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IIRC the statute of limitations is five years and has passed.
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Dr. Faustus posted:IIRC the statute of limitations is five years and has passed. This is only part true. Some of the counts expired and others still have some time to go. I don’t see them charging for the Mueller investigation obstruction though because there’s some chicken and egg stuff going on there that isn’t a slam dunk by any means. The president IS the executive branch, can he obstruct himself? Uh, maybe? I would say yes, but I wouldn’t trust scotus to make that same determination. And that’s where it would end up. I’m not even sure Trump can be charged for J06. But I do think he can be charged for obstruction after he was out of office.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 04:11 |
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VitalSigns posted:They're already saying that insurrectionists are the REAL cop-haters For once I agree with Trump here. He should turn himself in and answer for his crimes Epicurius posted:Serious question, do police vote 90% Republican? I've been trying to look up the numbers and can't find anything. Not sure honestly. I've wondered the same thing about the military vote but can never nail down solid splits. I feel safe in saying that, for the most part, any group of people that primarily is paid to solve problems by force tends to lean Republican.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 04:14 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Not sure honestly. I've wondered the same thing about the military vote but can never nail down solid splits. I feel safe in saying that, for the most part, any group of people that primarily is paid to solve problems by force tends to lean Republican. I don't know. There seems to be bipartisan consensus that solving problems by force is awesome. Anyway, here's this from a marketing company, for what its worth. https://www.refuelagency.com/blog/military/win-the-military-vote-2020/ quote:Over the past five years, the military community overall has shifted its party affiliations. In 2015, 28% of the military identified as Republican; in 2020, this number has risen to 40%.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 04:47 |
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Stop loving up, people.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 07:40 |
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As always, "I'll sue everyone" https://twitter.com/la_lacouture_/status/1552518149584601088 "“I have notified CNN of my intent to file a lawsuit over their repeated defamatory statements against me,” Trump's statement said. “I will also be commencing actions against other media outlets who have defamed me and defrauded the public regarding the overwhelming evidence of fraud throughout the 2020 election.”" https://twitter.com/akarl_smith/status/1552371564083126273
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 08:02 |
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I hate how effective this moronic word judo will be.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 08:20 |
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I'd like to see him try and get obliterated in court.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 08:22 |
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"Notifying someone of your intent to sue" is like the polar opposite of a power move.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 08:24 |
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At some point Donald Trump and Canadian Queen Romano Didulo will merge to become MEGA MAGA. Their batshit crazy levels are both pretty high.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 09:17 |
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Who's Romulan Dildo?
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 09:19 |
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This is just red meat. CNN would destroy him, and the discovery would bring up uncomfortable facts. I hope he's genuinely stupid enough to do this. I'm guessing some stupid $20 lawyer is telling him executive privilege will shield him from discovery.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 09:25 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:Who's Romulan Dildo? Romana Didulou, Canadian woman who has become a dangerously influential Qanon promoter, while at least having the decency to be entertaining enough to declare herself Queen.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 09:26 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:This is just red meat. CNN would destroy him, and the discovery would bring up uncomfortable facts. I hope he's genuinely stupid enough to do this. I'm guessing some stupid $20 lawyer is telling him executive privilege will shield him from discovery. Isn't CNN's case already made for them in the hearings? They've shown that he knew it was all bullshit. This trial would be quicker than Bannon's.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 09:57 |
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Oh God please sue them do it do it do it
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 17:10 |
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Ok Trump, present the evidence of voter fraud and this will be an open and shut case of defamation. Just ship it on over. We've been waiting for two years to see this evidence. Whenever you're ready.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 18:30 |
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More like Flip Mulvaney https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1552723060649734144?s=21&t=UtFmZhHkhimTwmo8n0M7Rw
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Mulvaney has always been transparently that guy who will absolutely sell you out if it's in his interests. What a fun development
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 19:51 |
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Probably why Trump has been making shouting noises about suing media outlets, he must be aware there is more and more people flipping on him.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:02 |
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mdemone posted:Mulvaney has always been transparently that guy who will absolutely sell you out if it's in his interests. He's one of those people where all you have to do is see a picture of him and you know he's a weasel.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:He's one of those people where all you have to do is see a picture of him and you know he's a weasel. What was it the joker said about the accountant? "I know a squealer when I see one"
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:08 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:He's one of those people where all you have to do is see a picture of him and you know he's a weasel. He does literally look like every single weaselly accountant type in movies and TV. Fake Edit: also ha, I forgot he said "nobody cares about the deficit" in 2019. Accidentally saying something true for once.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:19 |
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mdemone posted:Mulvaney has always been transparently that guy who will absolutely sell you out if it's in his interests. I always got the impression that Mulvaney was a Scaramucci-level Trump dickrider who Trump used for all he was worth and snookered him into doing like 8 peoples' jobs at once because he was that much of a squish for Daddy and only realized too late that he'd been had and Trump in fact was never going to return to loyalty he'd diffused out of every pore for him. Him scoring some payback for it all will be kind of fun to behold though, yes.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:26 |
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mdemone posted:Mulvaney has always been transparently that guy who will absolutely sell you out if it's in his interests. Isn't he the one that's the spitting image of the nazi from The Raiders of the Lost Ark?
