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you're the grimgrog now, to the elves
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Aug 2, 2022 13:06
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Doesn't the dark elf AI love spamming SEMs and darkshards? I imagine that'd be fairly painful for a dwarf player compared to Grimgrog.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:11
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Archaeology Hat posted:Doesn't the dark elf AI love spamming SEMs and darkshards?
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Aug 2, 2022 13:13
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Randarkman posted:Seems like the fanatic launch ability has been changed some from how it was like at the end of Warhams. Not sure if that's deliberate or a mistake, as there are several outright mistakes rather than true bugs it seems in the early access version used by streamers, like how Tyrion has both martial prowess and mastery and seemingly stuff like the damage output of razordons being completely busted. They changed it so it launches from the banner of the night goblin unit rather than being a weird short ranged wind spell where you could summon them down the flanks of who you were fighting through the power of goblin teleportation technology. It's a fairly big nerf because it means fanatic units don't get to do optimal wind spell placement on every fanatic launch, but it does make a lot more sense than the fanatics appearing out of thin air on the side of the unit you were fighting. Archaeology Hat posted:Doesn't the dark elf AI love spamming SEMs and darkshards? Darkshards will rip dwarfs to shreds but grudge throwers will rip darkshards to shreds. It will be excruciatingly painful for the dwarfs until they get their artillery building online and then they can just bring 5 grudge throwers and kill the entire dark elf ranged line before they get to shoot. Malekith himself is significantly less threatening to dwarfs than Grimgor is very early game; dwarfs resist his early magic fairly well, and Malekith will actually get straight dumpstered in a 1v1 fight by Grombrindal pre-chariot or dragon. Kanos fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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Aug 2, 2022 13:13
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SEMs are a problem for Dwarfs? You just take your thunderers and cannon and focus them to oblivion. Multiplayer battles obviously aren't close to how things go down in campaign, but in Warhammer 2 battles with Dwarfs (where they were a low-tier faction but still had some big strengths as a counterpick against certain factions) you basically avoided giving them any large single entity targets. Because they will just dunk on them mercilessly.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:19
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Yeah I was wary about the fanatics since I know they've been changed but don't know how badly it impacts them.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:24
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Randarkman posted:At least Grimgrog is far away He's actually very small.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:27
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Should give Grimgrog the Attila TW Hun AI if you play dwarfs.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:32
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Carcer posted:Yeah I was wary about the fanatics since I know they've been changed but don't know how badly it impacts them. If you flank-charge instead of charge head-on they are roughly as effective before because of how they launch.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:36
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I do miss early Hams 1 when sometimes grimgrog would roll up on karaz a Karack with a waaagh stack in the first ten turns
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Aug 2, 2022 13:37
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Got Durthu. No shade on him, but he doesn’t seem like the best guy for seeing all the new stuff.
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Aug 2, 2022 13:50
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Dr Christmas posted:Got Durthu. No shade on him, but he doesn’t seem like the best guy for seeing all the new stuff. You can freely teleport to any of the magical forests and it sure seems like some are in the Ind/Cathay region based on the names, so there is that. Not perfect, but it's there. Going to the Sisters' start or confederating them also gives you what seems like quick access to a port and sea-lane as well. Not the best. Definitely not the worst. Also immunity to all attrition and a lot of reason to wardec everyone helps!
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Aug 2, 2022 13:57
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Yeah any Wood Elf faction is a pretty good faction to go travelling with given the whole teleport to a big tree to make the trees happy thing. There are big trees in all the areas with new interesting stuff apart from like the far north of the map too.
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Dr Christmas posted:Got Durthu. No shade on him, but he doesn’t seem like the best guy for seeing all the new stuff. I'd say he's one of the best! You can go pretty much wherever you like and not worry about attrition. If that's still a thing of his, you can wade through chaos land and stomp hordes of marauder gym bros with no problem at all.
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99pct of germs posted:
I mean, in terms of a dwarf pull, this is going to be the most interesting one, given his start location. Go beat up Malekith and take his lunch money, then go beat up his mom too. Then sail over to the donut and bully the high elves. The grudge must be settled. Re: Skarsnik - is should be an interesting matchup between him and Thorgrim. Sneaky Skulkers don't really have the melee defense to really stand and fight with dwarves, so you can't really just use them as the front line, you have to use them as flankers or else they suck and die. So obviously the AI will always do this. The good news is since the Grom DLC, you have a lot more answers to low tier dwarves. T2 trolls & pump wagons do absolutely gangbusters against dwarves and give you a proper hammer unit and you can be recruiting them by like turn 5. Skarsnik's absolute best early-mid game unit will be his squig riders, and once you add his leader and red line bonuses to them will absolutely thrash anything they come in contact with. Edit - and don't forget, his faction makes goblins dirt cheap. Like 40 gold a card, and under a goblin lord they can be buffed to pretty rediculous ends, unlike a lot of races cheap filter units (IE, zombies / deckhands will never really trade up the way that lord buffed goblins will). DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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Aug 2, 2022 14:28
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DeathSandwich posted:I mean, in terms of a dwarf pull, this is going to be the most interesting one, given his start location. Go beat up Malekith and take his lunch money, then go beat up his mom too. Then sail over to the donut and bully the high elves. Yeah but knowing how CA "balances" factions they'll give him frozen as habitable climate but make temperate island and wasteland inhospitable or something stupid.
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Aug 2, 2022 14:34
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DeathSandwich posted:I mean, in terms of a dwarf pull, this is going to be the most interesting one, given his start location. Go beat up Malekith and take his lunch money, then go beat up his mom too. Then sail over to the donut and bully the high elves. The grudge with the elves in general was settled by taking the high kings hat, Malekith needs some personal dunking on though.
