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Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


of course they shouldn't. nasa fights tooth and nail for every bit of deltaV they can use. you think they want you giving some away for free??

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Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
"Hurtin' for a 'gurtin'."

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


that medical training story was just a Seinfeld plot

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


That fish lady sucks.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

did devo become an edgy, atheist pope on a mission to kill god or something

somehow the solution to the murder mystery is both extremely obvious and also completely inexplicable

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jul 28, 2022

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

QuoProQuid posted:

did devo become an edgy, atheist pope on a mission to kill god or something

It's the logical conclusion to that mindset.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

adventurer, educator, sea pope, dimension hopper, god hunter and an heir to a long-assumed-dead founder of founder’s wake—how does devo le main find time for it all?

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
Ha ha! I forgot his name was Devo La Main...

#ThankTravisForTravis

3DBlast
Oct 9, 2012
Extremely funny that Justin spoke for about 10 minutes in a near 2 hour finale, my god. I enjoyed this season back when they were running around the auction house but man that was a huge mess by the end.

pseudosavior
Apr 14, 2006

Don't you do cocaine at ME,
you son of a bitch!
Le main is French for The Hand.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
Which is probably what he was going for. But even the wiki spells it both ways, and I thought it was funny.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


ethersea really went off the rails, huh

VaultAggie
Nov 18, 2010

Best out of 71?
Finished the finale and I really don’t have a clue what the gently caress was going on. I would’ve been happy with just a scrappy fight against the rival ship gang and getting into a drunken bar fight instead of whatever the gently caress happened.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Can someone summarize the last few eps, I'm not going to listen if they suck

Catpain Slack
Apr 1, 2014

BAAAAAAH
I thought Ethersea was supposed to be a light-hearted monster of the week type deal, what the gently caress happened?

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

pseudosavior posted:

Le main is French for The Hand.

Le Main: The Hands of Fish

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Catpain Slack posted:

I thought Ethersea was supposed to be a light-hearted monster of the week type deal, what the gently caress happened?

They couldn't even play Monster of the Week as a lighthearted monster of the week type deal.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
I think when Clint rolled that 1 it kicked the whole thing into a weird territory.

Haven't listened to the finale yet but I was very disappointed in Devo for not mentioning Nermal's Pile when he spoke to the past and told them to come to the sea

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
you can't realistically blame that on a nat 1. griffin just can't help himself or something

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


Catpain Slack posted:

I thought Ethersea was supposed to be a light-hearted monster of the week type deal, what the gently caress happened?

despite repeatedly saying otherwise, Griffin can't resist the call of epic, planeshopping adventure.

edit: i have no idea why they keep using dnd they all seem to have very little grasp on it or desire to use it. is there some kind of weird SEO at play where non dnd podcasts don't get downloads? they also seem to want to jump up epic adventures so fast but are always, like, level 5 by the time they do and it's just awkward

Sankis fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jul 29, 2022

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

Sankis posted:

despite repeatedly saying otherwise, Griffin can't resist the call of epic, planeshopping adventure.

This is called Kingdom Hearts Syndrome and I'm afraid it's terminal

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Sankis posted:

despite repeatedly saying otherwise, Griffin can't resist the call of epic, planeshopping adventure.

edit: i have no idea why they keep using dnd they all seem to have very little grasp on it or desire to use it. is there some kind of weird SEO at play where non dnd podcasts don't get downloads? they also seem to want to jump up epic adventures so fast but are always, like, level 5 by the time they do and it's just awkward

Not using D&D seems like a very Devo thing to do.

External Organs posted:

This is called Kingdom Hearts Syndrome and I'm afraid it's terminal

:hai:

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

please don't insult the majesty that is kingdom hearts


ethersea's problems can be connected to griffin being unable to keep things small scale + griffin's insatiable desire to split the party + devo being a truly abhorrent character + justin losing interest and checking out some time during the cambria arc + thousands of words of exposition that no one asked for + the entire group forgetting how to tell a joke

clint was good as always though.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

3DBlast posted:

Extremely funny that Justin spoke for about 10 minutes in a near 2 hour finale, my god.

