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STAC Goat posted:I don’t think “HBO is gonna abandon all movies and tv shows and just be reality shows” is really a rational theory and as best as I can tell the only thing justifying it is some cancelations. Not HBO. HBO Max. HBO will be nothing but Game Of Thrones spin-offs, though.
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STAC Goat posted:I haven’t read any of the articles on my phone but do any of them say it’s because the movie sucked? Between the general production train wreck of the DCEU and the WB/Discovery stuff things just seem like a mess over there right now. Like could it be because Batgirl relies heavily on Flash and Miller sent that into limbo making Batgirl collateral damage? NY Post is the only outlet saying outright that the movie is bad, and I'd take that with a grain of salt. The Wrap says that the movie "didn't work," but that seems in context to be more in relation to Zaslav mandating that DC films should be big $200 million tentpoles than to the film's quality.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It wasn't just some cancellations. They cancelled ALL scripted content on TNT and TBS and most new scripted content in development for HBOMax. The stated reason given by the CEO was that scripted shows were too expensive. And no, don't ask why they bought a company mainly known for scripted content, shut up that's why
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My new operating theory is that DC is literally cursed. With actual magic.
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Arist posted:Was about to say this, yeah, RIP Blue Beetle Blue Beetle already got upgraded to a theatrical release, which could mean that WB execs see it as more of a blockbuster tentpole than Batgirl. But if they're willing to scrap a completed $90 million superhero film, I definitely can't rule out Blue Beetle meeting the same fate.
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Other folks probably know more than I, but it sounds like they were planning on the Flash to have some kind of reboot or multiverse impact with Keaton as Batman, and Keaton was supposed to be in Batgirl. So if this came out, the question would be "Who's Batman?" Pattinson? Keaton? Affleck? Shazam and other stuff can skip over those questions. Plus, WB was recently bought, and those owners probably want to start off with good stuff and blame failures on the past The Batgirl movie is probably ok and a fine waste of time, but it seems to have no proponents in DC HQ, and they'd rather scrap it and look like idiots once, instead of being laughed at every time someone watches another mediocre DC movie
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Aug 2, 2022 22:59
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Word on twitter (so take with more than a pinch of salt) from people who know people who have seen it ranges between that it was "dissapointing" and looked "cheap", to that it was "OK" and "far from a disaster".
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Given that it was already shot and in post, and that if it was completely finished there'd be no downside in dumping it on HBO Max, the most likely scenario is that everything was done but the effects work, the budget for that came in at like $30-50 million, and Zaslav -- who didn't green-light the project and doesn't give a gently caress about it -- would rather flush $90 million he didn't personally authorize spending down the toilet than spend another dollar of his own money on it.
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Michael Keaton must be cursed He agrees to come back as Batman after like 30 years and somehow both of his film appearances appear to be destined to go in the vault
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fwiw https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1554580720076566529 https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1554583322805735425
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FlamingLiberal posted:Michael Keaton must be cursed Even though they are still thinking about shelving it, I can't believe that they would light almost a quarter of a billion dollars on fire right after lighting $100 million on fire a few months earlier when the company is massively overleveraged. It makes no financial sense at all to light over 1/3 of a billion dollars on fire in a year after a merger that left the company hugely in debt.
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Aug 2, 2022 23:12
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I want to see it now
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Another angle on this: Why would anyone want to work on a DC project if they have another option? People negotiating with DC get the chance to have their work insulted and never seen, and that's ignoring the harassment shitshows in previous movies.
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Ms. Marvel and Bad Boys For Life are enjoyable enough to make WB's claims that it's unreleasable sound like bull poo poo.
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I know people who've seen it, and while some have had positive things to say they're also the ones I don't think I've heard dislike any movie, ever. Mostly I've heard it's real bad.
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Quality doesn't really matter in this decision. Even if it was bad you put it out and still get something out of it. That's the decision you make if you're a normal media company not run by the guy who turned a suite of educational channels into a mélange of unscripted garbo TV
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Blockhouse posted:Quality doesn't really matter in this decision. Even if it was bad you put it out and still get something out of it. That's the decision you make if you're a normal media company not run by the guy who turned a suite of educational channels into a mélange of unscripted garbo TV Wildly more successful garbo TV though.
