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Wouldn't cheap fusion just mean burn more everything but with higher profits?
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Jul 30, 2022 06:23
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look nuclear power was destined to fail, petrol interests aside, because people can handle a little doom every day but can't handle a lot of doom every once in a while
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Jul 30, 2022 06:23
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The Voice of Labor posted:good news. capital will destroy itself but it's looking extremely likely that it will take everything else down with it how likely is that
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Jul 30, 2022 06:27
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biosphere thread, you can just say "I'm scared that" when that's what you mean, instead of couching your feelings in quasi-statistical language. drunkenly groping probability theory doesn't make you sound smart.
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Jul 30, 2022 06:32
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Rodney The Yam II posted:Wouldn't cheap fusion just mean burn more everything but with higher profits? the idea is that you get infinite energy. at least on the scales we care about it is infinite. we're gonna see it as infinite heat, you load up your fusion machine with low Z atoms and it shoots them into your fusion sphere when you flip a switch and the whole thing gets super loving hot, and then you boil some water with that and make electricity. it needs to take less electricity to capture the low Z atoms, and the method in which we capture them needs to have a fairly deep prevalence (water), but then you just do that a bunch. first you figure out how to reproduce your free electricity machine using only electricity and resources with large wells (big if), and then you make everything run on electricity and build that machine everywhere. if you need more electricity you build another one. hopefully you use some of that energy to find even more sustainable ways to get low Z elements and resources to build more machines, like from the infinite uncaring universe. also to help people be happy and not destroy the planet and promote life. but lol okay folks yeah even inventing fusion isn't gonna save us
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Jul 30, 2022 06:36
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if humanity developed free, magical, zero direct downsides infinite energy under capitalism, Capital would use it to generate heat until it reached the thermal capacity of Earth. this literal energy magic would buy us roughly two centuries worth of time.
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Jul 30, 2022 06:42
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Zodium posted:biosphere thread, you can just say "I'm scared that" when that's what you mean, instead of couching your feelings in quasi-statistical language. drunkenly groping probability theory doesn't make you sound smart. lol you're so triggered by your last online argument you can't handle the word likely being used in a joke about our impending doom. *drunkenly gropes probability theory to exclaim it's probably going to be hot tomorrow*
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Jul 30, 2022 06:47
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Oh that sounds pretty cool. Maybe we could finally make ridiculous megastructures and stuff with all that extra juice power
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Jul 30, 2022 06:48
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bibles will survive and the cycle will start again....
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Jul 30, 2022 06:49
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Rodney The Yam II posted:Oh that sounds pretty cool. Maybe we could finally make ridiculous megastructures and stuff with all that extra juice power build a head the size of mount Everest with the Ozymandias phrase nearby so the distant future thinks i really built the whole thing
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Jul 30, 2022 06:50
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Literally head in the clouds Just a planet covered in giant heads
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Jul 30, 2022 06:52
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Zodium posted:biosphere thread, you can just say "I'm scared that" when that's what you mean, instead of couching your feelings in quasi-statistical language. drunkenly groping probability theory doesn't make you sound smart. the word “likely” has been around for a really long time. you’re inventing a voice of labor in your head that doesn’t exist.  if you’re a data janitor maybe you see everything in terms of maximum likelihood estimation but most people don’t.
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Jul 30, 2022 06:57
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The Voice of Labor posted:lol you're so triggered by your last online argument you can't handle the word likely being used in a joke about our impending doom. I'm afraid my triggering about statistics goes much deeper than that exchange.  it's okay to be scared of Capital killing the biosphere. that's a totally reasonable thing to be afraid of. you don't have to channel the feelings you have reading about it into a sciencey form.
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Jul 30, 2022 07:01
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likr in the front, probability in the rear
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Jul 30, 2022 07:03
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Zodium posted:you don't have to channel the feelings you have reading about it into a sciencey form. actually you can and it owns
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Jul 30, 2022 07:11
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Zodium posted:you don't have to channel the feelings you have reading about it into a sciencey form. That's not what is happening when lay people use words such as "likely " or "probably ". I assume English isn't your first language, or you are around technical jargon most of the time at your job and not often exposed to colloquial conversations?
