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Darko posted:A subset of black people super got into the goth subculture which was kind of parallel to the anime culture at the same time (if you look at DBZ Fandom, it's largely black, for instance, as well as having full black anime focused conventions). i knew plenty of black goths back in the day, and these days i see them a lot. in the midwest, you see far more black goths than white ones these days. there also have always been a lot of Latino goths, especially in argentina. the 90s had a huge glam-goth argentina scene "goths are always pasty white people" is about as accurate as "goths are always fat chicks".
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in fact, in an amazing synchronicity i just thought of, in the past year i've seen no less than four black people with Ankh tattoos, and they didn't even appear to be goths
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Darko posted:A subset of black people super got into the goth subculture which was kind of parallel to the anime culture at the same time (if you look at DBZ Fandom, it's largely black, for instance, as well as having full black anime focused conventions). So what I'm hearing is, the visual gimmick for this show's version of Death should be that she's always decked out in anime merch
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Argue posted:So what I'm hearing is, the visual gimmick for this show's version of Death should be that she's always decked out in anime merch Jill Thompson already did this 
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precision posted:i knew plenty of black goths back in the day, and these days i see them a lot. in the midwest, you see far more black goths than white ones these days. Yeah it's more accurate that "white goths treat nonwhite goths lovely, so white goth spaces are mostly white people".
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precision posted:in fact, in an amazing synchronicity i just thought of, in the past year i've seen no less than four black people with Ankh tattoos, and they didn't even appear to be goths You may have run into some hoteps, which is unfortunate.
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Darko posted:You may have run into some hoteps, which is unfortunate. Well if they did, they didn't get their soul sucked out their rear end so that's a net win.
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I just hope we eventually get to see Norton I, my fav story in the series.
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah it's more accurate that "white goths treat nonwhite goths lovely, so white goth spaces are mostly white people". what's super messed up is that this is happening again now with anime. anime is (and has been for a long time) huge even in what you would call "mainstream african-american culture". like, it's still pretty weird to see a white trust fund bro daddy sporting a Naruto shirt, but you see regular definitely-not-nerd black dudes in Dragonball shirts all the time. in my experience, anime just doesn't have that stigma among black people and yet white anime fans heavily dominate the conversation and the organization of the conventions, often for lovely economic reasons
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precision posted:what's super messed up is that this is happening again now with anime. anime is (and has been for a long time) huge even in what you would call "mainstream african-american culture". like, it's still pretty weird to see a white trust fund bro daddy sporting a Naruto shirt, but you see regular definitely-not-nerd black dudes in Dragonball shirts all the time. in my experience, anime just doesn't have that stigma among black people And always have something lovely to say about black cosplayers, just like with this casting. "It's not accurate enough" or whatever used to mask things.
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My one requirement, as a middle-aged nerd who read the comic as it came out, when I first heard about this adaptation, was that they MUST do "The Sound of Her Wings" and not gently caress it up. Looks like I will be happy. (As for the casting of Death, yeah, I saw the actress on The Good Place. She has the ability, any naysayers can suck it.)
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Groke posted:(As for the casting of Death, yeah, I saw the actress on The Good Place. She has the ability, any naysayers can suck it.) oh heck i didn't even pay enough attention to realize that's who she is! yeah she definitely has the right energy for "cheerfully telling you about your imminent demise"
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precision posted:oh heck i didn't even pay enough attention to realize that's who she is! yeah she definitely has the right energy for "cheerfully telling you about your imminent demise" Got that whole slightly exasperated, sarcastic, yet warm and empathetic voice of reason thing down.
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Groke posted:Got that whole slightly exasperated, sarcastic, yet warm and empathetic voice of reason thing down. Yeah the key for the scene they showed was that she needs to be honestly and believably compassionate and she nails it.
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For anyone into ASMR-style things, they just released an official podcast called Sandman: Dreamcast which features the show's cast reprising their roles taking you on a tour through various locations such as the Dreaming itself, Lucienne's Library, and The Threshold of Desire. Pretty neat and I believe it includes music from the show for those fans of orchestral scores like myself. It's on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. (It also has the first "listen" at Cain and Abel so I geeked out)
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Neil Gaiman is on the most recent WTF With Marc Maron podcast. I haven't listened to it yet but he usually does a pretty decent interview.
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NG is a good follow on twitter https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/1553712284412821504
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AFewBricksShy posted:Neil Gaiman is on the most recent WTF With Marc Maron podcast. I haven't listened to it yet but he usually does a pretty decent interview. It's a good interview. He's a lot more candid than he usually is on traditional junket stuff or even his twitter.
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A lot of stuff comes out this Friday but I have a feeling that I'm going to watch this entire show in one sitting.