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Aug 2, 2022 14:43
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We take a break from our regularly scheduled Arghy dunking to bring you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0emnNGcfCM https://www.totalwar.com/blog/tww3-introducing-vilitch/
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Aug 2, 2022 15:01
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LostRook posted:We take a break from our regularly scheduled Arghy dunking to bring you: Not too much information there yet, but supposedly an LP is coming tomorrow. Cheaper teleport and he (they?) get buffs to MA/MD and spell mastery when casting or fighting seem to be the highlights.
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Aug 2, 2022 15:17
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I'm glad they properly captured how gross Villitch looks
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Aug 2, 2022 15:18
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It takes a Villitch to raze an empire
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Aug 2, 2022 15:49
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Vilitch’s IE start position will be in the northeastern most territory, across the Great Bastion: https://mobile.twitter.com/totalwar/status/1554477761795969026
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yea I approve of this, Vilitch is an appropriately nasty lil guy and I think this'll be a fun variant to play with
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really digging the look of the Tzeentch champions. CA is really blowing it out of the park with this DLC
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Kazzah posted:It takes a Villitch to raze an empire 
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One of the comments said the faction should be called Vilitch People and I'm on board with that.
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Lucinice posted:I'm glad they properly captured how gross Villitch looks The choreography of the reveal trailer where Vilitch slithers his nasty rear end into view and even the nurgle warrior is like "jesus christ what the gently caress is that" is fantastic.
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Yeah he looks properly creepy. Unless that passive really bolsters his magic a lot I’m a bit worried that they’ll be the worst performing lord by a good bit, though. Like I’ll still play it and have a good time but it’s hard to go to slow foot caster, even if they’re a melee beast, from the super maneuverable casters Tzeentch has.
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So Villitch is the little guy? Who's his ride?
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Deketh posted:So Villitch is the little guy? Who's his ride? His brother. Thomen I think? Thomin?
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Anno posted:Yeah he looks properly creepy. Unless that passive really bolsters his magic a lot I’m a bit worried that they’ll be the worst performing lord by a good bit, though. Like I’ll still play it and have a good time but it’s hard to go to slow foot caster, even if they’re a melee beast, from the super maneuverable casters Tzeentch has. idk, Festus also seems to be a slow foot caster
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From the Steam news update:quote:Hello Total War: WARHAMMER community! Today we’re revealing the third Legendary Lord joining the Champions of Chaos Lords pack—Vilitch the Curseling—coming to Total War: WARHAMMER III on August 23rd.
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Archaeology Hat posted:idk, Festus also seems to be a slow foot caster He is, but he’s also of the support lord variety, which I think can work better with that. If he’s just stuck in to a bunch of infantry mortising them all down or healing Chosen or something he can still be powerful even if he isn’t super killy himself.
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Anno posted:His brother. Thomen I think? Thomin? Oh neat, always like to see a family double act. Personally I thought this trailer was the weaker of the 3 so far, the javelins seemed a bit... meh. But Villitch did indeed seem creeptastic when he popped up and he should have lots of creepy fun out in the corner by himself.
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Dr Christmas posted:Vilitch’s IE start position will be in the northeastern most territory, across the Great Bastion: Heey, I was kind of correct in expecting him to start somewhere near the great bastion. Though to be honest I didn't expect him that far east and by the coast.
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As someone who hasn’t had much of an interest in Chaos before, can anyone explain to me why in these Champions videos, Chaos is always fighting Chaos? I was just wondering because it seemed like in the lead up to WH3, all the trailers generally depicted Chaos against “Order.”
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Deketh posted:Oh neat, always like to see a family double act. Fun (?) fact, not only is Vilitch controlling his brother's body, he's also controlling all his Chaos Warriors as well. It's why they look particularly robotic/automaton in the trailer. a peck of pickled peckers posted:As someone who hasn’t had much of an interest in Chaos before, can anyone explain to me why in these Champions videos, Chaos is always fighting Chaos? I was just wondering because it seemed like in the lead up to WH3, all the trailers generally depicted Chaos against “Order.” Khrone hates Slaanesh, Tzeentch hates Nurgle. Note they're fighting their respective hated rival in the trailers so far. Plus this DLC's push is all the Chaos factions fighting over a MacGuffin city. Additionally, Chaos unifying together under someone like Archaon/a powerful warlord is the exception, not the norm. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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a peck of pickled peckers posted:As someone who hasn’t had much of an interest in Chaos before, can anyone explain to me why in these Champions videos, Chaos is always fighting Chaos? I was just wondering because it seemed like in the lead up to WH3, all the trailers generally depicted Chaos against “Order.” I could be wrong, but I think the gist of it is that Chaos tribes fight among themselves until there's big enough force, then a unifying push is made into order lands.
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a peck of pickled peckers posted:As someone who hasn’t had much of an interest in Chaos before, can anyone explain to me why in these Champions videos, Chaos is always fighting Chaos? I was just wondering because it seemed like in the lead up to WH3, all the trailers generally depicted Chaos against “Order.” A big reason why Chaos has so much trouble conquering the world and destroying everything is because the Chaos gods are rivals and hate each other with varying degrees of intensity. So they're enemies of the order factions, but also frequently enemies of each other; the big world-destroying invasions generally only happen when temporary truces are agreed to and all the squabbling tribes and warbands are united under someone strong enough to force them to do so(the so-called Everchosen). Smaller invasions do occur when someone strong enough kicks enough people into line, as well. Khorne especially hates Slaanesh(and vice versa) and Nurgle especially hates Tzeentch(and vice versa), but this doesn't mean that Tzeentch really likes Slaanesh or Khorne likes Nurgle.
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