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Gaius Marius posted:The greeks weren't conscious and couldn't see blue. Simple as that You are Julian Jaymes and I claim my five pounds.
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cheetah7071 posted:oh do the dodecahedrons remain a mystery after all? There's no evidence of knitting existing in the Roman period, the earliest known knit garments in Europe are fairly late medieval. There are some other problems but that one's a doozy.
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Isekai grandma: trapped in a parallel world I teach them to knit?!
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Tunicate posted:Isekai grandma: trapped in a parallel world I teach them to knit?! Better by miles than 99% of isekai stories.
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cheetah7071 posted:oh do the dodecahedrons remain a mystery after all? It's not anymore convincing then it being an astronomical tool or having to deal with coinage or etc etc.
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Tunicate posted:Isekai grandma: trapped in a parallel world I teach them to knit?! That would be the first isekai I ever read
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cheetah7071 posted:the lunar cycle and menstrual cycle are similar enough that I think it'd be hard to distinguish which one influenced the earliest calendars--even setting aside the likely possibility that it's just, both. 28-30 days is a division of time that helps you track the moon I wonder if it's also the other way round too? Want to know what time of month it is, look up. Rent is due every full moon, etc.
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Grand Fromage posted:There's no evidence of knitting existing in the Roman period, the earliest known knit garments in Europe are fairly late medieval. There are some other problems but that one's a doozy. Yeah that's the big one. The other kind of obviously problem is that it doesn't actually make knitting finger gloves like that any easier. Vincent Van Goatse posted:Better by miles than 99% of isekai stories. I'm still sad the isekai CK3 LP died, that was funny.
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Tulip posted:it doesn't actually make knitting finger gloves like that any easier.
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Scarodactyl posted:Ah, so it's an ancient roman lifehack. Now I'm imagining a Roman version of infomercials on the forums. "Have you ever spilled posca on your toga!"
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Grand Fromage posted:There's no evidence of knitting existing in the Roman period, the earliest known knit garments in Europe are fairly late medieval. There are some other problems but that one's a doozy. Man that is wild. Granted I have never knitted or thought very much about it, but I thought for sure it was one of those crafts that goes back many thousands of years. Clothes in antiquity were mostly woven then?
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cheetah7071 posted:oh do the dodecahedrons remain a mystery after all? They were used for measuring the standard size of slingshot bullets, OBVIOUSLY
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Historians have come to a consensus that Rubik was most likely an idealized myth, possibly inspired by multiple historical figures, and these objects had ritual significance.
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PittTheElder posted:Man that is wild. Granted I have never knitted or thought very much about it, but I thought for sure it was one of those crafts that goes back many thousands of years. Yes, weaving was the big thing. As I understand it, weaving was a huge aspect of life, in terms of hours dedicated to it. If you want to read a lot of  about cloth production in the ancient world, there's this one on ACOUP which seems to be a pretty well-regarded source.
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I could google this but I want to hear it from the thread - what in the world is an "isekai"?
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A Japanese genre of fiction involving modern age people being reborn in a fantasy world typically.
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ChaseSP posted:A Japanese genre of fiction involving modern age people being reborn in a fantasy world typically. Isekai (異世界) just means "another world," and while there's currently a big boom of those kinds of stories, there's really nothing necessary about it that would exclude a lot of Jules Verne's work, lots of early explorer fiction, or even arguably The Odyssey. The critical trope is a character being planted, alone, in a foreign environment where skills from "back home" prove surprisingly useful. The funniest play I've seen done with the genre is "Ya Boy Kongming," where Zhuge Liang of Three Kingdoms fame (aka Kongming) is reincarnated in 2020 Tokyo and becomes a party planner/agent for an aspiring pop star. e: he uses "The Stone Maze Trick" to manipulate traffic at a night club for example, its very silly
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The isekai chat reminds me, there was a Reddit thread about how you would survive if you woke up in Medieval Europe with only the clothes on your back, no modern technology. Someone posted an elaborate plan for how he'd steal a horse, pretend to be a monk who'd taken a vow of silence (to avoid the language barrier), and use his modern knowledge to conquer all of Eurasia and then the New World. The most important stage in his plan? Inventing pasta! There might have been a thread on some other subreddit mocking it, but I can't find either that or the original. steinrokkan posted:They were used for measuring the standard size of slingshot bullets, OBVIOUSLY For anyone who doesn't know what this is about and has archives, I recommend this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3443249
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cheetah7071 posted:oh do the dodecahedrons remain a mystery after all? if it was just an everyday utility object it doesn't really make sense that some of them were made of gold and were decorated. if i had to venture a guess id say they were used to display something
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ScienceSeagull posted:The isekai chat reminds me, there was a Reddit thread about how you would survive if you woke up in Medieval Europe with only the clothes on your back, no modern technology. Someone posted an elaborate plan for how he'd steal a horse, pretend to be a monk who'd taken a vow of silence (to avoid the language barrier) They should have gone to a school that teaches Latin 
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I could google this but I want to hear it from the thread - what in the world is an "isekai"? a connecticut yankee in king arthur's court, but anime
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I could google this but I want to hear it from the thread - what in the world is an "isekai"? A plot device currently trendy in fantasy manga in which the protagonist is transplanted from contemporary Earth.
