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corgski posted:Im gay+2 im gay+3
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i'm gary
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lol if you don't think it'd be funnier that mittani gets booted for going inactive in a very powerful display of space paperwork pushing
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Solus posted:lol if you don't think it'd be funnier that mittani gets booted for going inactive in a very powerful display of space paperwork pushing 
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Aug 2, 2022 00:20
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Solus posted:lol if you don't think it'd be funnier that mittani gets booted for going inactive in a very powerful display of space paperwork pushing The bureaucrats control the Illum now.
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dragonshardz posted:
I mean I think I know what he’s getting at but I don’t know enough about goosefleet’s retention plans as numbers dwindle to make the call. I had the option and a lot of people saying I should have schism’d when the hammer came down on Topgoon, but I chose not to (I kind of regret this because we could have made deklein a horror show for a while) mainly because I knew that ultimately my resource pull was “Goons and Allies who needed a break from mainfleet” and that my numbers and enthusiasm would probably be great for a year, but churn of players leaving would kill me in two. The SA pool is shallow. This doesn’t need to go this way, but it’s very common in goon guilds in games of a particular type (full loot pvp with shitbird devs). In my own experience we usually found some likeminded groups and when churn inevitably occurs we’d merge, or we’d recruit off SA. The second bit being that holes aren’t as new player friendly (in that they can be more sp intense). A healthy newbie “economy” is harder to create In inherently less secure space with fewer players to act as soaks for the lower tier resources newbies are capable of getting. My general suggestion coming out of this remains the same as it always has been: scoop as many goons into a corp as you can and join an extant nullsec power. But this is all conjecture, and honestly I’d still join you if I had eve “time” because I want you to succeed.
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Bigbillthaboss posted:how many posts were you able to fit in a standard industrial? Only one in a cargo expanded industrial. It was one of yours so it was a huge piece of poo poo.
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Gwailar posted:1) Unpersoning Alex from SA and from GSF are not comparable tasks. Of course it took far fewer resources and less time for SA to do so. Plus, SA had nothing to lose. Printing this post so I can wipe my rear end with it.
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psilocybin laden posted:im gay+3 i'm gay+4 Rhymenoserous posted:I mean I think I know what he’s getting at but I don’t know enough about goosefleet’s retention plans as numbers dwindle to make the call. gently caress sov tho if we need to fold into a bigger group we'll find a compatible w-space group and go there. i have done corp leadership for w-space goslings before and it's largely a matter of designing around what a gosling can actually do.
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That Works posted:Lol directorate now all "you want me on that wall... You need me on that wall... To benignly remove the most toxic person in our community if they don't follow a bureaucratic process over the next 60 days" Dude I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this to you since you've clearly got some preordered and presharpened axe that's done been ground, but come on. The Former Emperor of Goon Space FOR THE PAST TWELVE YEARS being quietly shuffled from the corporation by properly signed, sealed, and stamped space bureacracy is some of the funniest poo poo ever. "Oh, how did he go? Did someone rage out and ban him in a fit of pique like he did to deadtear?" "No, he failed to meet minimum activity requirements and Atrum purged him." That's some salt on the salad I'm making. Just need another 43 days.
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andromache posted:Dude I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this to you I don't either. Maybe next time you can do the right thing without waiting 43 days?
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Okay but like, it's not as funny though if he just logs into jabber in 42 days for a minute and doesn't post anything.
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That Works posted:I don't either. Maybe next time you can do the right thing without waiting 43 days? 
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CainFortea posted:Okay but like, it's not as funny though if he just logs into jabber in 42 days for a minute and doesn't post anything. It’s gonna happen before that. He’s still in the shocked this happened to me phase. Pretty soon he’s gonna smack into denial.
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That Works posted:I don't either. Maybe next time you can do the right thing without waiting 43 days? Oh you mean that banning thing that like 5 people in the alliance can do and I'm not one of them? Yeah, can't do that, I don't make those calls. What I can do is enforce the pre-existing space bureacracy that the Former Emperor built, and using that to just quietly and impersonally shuffle him off no fuss is very, very funny to me. ded posted:atrum is that guy at the dmv who invents problems with your registration to keep from getting bored. he doesn't actually care he just wants to gently caress with ~everyone~ You aren't wrong.
