaper - I guess the parking brake part? - than disc brakes, and the fact that in certain use cases, you can get more brake in the same rim by widening the shoe and drum, whereas more brake in discs might require a larger diameter wheel. Literally everything else, discs do better. Self adjusting, wet performance, repeated stop performance (cooling). Oh, I guess drums are less drag since they can be adjusted to fully retract from the braking surface while discs still make a little contact...
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Aug 2, 2022 20:44
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Be thankful that you don't have manually adjusting drums on the front.
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Aug 2, 2022 21:18
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Easy drums. Adjuster, wheel cylinder, 2 springs, 2 shoes. Pull the front shoe off the adjuster by hand, take off the top spring by hand. Pull the front shoe off the wheel cylinder by hand, take off the bottom spring by hand. Rotate the top of the rear shoe towards you to pull it off the handbrake lever. Done. Downside: manual adjuster (but done by 5/16 wrench, not blind flopping with a screwdriver) Horrible tire scoliosis. 
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Oddhair posted:I'm literally the guy from '80s beer commercials who will stand around/help with car poo poo if you feed me and maybe provide some beer, and I've done lots of drums so every once in a while I'm asked to help. Only do one side so you can refer back to the other side for reference and it's not terrible, also you want to have one of the special spring wrangling tools. My grandpa knocked out three teeth trying to use vice grips to remove a spring. The last set I did I abandoned my fancy brake tools for putting the springs back on, vice grips were a lot faster and seemed safer too.
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