Who?

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp

Sankis posted:

Edit: i have no idea why they keep using dnd they all seem to have very little grasp on it or desire to use it. is there some kind of weird SEO at play where non dnd podcasts don't get downloads? they also seem to want to jump up epic adventures so fast but are always, like, level 5 by the time they do and it's just awkward

Yeah, D&D has a really outsized presence in the TTRPG scene. There's plenty of podcasts and personal games of people playing a heavily house-ruled D&D to shoehorn the system into working for the game they want to play instead of just playing a different game.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime
I’m probably a poo poo dm but whenever i dmed dnd I would largely just choose when monsters died. I never disclosed hit dice or health pools (because I didn’t actually have one, and this was partly just because I’m adhd as gently caress and rarely prepared to that extent)

I tried my best to just keep tension up when I felt it was necessary and reward players power fantasies when appropriate. I never had any complaints but I never disclosed to them that I never actually rolled for monsters (except in some rare circumstances). So I guess it was pretty lovely looking back but I was working with the only system I knew at the time

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

I thought the finale was fine. Then again I also thought the entire Ethersea campaign has been fine, with a slight-to-moderate decline over time. Wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed listening to it, which is more than I can say for Graduation, which I fully checked out of by ep 6. I don't play enough D&D to care that they aren't using the system properly, and if I cared that much I'd probably just play D&D, not listen to a comedy/action podcast.

I did enjoy that they set up the whole "if you go to another plane of existence, you'll corrupt and destroy it just like we did with this one, and that's final," and then kind of just said "meh, gently caress it. what do you know anyway?" It's the type of anti-authority message that I think the world could use.

Could have done without the multiverse/parallel timeline, as I feel like it's been fairly overdone lately with the MCU and Everything Everywhere All at Once but whatever.

3DBlast
Oct 9, 2012

change my name posted:

Can someone summarize the last few eps, I'm not going to listen if they suck

I’ll take a stab at it, with the caveat that I first get to plug the latest Friends at the Table campaign that just wrapped up in their main podcast feed: Bluff City is 5 episodes long, is extremely fun and silly and had me genuinely laughing out loud every single episode.

So the Hand of Guidance is dead, and Devo thinks it couldn’t be suicide because she called him Devo in her suicide note which she had never called him before. They come away from the murder scene without any real solid leads, so a magical man pops up and tells them hey guys it was probably Benefactor Orlean, you should go get him. So they head out, taking Kodeira from the church with them. Along the way they kill the very last of the blinksharks who once again tell Zoox to stop Amber from destroying the world. Zoox keeps this information to himself.

They arrive at Orlean’s hideout, a big coral tower surrounded by bleached coral warships. The bleached coral brinar let the Coriolis through and explain that Orlean made them build the tower to try and open a portal to…somewhere. They break into the tower, Devo tries to run off and be the hero and Orlean summons a big coral dragon. They fight it but Amber runs off for some reason I forgot, the dragon dies and Zoox fails a roll, dying as Orlean mind controls his body to fight Devo.

Orlean reveals he wants to tell himself in the past not to go under the sea because he left his family behind when he went to the shoreside. Devo does some poo poo to bring Zoox’s consciousness back and Zoox becomes the coral tower.

Orlean is dying because of the effort to do all the magic he’d been doing, tells Devo he didn’t kill Guidance and actually tried to warn her. Devo uses the time portal he was opening to repeat The Call to The Sea that lead everyone to the shoreside, but tacks “and bring your family” onto the end, then heads back down the tower to find Amber.

Amber had met up with Kodeira who has been possessed by Koda, one of the old gods. There’s also a portal there which leads to the blinkshark homeworld? Zoox the tower briefly traps Koda in coral and Amber jumps through the portal, despite Koda’s warning that going through will infect that world with magic and ruin it. Koda follows Amber and the portal closes.

