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KoRMaK posted:so the car is carrying the weight of more batteries but isn't allowed to access them? Does the battery weigh more? I could be wrong, (turns out I am wrong, should have checked before posting) but I believe that the answer is no. IIRC, the 90 is better tech than the 60. If not, well that's the kind of thing that happens when you buy an old car that was once bleeding edge. Original owner's 60 KWHr battery craps out. There is no direct replacement part. Tesla installs a 90 KWHr battery and forgets to lock it to 60 KWHr. Who's the bad guy here? If there is one, it's the guy who sold it as a 90. FWIW, the guy who bought it runs a Tesla repair shop and says that he's very knowledgeable about Teslas and has a good relationship with Tesla. He's not a typical buyer. In a court of law, it would be argued that he has expert knowledge, should have realized that there was an issue, and therefore has some of the liability (in addition to the previous owner). Edit:: According to this site, https://weightofstuff.com/how-much-does-a-tesla-battery-weigh/ The 90 KWHr pack is 400 lbs heavier than the 60 KWHr pack Safe to guess that a court would assign partial liability to all three parties. Tesla for not locking it. The previous owner for rebadging and selling as a 90. And the 'expert' buyer for not anticipating the problem. HawkHill fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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Sorry your double cheeseburger had wriggling maggots in it. As recompense we're going to give you this 8oz ribeye since we're out of burgers but we rubbed our asses on 30% of it because otherwise you'd be getting too much. Blame the guy who told you our food was good
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It's also really kinda lovely from an environmental point of view to put in a 90kWh battery (which uses a lot more resources) and then literally wasting 30kWh of its capacity. I'd like a law that states that any installed battery capacity should be fully usable, except for the part needed for uneven wear leveling of cells and the part often remaining unused to prolong the life span of the battery.
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ex-loving-scuse me? https://twitter.com/itsmehaleyyyyy/status/1552108842913337345?s=20&t=qsILh41u97sb-pd9yzfgNQ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-hyundai-subsidiary-has-used-child-labor-alabama-factory-2022-07-22/ quote:LUVERNE, Alabama, July 22 (Reuters) - A subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Co has used child labor at a plant that supplies parts for the Korean carmaker's assembly line in nearby Montgomery, Alabama, according to area police, the family of three underage workers, and eight former and current employees of the factory. Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:ex-loving-scuse me? Oh I hope the parents get castrated too.
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Humphreys posted:Oh I hope the parents get castrated too. Lol wtf. According to the article it looks like it's mostly migrant families being exploited who perhaps arent aware of the labour laws and/or are in more need of extra income. Why would you even say that?
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fridge corn posted:Lol wtf. According to the article it looks like it's mostly migrant families being exploited who perhaps arent aware of the labour laws and/or are in more need of extra income. Why would you even say that? Didn't see that bit. But still... sending your kids out at 12 to work and not school...
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In this economy, you have to raise as many kids as survive infancy to work
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When I was six my job was to drive the tractor in the family farm, and it was pretty nice. Maybe designate those teenagers as forklift drivers.
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Humphreys posted:Didn't see that bit. But still... sending your kids out at 12 to work and not school... I know its not really a thing anymore, (except in third world states like Alabama?) but thats what happened with my grandad. He was 12 and working 60 hours a week slinging slabs of meat at a slaughter house. Back in Ye olden days, if you were poor, the eldest kids went to work to help support the family. Grandad was the oldest so thats what he did. I should ask my dad if he ever went back to school, but I figure I might already know what the answer is.
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:I know its not really a thing anymore, (except in third world states like Alabama?) but thats what happened with my grandad. He was 12 and working 60 hours a week slinging slabs of meat at a slaughter house. In the south this is very much still the case.
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Humphreys posted:Oh I hope the parents get castrated too. Yes, yes punish the poor for trying to survive under capitalism and not the corporations knowingly exploiting them and lobbying against policies that would prevent these situations from happening.
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Apparently lots of Hyundais and Kias are easy to steal so now it's a Tik Tok challenge https://www.yahoo.com/news/tiktok-kia-challenge-fuels-rise-041841535.html
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Apparently lots of Hyundais and Kias are easy to steal so now it's a Tik Tok challenge In this part of the world Hyundai/Kia all have immobilisers but common Japanese market nana cars like the Mazda Demio (2) and Toyota Aqua (Prius C) don't so they're the main theft target for joyriders.
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Humphreys posted:Didn't see that bit. But still... sending your kids out at 12 to work and not school...
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dissss posted:In this part of the world Hyundai/Kia all have immobilisers but common Japanese market nana cars like the Mazda Demio (2) and Toyota Aqua (Prius C) don't so they're the main theft target for joyriders. The Prius C isn’t much of a joy ride lol
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Applebees Appetizer posted:The Prius C isn’t much of a joy ride lol Fastest car you'll never own. Because you stole it.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:The Prius C isn’t much of a joy ride lol The teenagers doing it don't give a gently caress, especially when they finish the night off by ram raiding a gas station or convenience store. Caught up with a buddy the other day who works for an insurance company, some of these cars are getting written off with only a wrecked ignition and front door quarter light because it's so common that we're sucking up the global supply of those parts and they can't be had for months, and customers can't wait. He said his company has a yard full of repairable cars waiting for parts cos it's cheaper to ride it out than send them to damaged auction now for a fraction of the value. Apparently the price for new ignition and window has tripled.