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Jaxyon posted:NG is a good follow on twitter
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muscles like this! posted:A lot of stuff comes out this Friday but I have a feeling that I'm going to watch this entire show in one sitting. On one hand, I'm glad it's coming out in a lump, so I can just binge it. On the other, I am maddened that I won't have a proper teevee binge window for a couple of weeks 
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I refuse to binge and I hate that it's become the expectation.
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So, uh, I just watched the first episode and it is really loving good. It's going to make waiting til Friday even worse though. (Netflix sent me a screener since I won a spot at the virtual premiere)
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I'll be visiting some friends this weekend and they just cancelled netflix so I either get to share my password and force them to watch, watch it late night on my kindle, or wait until I get home to squeeze in what I can. I wish they were like Amazon and Friday releases were early evening Thursday my time.
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My Lovely Horse posted:I refuse to binge and I hate that it's become the expectation. It's not though. Most of the services release weekly because it keeps folks subscribed. Netflix is mostly an exception in that regard.
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Fair enough, and I don't have a lot of subscriptions so Netflix is what I know. Still though, I feel like there's a cultural expectation for people to binge when available. But I also realized it doesn't matter much here cause it's Sandman and I know how it goes and I can do an episode a day and talk about it online without that apprehension towards accidentally catching spoilers. Unless they pull that thing where they make a big dumb change for the sake of changing things like in just about any adaptation I've seen in the past few years 
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My Lovely Horse posted:Fair enough, and I don't have a lot of subscriptions so Netflix is what I know. Still though, I feel like there's a cultural expectation for people to binge when available. But I also realized it doesn't matter much here cause it's Sandman and I know how it goes and I can do an episode a day and talk about it online without that apprehension towards accidentally catching spoilers. The first episode has some minor changes that feel like they were done to make it work more as a cohesive television show, setting up characters that will be important later, but it was overall fairly faithful.
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That's how they lure you in and then in the very last episode Death appears with every mortal she's claimed in the series and goes "the dead no longer dream... I've come with an army you have no power over to claim your kingdom, brother!"
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Dream's gonna be hanging out in MCR t-shirts
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My Lovely Horse posted:That's how they lure you in and then in the very last episode Death appears with every mortal she's claimed in the series and goes "the dead no longer dream... I've come with an army you have no power over to claim your kingdom, brother!" It's gonna end on a surprise tie-in with Zach Snyder's Justice League 2.  But yeah, I'm hyped. I actually hadn't read Sandman in full before, and took the opportunity during the run-up to read the first three volumes in the last couple months. Really looking forwards to seeing how they'll be trying to translate some of the wilder comic visuals to screen, particularly of the first few issues.
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It'll definitely be interesting to see how they handle some of the disconnected stuff or things that take forever to pay off, like the issue where Morpheus rescues Calliope or Lady Johanna's adventure during the French Revolution.
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They'll match the spirit of the guest appearances so instead of guest starring old DC characters they'll use characters from older netflix shows. I hope they do a High Cost of Living movie in between seasons or something. Or I guess it could be a filler episode somewhere.
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if this is successful, i can't imagine them not doing High Cost of Living as a special. everyone loves that story. it's the Gen X equivalent of It's a Wonderful Life
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If this gets popular enough I could see them doing an anthology of the stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere.
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muscles like this! posted:If this gets popular enough I could see them doing an anthology of the stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere. Maybe, but I doubt it. Gaiman didn't originally intend to write most of the side stories; around what became the midpoint of the series he laid out his complete plan and it ran to 60 issues rather than the 75 we got. I think what we'll get is the main plot in at most four seasons, with nearly all the side stories jettisoned.
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Jedit posted:Maybe, but I doubt it. Gaiman didn't originally intend to write most of the side stories; around what became the midpoint of the series he laid out his complete plan and it ran to 60 issues rather than the 75 we got. I think what we'll get is the main plot in at most four seasons, with nearly all the side stories jettisoned. I think a large chunk of them will be, but Gaiman has said that he feels that he wants to do some of the bigger side stories like Midsummer Night's Dream, Dream of a Thousand Cats, Orpheus (which is important), and a few others. I think ALL of World's End gets ditched.
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I'll accept losing World's End as long as we get three seasons of a Prez Rickard show
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I think a large chunk of them will be, but Gaiman has said that he feels that he wants to do some of the bigger side stories like Midsummer Night's Dream, Dream of a Thousand Cats, Orpheus (which is important), and a few others. I think ALL of World's End gets ditched.  Holy moly
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I think a large chunk of them will be, but Gaiman has said that he feels that he wants to do some of the bigger side stories like Midsummer Night's Dream, Dream of a Thousand Cats, Orpheus (which is important), and a few others. I think ALL of World's End gets ditched. That's pretty much where I'm at, except Thermidor needs to be in as well - and we know it will be, because they're setting it up in S1.
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