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Solus posted:lol if you don't think it'd be funnier that mittani gets booted for going inactive in a very powerful display of space paperwork pushing Just the characters, to boot, don't forget that detail
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BigPaddy posted:Only one in a cargo expanded industrial. It was one of yours so it was a huge piece of poo poo. LOL holy hell this made me laugh, well played
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andromache posted:Oh you mean that banning thing that like 5 people in the alliance can do and I'm not one of them? Yeah, can't do that, I don't make those calls. That Works posted:This is what it looks like when you have armchair middle management trying to paper over a CEO level HR crisis.
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andromache posted:Oh you mean that banning thing that like 5 people in the alliance can do and I'm not one of them? Yeah, can't do that, I don't make those calls. so you can't do what SA did and just change the rules for a guy who actively abetted a sex offender because There's Not Enough Support that is a great sign. this is definitely a stable organization that won't have multiple implosions within it soon
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andromache posted:I don’t have the ability to do that. This isn't an attack please don't read it as hostile, you're my buddy Atrum & I'm not mad at you, this isn't directed towards you in particular, the questions are rhetorical, but I've gotta say something on the "why do people still care hes stepped down" thing, honestly: When I receive emails from teenage gsf members who tell me that they are horrified that they were playing around the known-to-mittani pedophile, Xenuria, in Pochven squad unknowingly? When they express outrage that no one made any attempt to warn them, because there was a rule against accusations against Xenuria's pedophilia SPECIFICALLY established and enforced actively by The Mittani himself, what are the consequences for that? Because I, and others, have received those. What about individuals who, being minors at the time, allege that Xenuria, whilst being protected knowingly by Mittani, attempted sexually propositioning them over mumble and other GSF platforms? What is the read-only for that? Because I have seen those allegations as well, from multiple individuals. God knows what he has possibly done that's not been spoken of. I'm not posting any of what I've been told here, but (if it's okay with them) I can send (non-identifying) screen caps privately, or ask if any of those individuals will be willing to speak with you directly, if there's doubt in their validity. I'm not throwing out hypotheticals here, this is all stuff that I have been told, and seen people say, without any agenda for telling anyone besides "this was wrong". Taking that info consideration: Have you considered the greater repercussions of what very well could have happened to minors as a result of Mittani sending Xenuria to the all-ages CCP fanfest event in Iceland? How this was accomplished using GSF platformed support, while being shielded from allegations of Xenuria being a child sexual predator which were KNOWN to Mittani at the time? Do you realize JUST HOW hosed that is? This IS a hypothetical but: have you considered the VERY LIKELY possibility that Xenuria, while harbored by Mittani, sexually abused current or former underage members BEYOND propositions and creeping?
Everyone in gsf getting poo poo over this top to bottom, you are all picking the tab up for Mittani (and Innom's) messes right here, when you [I]clearly don't want to be, and should not have to: acknowledge, kickem, disavow their actions, and it'll return-to-sender. ties cut, problem solved. or don't. not my problem 'n either way im totally right v@___@v FirstnameLastname fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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Solus posted:lol if you don't think it'd be funnier that mittani gets booted for going inactive in a very powerful display of space paperwork pushing It’s perfect and inevitable and I love it.
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Bigbillthaboss posted:hey how is your confederate flag avatar is allowed in this thread? look how dumb you are 
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ded posted:look how dumb you are 
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atelier morgan posted:*goose wills it Mother Goose is a great thing to use please do
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I like 2 roll: 1. tide 2. coal 3. bad posts
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Elusif II posted:i'm gary Hi Gary
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I shot some pocos tonight.