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:28 |
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Randalor posted:Isn't he the one that's the spitting image of the nazi from The Raiders of the Lost Ark? Vhat do you tink, Doktor Jones?
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:30 |
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We're kinda getting the shape of the narrative, but we haven't seen a lot of documents. Some people willing to sing now will have deliberately not kept records before, providing only testimony. Some probably kept dox to protect themselves. These will come more from people that were against the plan. Some will surely have been sloppy, incomplete, leaving fragments or better. Opsec is hard. Some will have assumed there would never be an investigation or any subpoenas and just "yeah yeah yeahed" through suggestions for opsec (and maybe politely didn't take notes in certain meetings with certain persons). Then there's the media record, broadcasts and timestamped tweets and docu teams rolling; the committee has curated a trove, and shown us an illustrative sample to flesh out the narrative. Oh yeah, and snitches. There are always snitches. We know the feds have a shirload of dox, yeah? Biden should be able to unlock and examine any "top secret" file on the white house server, so all the federal records are accessible (and their absence anywhere should read like the Nixon tapes 17 minutes or whatever). We know the feds raided maralago. We know shreds of paper have been recovered from the white house toilet (!!). We can figure anyone willing to testify before Congress is willing to talk to the feds, and each will have some portion of dox. The feds can put leverage on a number of people to make then cough up more. The fed may have access to nsa dox, guiding some of the parallel reconstruction. Anything gathered by the j6 select committee is at the Fed's fingertips. This train is just getting going.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 20:30 |
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Uglycat posted:Biden should be able to unlock and examine any "top secret" file on the white house server, Let's hope he remembers his passwords
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 21:34 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:Let's hope he remembers his passwords It's Joe. His password is Joe.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 21:36 |
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nine-gear crow posted:It's Joe. His password is Joe. It might legitimately be hunter2
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 21:38 |
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nine-gear crow posted:It's Joe. His password is Joe. That's ridiculous. It's iloveicecream
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 21:38 |
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beauwasbest
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 23:01 |
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King of Foolians posted:beauwasbest
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 23:05 |
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I don't think it's a coincidence that testimony is ramping up after Bannon was convicted. These people don't want to get in trouble, self preservation is their primary motivation. Contempt is worse than whatever Trump can do to them now. Might as well cooperate.
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# ? Jul 28, 2022 23:42 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I don't think it's a coincidence that testimony is ramping up after Bannon was convicted. These people don't want to get in trouble, self preservation is their primary motivation. Contempt and enough people are talking that they don’t know what the committee knows so better try and get ahead of your name being front pages.
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# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:32 |
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CNN's been calling it the Big Lie more or less since he started lying about it. At the very least since after Jan 6th. Gosh golly, wonder why he's only decided to be mad about it now.
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# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:51 |
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kartikeya posted:CNN's been calling it the Big Lie more or less since he started lying about it. At the very least since after Jan 6th. Gosh golly, wonder why he's only decided to be mad about it now. Basically every media outlet that isn't Fox, OANN, Newmax or InfoWars has referred to it as the Big Lie since January 6th.
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# ? Jul 29, 2022 05:35 |
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Uglycat posted:So ianal... Mueller report was /not/ a vindication, and dod could decide to file charges based on Mueller's work (without triggering any double indemnity stuff), yeah? As far as I know, the statute of limitations for many of the obstruction incidents have already expired. edit: didn't notice someone above already mentioned it. For something new, the committee has turned over 20 interview transcripts to DoJ. V-Men fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/JudiciaryDems/status/1553170729574830082
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no poo poo
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So many people are hosed, I love it especially if it's in late summer
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