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I'm gonna describe Army of Darkness as an isekai from now on
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IMO what makes Isekai its own distinct sub-genre of fantasy and not just standard fantasy with real world protagonists ala Narnia, is that it generally uses video game mechanics. And I don't mean "story like a bad JRPG" or thematic similarities, I mean actual literal mechanics. Characters "Level-Up" in numerically sequential levels when they gain enough "XP". Instead of casting a fireball with magic, they cast a Level-6 fireball spell that does 26 HP of damage and costs 14 mana points. Instead of going on adventures they do "quests" from the quest giver NPC at literal Adventurers Guilds for loot. Instead of the power fantasy wish fulfillment coming from being the chosen one, it's because they spec into the right Class or Racial Skill. It's all as dumb as it sounds, making the fantastical into the banal.
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galagazombie posted:IMO what makes Isekai its own distinct sub-genre of fantasy and not just standard fantasy with real world protagonists ala Narnia, is that it generally uses video game mechanics. And I don't mean "story like a bad JRPG" or thematic similarities, I mean actual literal mechanics. Characters "Level-Up" in numerically sequential levels when they gain enough "XP". Instead of casting a fireball with magic, they cast a Level-6 fireball spell that does 26 HP of damage and costs 14 mana points. Instead of going on adventures they do "quests" from the quest giver NPC at literal Adventurers Guilds for loot. Instead of the power fantasy wish fulfillment coming from being the chosen one, it's because they spec into the right Class or Racial Skill. It's all as dumb as it sounds, making the fantastical into the banal. Not really, thats a sub-genre called LitRPG Also not really the thread for it but your mind gently caress for the dat is that DBZ is a cultivation series.
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That's only modern Isekai from that post sword art lineage. Inuyasha never had that poo poo
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ScienceSeagull posted:The isekai chat reminds me, there was a Reddit thread about how you would survive if you woke up in Medieval Europe with only the clothes on your back, no modern technology. Someone posted an elaborate plan for how he'd steal a horse, pretend to be a monk who'd taken a vow of silence (to avoid the language barrier), and use his modern knowledge to conquer all of Eurasia and then the New World. The most important stage in his plan? Inventing pasta! There might have been a thread on some other subreddit mocking it, but I can't find either that or the original. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has a parody of this trope where Arthur Dent ends up in a foreign civilization and realizes that the only practical skill he has is to make a decent sandwich.
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cheetah7071 posted:oh do the dodecahedrons remain a mystery after all? Also IIRC arent they overwhelmingly found in legion camps and forts? Which makes 'civilian' uses suspect, because otherwise theyd be found elsewhere.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I could google this but I want to hear it from the thread - what in the world is an "isekai"? a currently-popular subgenre of portal fantasy
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Perhaps the dodecahedrons serve... a ritual purpose?
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Stairmaster posted:Perhaps the dodecahedrons serve... a ritual purpose? Discarded spawn points for isekai protagonists
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Alhazred posted:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has a parody of this trope where Arthur Dent ends up in a foreign civilization and realizes that the only practical skill he has is to make a decent sandwich. I feel that this would be me. Also, making a good cup of tea.
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The reason Isekai became a genre and not just a trope was because of the sheer flood of stories that followed the exact same beats. It's most common for the protagonist to get reincarnated into another world with a bunch of cheat skills that trivialize all challenges (which can either lead to a very chill story or a very contrived one when the author tries to reintroduce drama), but there's a thousand tweaks and variants. There are some that try to take a more "educated" approach, which often falls short, but it is what it is. The only one I'd actively recommend is Ascendance of a Bookworm, which is in a world that is not very gamey at all, the main character has no cheat powers and in fact is abnormally weak and frail, and she has her one interest in books that inspires her to try to spread her modern knowledge of printing (and having to go through many failures to do so as she reckons with the harshness of medieval living). There's also a manga that's all about Roman baths, but I don't know anything about that one.
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I finished Dawn of Everything a few days ago and I think I'm going to be thinking about it for the rest of my life.SlothfulCobra posted:There's also a manga that's all about Roman baths, but I don't know anything about that one. Thermae Romae, I've only seen a few eps and its very funny. I have completed the much more psychedelic Bessatsu Olympia Kyklos, about a cowardly greek man who gets periodically transported to 60s Japan where he learns things about Japanese life that he brings back to ancient Greece. Japanese people are all weird paper cut outs, while the Greek people are all claymation, it's great. Each episode ends with a weird song explaining some element of ancient Greek life, like "what is a polis" and "what did ancient Greeks wipe their butts with." According to a classicist I'm friends with, he didn't see any really glaring errors in those songs. Stairmaster posted:Perhaps the dodecahedrons serve... a ritual purpose? You just blew this thing wide open you crazy bastard.
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Tulip posted:I finished Dawn of Everything a few days ago and I think I'm going to be thinking about it for the rest of my life. Same! That book makes some incredibly far-reaching claims that I'm not equipped to judge, but while I'm sure that some of them won't stand up to scholarly criticism, the conceptual framework and the way it makes you question assumptions is fantastic. Absolutely blew my thinking about social history wide open.
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