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The Gray Man was hot garbage and Netflix's turning it into a franchise.
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live with fruit posted:The Gray Man was hot garbage and Netflix's turning it into a franchise. Sony released Morbius TWICE
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live with fruit posted:The Gray Man was hot garbage and Netflix's turning it into a franchise. They are hoping to make money from it, though. They didn't fund it, film it, complete it, and then throw it away.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Michael Keaton must be cursed he's still got Morbius YOU ALL STILL HAVE MORBIUS Splint Chesthair posted:Sony released Morbius TWICE 
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I feel bad for Brendan Fraser. He's still got that Aronofsky movie but this was going to be part of the Frasessance.
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Aug 2, 2022 23:37
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if this is true then Batgirl is just the opening move https://twitter.com/gracerandolph/status/1554556706839052289
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They can’t possibly be folding HBOMax into a discovery+. I mean… That’s not believable. Right?
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Blockhouse posted:if this is true then Batgirl is just the opening move ...what the gently caress did they even buy it for? It's like buying a vintage car and not even stripping it for parts, but just melting down the metal.
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Blockhouse posted:if this is true then Batgirl is just the opening move Disney does not actually have a patent on the concept of spending money on stuff people want to watch, other entertainment companies. You're allowed to do that too!
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even though they are still thinking about shelving it, I can't believe that they would light almost a quarter of a billion dollars on fire right after lighting $100 million on fire a few months earlier when the company is massively overleveraged. It makes no financial sense at all to light over 1/3 of a billion dollars on fire in a year after a merger that left the company hugely in debt. I'm sure there's some sort of insurance payout or tax write off or some other form of creative Hollywood accounting that makes this not that bad of a loss.
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Blockhouse posted:if this is true then Batgirl is just the opening move This is incredibly stupid from a business perspective because Discovery Plus is really a whole bunch of nothing, and HBO Max got a bunch of subscribers during the pandemic when WB put like half of their theatrical releases on the service in 2020.
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I mean, yes, bubble and all but who the gently caress actually even HAS Discovery+ at the moment? Like, would it just be a way to pad 'their' service's numbers by making all the HBO Max subs count for them as 'growth'?
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Am I going to need a North Korean sponsored hacker group to hack WB-Discovery in order to see a dang Batgirl movie?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Well I guess I can go ahead and cancel that service soon HBOMax is being folded into Discovery+. So, you'd get all the HBOMax stuff + Discovery+ stuff for one subscription. The original HBOMax exclusive content is getting axed, but they could do that without merging.
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Gaz-L posted:...what the gently caress did they even buy it for? It's like buying a vintage car and not even stripping it for parts, but just melting down the metal. I think it was a merger, not a purchase? I don't know what difference that really makes.
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I pay actual money for HBO+ and I don't have a loving clue what's even on Discovery. So I suppose I'll be saving 15 bucks a month, good job big brain executives.
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Aphrodite posted:I think it was a merger, not a purchase? I don't know what difference that really makes. Yeah, it was a merger. AT&T spun off their entertainment division and it merged with Discovery to form a new company. AT&T got paid out and is focusing only on telecom stuff now.
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Gaz-L posted:I mean, yes, bubble and all but who the gently caress actually even HAS Discovery+ at the moment? One funny thing I remember is that they had planned to move all new Restaurant Impossible episodes exclusively on Discovery+, but people complained enough that they had to change their mind.
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I currently have Discovery+ because it was 99 cents and I figured why not? And yeah there’s nothing. I just can’t fathom the idea of folding the massive inventory of the widely popular and arguably best streaming app HBOMax into some random + no one has. Yeah maybe some accounting magic to report boosted subscribers but you kill HBOMax to do that. That makes no sense. I’m sorry. I can’t believe that until it actually happens. That’s just nonsense.
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What's going to happen to Peacekeeper you guys? What's going to the shining star of DC tv/movies?
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Yeah it isn't available on Playstation. Lol I hope they get rid of hbo and put it on a streaming service I can not access
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