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Barry Bluejeans posted:hot drat, they nearly doubled Supercard of Honor I'd be curious to know how many people watched Supercard via Honor Club since they mentioned the service was still available for that show but not DBD.
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Wheeler Yuta defends the ROH Pure Championship https://twitter.com/stokelyhathaway/status/1553049488079585281
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El Gallinero Gros posted:FTR are a draw, baby not to be funny but I genuinely wonder what match TK could put together for the next show that'll be as much of a draw as FTR/Briscoes plenty of time to figure that out I suppose
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Barry Bluejeans posted:not to be funny but I genuinely wonder what match TK could put together for the next show that'll be as much of a draw as FTR/Briscoes FTR/Redragon? Future Shock?
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Barry Bluejeans posted:not to be funny but I genuinely wonder what match TK could put together for the next show that'll be as much of a draw as FTR/Briscoes The tease at the end of the show made me think we might get FTR vs Claudio and Yuta at All Out to set up Dax challenging for the ROH title on PPV.
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Barry Bluejeans posted:not to be funny but I genuinely wonder what match TK could put together for the next show that'll be as much of a draw as FTR/Briscoes Claudio vs Danielson. Don't break up BCC or anything, just have it be two guys with major ROH history wanting to find out who's better.
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A Fancy Hat posted:Claudio vs Danielson. Don't break up BCC or anything, just have it be two guys with major ROH history wanting to find out who's better. Going into the show I was hoping they'd do an angle where Danielson got jealous of being the only person in the group without a title.
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MassRafTer posted:The tease at the end of the show made me think we might get FTR vs Claudio and Yuta at All Out to set up Dax challenging for the ROH title on PPV. had he not gotten hurt dax going for the pure title in the middle of said feud would have made a lot of sense to me and probably been a kickass match
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Did we ever get Dave's star ratings on DBD? Curious how he rated FTR/Briscoes 2 compared to the original. For my money 2 was slightly better but YMMV.
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ChuckBTY posted:Did we ever get Dave's star ratings on DBD? Curious how he rated FTR/Briscoes 2 compared to the original. For my money 2 was slightly better but YMMV. Yep! Kennel posted:Stars
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flashy_mcflash posted:FTR/Redragon? Future Shock? I'm honestly surprised AEW hasn't used Shelley yet.
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I was watching the pre-show for DBD last night, before I get around to watching the actual show this weekend. And yeah, when the Gates of Hell made their entrance? Yeesh. Very, very cultural appropriation-y, and honestly, kind of borderline racist.
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edogawa rando posted:I was watching the pre-show for DBD last night, before I get around to watching the actual show this weekend. i feel like i'm missing something here
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edogawa rando posted:I was watching the pre-show for DBD last night, before I get around to watching the actual show this weekend. what
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sticklefifer posted:TimeSplitters maybe? I think his schedule is a mess because he’s a full time medical worker but yeah Shelley should have a big company full contract imo
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edogawa rando posted:I was watching the pre-show for DBD last night, before I get around to watching the actual show this weekend. who exactly do you think is being racist also they're the gates of agony
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edogawa rando posted:I was watching the pre-show for DBD last night, before I get around to watching the actual show this weekend. the gates of agony consist of a cameroonian and a samoan-puerto rican, and are managed by a ghanaian. i say that up front even though their entrance was basically generic big scary dudes poo poo
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Alaois posted:i feel like i'm missing something here The lyrics to the entrance theme are from the Ka Mate haka, composed by Te Rauparaha of the Ngati Toa iwi, based just north of Wellington in New Zealand. It was composed and performed as a show of gratitude to a group of women tending to the fields, who hid a wounded Te Rauparaha from his enemies that were chasing him, saving his life. As you can probably infer, the lyrics are in Te Reo Maori, and while it's pretty much in use as the basic generic haka, it's a pretty important part of Maori culture and its not unusual for representative bodies like the Iwi Council to be very protective of what they consider to be their taonga. I assume it's meant to be for Toa Liona, who is apparently billed from Samoa, who has a Samoan flag and a Puerto Rican flag next to it on his ring gear. Basically, they're appropriating Maori culture and appear to be conflating it with Samoan culture. Yes, Samoa became a New Zealand colony after World War I, until 1960, but Samoans have their own language and culture, and conflating the two is kind of very problematic to put it mildly. It's lovely in the same way the WWE had the Usos do a poor rendition of the Ka Mate Haka at the top of the entrance ramp that one time. The pronunciation wasn't great either, I might as well add.