Zoox builds himself a new taller, buffer body out of the tower and convinces the bleached coral brinar to come back to Founder’s Wake and act as the city’s protectors. They scoop up the portal and everyone on the now out-of-commission Biggest Baby and head home. Tesselation and some other scientists build Zoox a giant coral mech suit but warn it might absorb his consciousness when he gets in, but Zoox is like gimme gimme gimme. He gets in and is fine, and sets up The Reef, a team to explore the ocean and defend Founder’s Wake.

Amber and Kodeira, who is no longer being controlled by Koda, wake up on the blinkshark homeworld and they are very tall. Amber has a moment of doubt, wondering if coming here was a bad thing. The blinksharks put on an undersea light show and worship these two as gods. Kodeira feels Koda die, and they joke about how they’ll need to come up with better more godly names for themselves/each other.

Devo sets up a school for orphan kids and reads Guidance’s diary, finding a note that reads “Great Aurateurs Seldom Whisper” (Whispers being the term for Homenine spies - Brother Seldom is a Whisper and the one who killed Guidance. This is not spelled out the way I just spelled it out for you so none of the players react to this at all.) Devo then wakes up in another dimension where he’s the Undersea Pope, but I guess he’s in both dimensions at the same time? The magical man who told them Orlean was the murderer pops up and says this is the dimension where Devo did The Call to The Sea, and he never joined Amber and Zoox who died on their first mission together. And Devo’s like, well I knew that and btw my real name is Damien Cern, relative of someone from the Quiet Year episodes who I don’t remember. Meanwhile Benevolence, another one of the old gods tells Brother Seldom good work on killing Guidance, they’ll never find Homenine which still exists, now tell me everything you know about Founder’s Wake.
The End, it was really not very good at all, and make mine a large Coke.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Bummer to hear they didn't land the plane. Aether Sea didn't really grab me when I listened to the first 3-6 episodes, but I was also burnt out on long form RP podcasts at the time. Seemed like they had a good energy and were consciously trying to downsize after Travis piledrived the podcast with whatever Graduation was supposed to be. From the posts here, sounds like the bad inclinations from that effort managed to also sink his character in Aethersea?

At least most reviews seem to be more along the lines of "this was fine, but could have been better" vs. "this is bad."

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I'm still interested to see where they take the world but gently caress me if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot after the big disease outbreak.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

External Organs posted:

This is called Kingdom Hearts Syndrome and I'm afraid it's terminal

oh, you mean Doctor Who Disease

Sherlock AIDS

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Starting to sound like they really need to bite the bullet and hire a full time GM.

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


Shinjobi posted:

I'm still interested to see where they take the world but gently caress me if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot after the big disease outbreak.

Yeah, looking back that's really the point where Griffin seemed to realize he "needed" to up the stakes. It didn't immediately decline but the jobs stopped always being about existing in the world and subtly affecting the state of the city.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Have any of these campaigns been funny since about halfway through Balance?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

General Dog posted:

Have any of these campaigns been funny since about halfway through Balance?

lol no

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
Amnesty was great.

Honestly Ethersea was really good too, got a little weird but whatever.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.
Whatever you might think of Amnesty, it definitely wasn’t funny.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

amnesty had occasional moments of levity but the trend across the seasons has been to go for less humor and more serious and grounded drama

like, i doubt you would ever get a town composed of tom bodetts in ethersea (though we did get a dr. shaq)

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rollick
Mar 20, 2009
It felt like jokes would come back any episode, so I kept listening until the first act of Amnesty. But they never did. The characters even seemed to stop talking to each other, only communicating with the DM and NPCs.

I don't know why they think their USP is JRPG-level plotting rather than humour, the thing they are actually best known for.

When that bell argument happened in Travis's Western mystery mini-arc, it was like the only genuinely funny part in twenty+ hours of content.

rollick fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jul 30, 2022

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