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Jul 30, 2022 07:27
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Rodney The Yam II posted:Literally head in the clouds i'm gonna build mine like poo poo so they also eventually realize i faked it lol
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Jul 30, 2022 07:29
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Stereotype posted:i'm gonna build mine like poo poo so they also eventually realize i faked it lol I can die happy knowing i used my fusion stimulus check to punk the Martians
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Jul 30, 2022 07:34
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Zodium posted:I'm afraid my triggering about statistics goes much deeper than that exchange. it's o.k.. it's 100% likely people saying valid when what they mean is legitimate bugs me
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Jul 30, 2022 07:39
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Laterite posted:likr in the front, probability in the rear
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Jul 30, 2022 07:48
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Zodium posted:if humanity developed free, magical, zero direct downsides infinite energy under capitalism, Capital would use it to generate heat until it reached the thermal capacity of Earth. this literal energy magic would buy us roughly two centuries worth of time. This would make an awesome sci-fi premise
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Jul 30, 2022 09:07
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Isostatic rebound gets me horny for a whopper. update: oh no
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Jul 30, 2022 10:12
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silicone thrills posted:This seems total fine for the "omg we can totally invent our way out of it" crowd an egg has issued a correction as of 10:16 on Jul 30, 2022 |
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Jul 30, 2022 10:13
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Basic Poster posted:Harvested a small fraction of wild plants growing on my plot today. Saw many fun bugs and several happy couples of monarchs. an egg has issued a correction as of 10:50 on Jul 30, 2022 |
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Jul 30, 2022 10:37
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https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1553149351358132224?t=8XFpRtKJ9Y5EwyWGV3kgCg&s=19
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Jul 30, 2022 11:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1553149351358132224?t=8XFpRtKJ9Y5EwyWGV3kgCg&s=19 lol gently caress off you thin-skinned millionaire. like a prettier elon musk, just need to put out a press release because the poors might be saying something mean
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Jul 30, 2022 11:41
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It's loaned out? So not only does it spend more time in the air but she makes money off it too Literally worse than if she had exclusive use of it and it sat parked at the airport most of the time 
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Jul 30, 2022 11:53
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1553149351358132224?t=8XFpRtKJ9Y5EwyWGV3kgCg&s=19 Your private plane doesn't emit any carbon if you leave it on the ground, you gigantic piece of poo poo Love to imagine the brain genius who thought "yeah, claiming that we're just loaning it to other people makes this better somehow"
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Jul 30, 2022 11:55
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Paradoxish posted:Your private plane doesn't emit any carbon if you leave it on the ground, you gigantic piece of poo poo So you want pilots to lose their jobs??? Smdh
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Jul 30, 2022 12:16
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starting to think that rich people were a bad idea
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Jul 30, 2022 12:33
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Microplastics posted:This would make an awesome sci-fi premise A few years ago in this thread someone posted a paper about how if you just continue the exponential growth of capitalism through the end of the 21st century you end up cooking us all to death just from waste heat from industrial processes, dont even need emissions. I might go looking for that paper later today.
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Jul 30, 2022 14:00
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has anyone considered making the waste product of industrial processes like colder? idk like maybe Mr freeze instead
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Jul 30, 2022 14:10
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oh, we radiate heat into space all the drat time
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Jul 30, 2022 14:13
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an egg posted:the massive redistribution of weight caused by solid icebergs turning into liquid water is causing unprecedented movements in the tectonic plates. i wonder what the removal of topsoil has done to them. when you think about that many metres deep, spread out over that much land, plus the trees etc that were growing in it, that's an unimaginable amount of weight removed and transformed into big macs That's not due to removed topsoil, that's the aquifer collapsing permanently. When they pump out the water the caves it used to be in are too unstable and crush down. Even if you stopped pumping water and evacuated the entire region it will never come back. Maybe there's more permiable formations that will be uplifted eventually and dissolution will create a new pool but that's on a geologic timescale.
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Jul 30, 2022 14:52
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Stereotype posted:yes, this is the only definition of fusion lol they said the exact same thing about fission. But sure, this time the massive hyper complex power plant that no one has ever built before will be too cheap to meter because technology will save us.
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Jul 30, 2022 14:54
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Whether we can make fusion work is irrelevant because capitalism won't let it be adopted on a wide scale. There's not enough ongoing costs with a fusion reactor for people to extract rents in the same way they can with our current energy system.
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Jul 30, 2022 15:00
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maybe not in the us, but if magic fusion technology could save us, it seems that places that do infrastructure spending like china would be pushing for it internally
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Jul 30, 2022 15:02
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They are. I believe they're part of every international fusion project and they're separately heavily invested in all the associated technologies needed for it. You raise a good point, I think they still see the materials science issues as potentially insurmountable in the near to mid term to build a utility scale plant.
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Jul 30, 2022 15:06
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Source4Leko posted:Whether we can make fusion work is irrelevant because capitalism won't let it be adopted on a wide scale. There's not enough ongoing costs with a fusion reactor for people to extract rents in the same way they can with our current energy system. Oh ye of little faith, between neutron embrittlement, construction costs, grid operation requirements, and electricity sales there is plenty of ways to extract rents.
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Jul 30, 2022 15:08
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Not on nearly the same scale as oil, gas or coal by a longshot.
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Jul 30, 2022 15:09
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