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you should tell toa liona on twitter he's doing his culture wrong
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His Wikipedia says he’s Māori so idk but I think he should get to use his culture even if you think he shouldn’t
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Not his culture though, is it?
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Cocaine is Abel posted:His Wikipedia says he’s Māori so idk but I think he should get to use his culture even if you think he shouldn’t He doesn't have a wikipedia entry yet. I think you're looking at Aaron Henare's entry, and yes, he is an Auckland-born Maori, but he and Toa Liona are two different people.
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Cocaine is Abel posted:His Wikipedia says he’s Māori so idk but I think he should get to use his culture even if you think he shouldn’t toa liona doesn't have a wikipedia page that can say he's maori
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Besides, if Toa Liona is Maori, I'd wonder why his gear doesn't have either the NZ flag or the Tino Rangatira flag alongside the Samoan and Puerto Rican one. I assume he's reasonably proud of being Samoan and Puerto Rican, so why wouldn't he also be proud enough to include a flag representing that aspect of his heritage, if that were the case?
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Oh. My bad. Well this guy should get a Wikipedia page then, Dave meltzer gave them money so they have the room for more pages
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edogawa rando posted:Besides, if Toa Liona is Maori, I'd wonder why his gear doesn't have either the NZ flag or the Tino Rangatira flag alongside the Samoan and Puerto Rican one. I assume he's reasonably proud of being Samoan and Puerto Rican, so why wouldn't he also be proud enough to include a flag representing that aspect of his heritage, if that were the case? you're taking a decent point and getting extremely weird with it
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that guy seems really proud of his heritage so he probably thinks that stuff is samoan or samoan adjacent. would be my guess. tony khan or mikey ruckus probably don't have encyclopedic knowledge of the Ka Mate haka, composed by Te Rauparaha of the Ngati Toa iwi, based just north of Wellington in New Zealand. i know i learned something today.
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looking up the theme, it looks like it's a mikey ruckus joint so i wonder if he grabbed something from a sound library that was just labeled like, "polynesian" or something
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are you absolutely positive it's the Ka Mate and not the Siva Tau
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Ivypls posted:looking up the theme, it looks like it's a mikey ruckus joint so i wonder if he grabbed something from a sound library that was just labeled like, "polynesian" or something If people want to know just ask him nicely on twitter and he'll answer.
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edogawa rando posted:As you can probably infer, the lyrics are in Te Reo Maori it was so obvious! 
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It was right there in front of us this whole time
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MassRafTer posted:If people want to know just ask him nicely on twitter and he'll answer. i was gonna say, you could probably hit him up about it. he seems chill
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the ka mate is more widely known as what new zealand rugby teams do for their pre-match haka, and there is a samoan counterpart in rugby called the siva tau (composed explicitly to be done for rugby). fun fact, when the usos stopped using the ka mate they picked up the siva tau instead which i have mixed opinions on -- sure, it's Actually Samoan but i feel weird about treating them as equivalent given the disparate historyAlaois posted:are you absolutely positive it's the Ka Mate and not the Siva Tau i don't know either language but it absolutely starts 'ka mate' in the entrance video. idk, i think i'd rather defer to the person with polynesian heritage whose theme it is in terms of what they want to use in their music because it could just be that they know something the viewers don't
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This can all be solved by making it even more disconnected and weird and have them come out to Alien Weaponry.
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MassRafTer posted:It's the biggest ROH PPV ever. I'm amazed only 20K saw G1 Supercard I don't feel like I've ever spoken to anyone who's missed it but I guess that is the bubble of this place.
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