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Gonna have to side with andromache on this one I think -- you guys are way the hell overestimating both the power he can wield and the merit of what he's planning to do. If Mittani was planning some sort of Comeback 2023 Tour or whatever, he sure as hell doesn't need to have a character in GSF. Jabber exists, discord exists, etc. (I think this was covered earlier?) Kicking Mittani's characters from GSF is a fairly unimportant gesture; I agree that it can be deferred so it can be done for a funny reason rather than as part of some orchestrated, vehement act of retribution. Besides, if the dude waddles back into the fold somehow, he can just be 86'd immediately and life goes on.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Gonna have to side with andromache on this one I think -- you guys are way the hell overestimating both the power he can wield and the merit of what he's planning to do. If Mittani was planning some sort of Comeback 2023 Tour or whatever, he sure as hell doesn't need to have a character in GSF. Jabber exists, discord exists, etc. (I think this was covered earlier?) Kicking Mittani's characters from GSF is a fairly unimportant gesture; I agree that it can be deferred so it can be done for a funny reason rather than as part of some orchestrated, vehement act of retribution. Besides, if the dude waddles back into the fold somehow, he can just be 86'd immediately and life goes on. The point here is that it’s literally the simplest and easiest gesture they can make and nobody has bothered. There’s a couple of reasons to not just do it: no one can be bothered, which means the afk directorate who doesn’t address issues problem is still in play. The second is no one gives a poo poo, which lol, that’s a problem. The Third is that nobody wants to wah wah this is unfair to dear leader. I won’t bother expanding on why that one is the worst look.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Besides, if the dude waddles back into the fold somehow, he can just be 86'd immediately and life goes on. it would be poetic if he tries to kramer his way back in and scores one of these in an EVE-theme 
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Rhymenoserous posted:The point here is that it’s literally the simplest and easiest gesture they can make and nobody has bothered. Or four, everyone else thinks my plan is funny af and you are a big ole fun blanket, smothering all the fun.
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Dalmuti posted:Delta's previous antics. What were the previous antics? Dalael posted:4- Blanket pardon & unbanning of those involved Isn't is fairly well stated that none of the people who were banned/kicked from GSF care to ever go back so the amnesty thing isn't really that needed given the bridges have been burned beyond repair at this point? 1001 Arabian dicks posted:people who made death threats, When was that? quote:the guy who leaked mittani's address Wait what? Mekchu fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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“Give GSF a chance, also they quite literally are incapable of booting the pedo sheltering ex ceo” Certainly one can understand how the message is, at best, mixed
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is there anyone who is ONLY asking that he be banned from GSF in game? im pretty sure the ask is for blacklist from services as well?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Gonna have to side with andromache on this one I think -- you guys are way the hell overestimating both the power he can wield and the merit of what he's planning to do. If Mittani was planning some sort of Comeback 2023 Tour or whatever, he sure as hell doesn't need to have a character in GSF. Jabber exists, discord exists, etc. (I think this was covered earlier?) Kicking Mittani's characters from GSF is a fairly unimportant gesture; I agree that it can be deferred so it can be done for a funny reason rather than as part of some orchestrated, vehement act of retribution. Besides, if the dude waddles back into the fold somehow, he can just be 86'd immediately and life goes on. Lmao hes planning on kicking mittens but only if they don't log in at any point over 43 days. If they do welp sorry only just middle management, can't stop that guess we tried, we care about those abused folks but enough about that we are enjoying eve tho.
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Just leave the goddamn alliance if you aren't down with how it's going. Spoiler- nothing fundamental is going to change, I'm not suggesting that Mittens is going to puppetmaster control of the alliance and multi-dollar media empire, but, all they've done is scapegoat Delta and beat their chest on reddit.
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andromache posted:Dude I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this to you since you've clearly got some preordered and presharpened axe that's done been ground, but come on. The Former Emperor of Goon Space FOR THE PAST TWELVE YEARS being quietly shuffled from the corporation by properly signed, sealed, and stamped space bureacracy is some of the funniest poo poo ever. He’ll just come back. If you’re actually pushing for banning and disavowing him I think that’s great, but this maneuver is pointless and I don’t know why you think it’s funny unless it’s supposed to be a self deprecating joke. What’s important for effective change in a situation like this is having organizational leadership explicitly say words and take actions that will be contradicted and thus make them look like liars or chumps or both if he returns, which creates a barrier that this doesn’t, just like allowing him to slink away quietly doesn’t. But we both know why that isn’t happening. Zodium fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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