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If it's as big a problem as they say, why aren't insurance companies sending their clients $45-$100 club devices, or cable locks that wrap the steering wheel? Cheap insurance against having to pay for a whole car that gets taken. Might not prevent the busted window, and won't prevent someone who really wants your car from taking it, but will definitely defend against a crime of opportunity like a joyride, or at least make sure it isn't your car.
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NoWake posted:If it's as big a problem as they say, why aren't insurance companies sending their clients $45-$100 club devices, or cable locks that wrap the steering wheel? Cheap insurance against having to pay for a whole car that gets taken. Might not prevent the busted window, and won't prevent someone who really wants your car from taking it, but will definitely defend against a crime of opportunity like a joyride, or at least make sure it isn't your car. Probably because people wouldn't actually use them often enough to make it worth their while.
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NoWake posted:If it's as big a problem as they say, why aren't insurance companies sending their clients $45-$100 club devices, or cable locks that wrap the steering wheel? Cheap insurance against having to pay for a whole car that gets taken. Might not prevent the busted window, and won't prevent someone who really wants your car from taking it, but will definitely defend against a crime of opportunity like a joyride, or at least make sure it isn't your car. Probably because you can remove a club lock in like 10 seconds with a hunk of pipe with a bend on it.
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Apparently not. With the Demio/Aqua I can understand it - those are Japanese market cars never intended to end up where theft is common but I don't see why Hyundai/Kia would choose to omit them from US market cars.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:Caught up with a buddy the other day who works for an insurance company, some of these cars are getting written off with only a wrecked ignition and front door quarter light because it's so common that we're sucking up the global supply of those parts and they can't be had for months, and customers can't wait. He said his company has a yard full of repairable cars waiting for parts cos it's cheaper to ride it out than send them to damaged auction now for a fraction of the value. Apparently the price for new ignition and window has tripled. Surprised they get given the option - every time I've made a claim the insurance company has told me I just have to wait to get the car back.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Why is it so easy to steal these cars? Don’t they have key fob interlocks? The specific models are used imports from Japan and base models at that, and no, no immobilisers required in their intended market. It's only the base models that use key ignitions, higher trim cars with push start DO have immobilisers. On top of that, the Aqua is easy to get in to because of the tiny quarter light in the front window that's easily and quietly smashed and doesn't stand out when you're driving it around since it's behind the mirror. In the case of the Demio, I think you can just kick the door in the right place and it pops the lock. dissss posted:Surprised they get given the option - every time I've made a claim the insurance company has told me I just have to wait to get the car back. I was too, but seemingly this is the course they've taken to keep people happy. There's plenty of replacement cars available, but telling the customer they have absolutely no idea when the parts can come in isn't going down well, plus for a lot of people they'll be forking out for rental cars for months on end too. My car goes to the panel beaters tomorrow for a new rear bumper from a minor rear-ending. I took it in for them to assess and quote in February. February 2021.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:I was too, but seemingly this is the course they've taken to keep people happy. There's plenty of replacement cars available, but telling the customer they have absolutely no idea when the parts can come in isn't going down well, plus for a lot of people they'll be forking out for rental cars for months on end too. The rental one is interesting - some insurance companies cap it at 14 days regardless of how long repairs take, some will pay until the claim is settled (whatever that means). Someone caved in the side of my car a couple of weeks back and the panel shop says they 'might' be able to fit it in before the end of September (yeah right). Fortunately the doors still open and close okay so at least I can use it in the interim.
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Driving in cars where I can't see poo poo stresses me the gently caress out. https://twitter.com/e587b8e587b9/status/1553987860235034624?s=20&t=uvc2tBCduC6APZMAiagFaA
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Driving in cars where I can't see poo poo stresses me the gently caress out. I barely drive it, but when I do, my missus' Suzuki Grand Vitara is amazing for it's blind spots. And thats a tiny thing. I'm saying this as an owner of a VE commie that has an A Pillar that literally hides oncoming traffic on corners, and rear quarter pillars that make you rely on the sensors and camera.
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The Urus Super SUV Accounts for Most of Lamborghini's Sales Nowquote:That sky-high revenue came as the firm delivered 5,090 cars during the period. The shocking stat is that the vast majority of these models weren’t supercars like the Aventador or Huracán that the brand is known for. Instead, the firm’s Urus SUV accounted for 61 percent of its sales so far this year.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Driving in cars where I can't see poo poo stresses me the gently caress out. I see the point they are trying to make and don't disagree with the fact that most essyoooveeez today are way bigger than they should be, but all those kids were sitting, not standing. I kinda wonder how many of them went away thinking "well, ok thats fine, hopefully I LOLOLO don't have a line up of kids sitting in front of my status symbol". Perhaps they should have also (maybe they did, but didn't show it) had each kid walk directly in front of it, like basically right up against the bumper, while pointing out that the kids would be just about equally obscured standing up. Some of the taller ones maybe just having the tops of their heads/hair showing. Something thats easily missed, if you decide to check your phone at a stop sign or other cross walk for example. 
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Oh no, the ruined purity of a tractor company  Edit: Darchangel posted:So, like Porsche, Lamborghini is a truck manufacturer that happens to make sporty cars, too, now. No, they're sports car companies that wisely milk a higher volume cash cow to fund making a dozen special editions of the same sports car. BuckyDoneGun fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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