crepeface posted:

lol yeah I thought poo poo was popping off.

TheNamedSavior posted:

If its okay to pretend that Xi is a amazing chad male who never does anything wrong, and just so happens to be a perfect communist despite having factories with conditions so great that we need nets to prevent them from killing themselves, then provide a source that proofs the killings were america's fault, and that china has never done anything like this to any person.

Mola Yam posted:

no westerner has ever been driven to suicide by their job

this is an exotic quirk of the communist oriental

Mola Yam posted:

no westerner has ever been driven to suicide by their job

this is an exotic quirk of the communist oriental

webcams for christ posted:

lmao at tms only replying to the snide one-liners and ignoring every substantive post

why are you encouraging him

Cerebral Bore posted:

fun fact (or technically not so fun fact), at about the same time as the foxconn suicides there was an even larger suicide wave at france télécom. weird how you never hear about that one

quote:

BEIJING, April 1, 2022— Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty. At China’s current national poverty line, the number of poor fell by 770 million over the same period.

Turtle Watch posted:

You know China has elections right? How are we supposed to take you seriously when the most basic of your assertions are laughably false?

TheNamedSavior posted:

Because these people are defending an country that has been proven to be awful to many of its citizens time and time again by using the tactics that were used to defend imperialistic countries such as britian and america in the past, even if China is genociding culture at our doorstep.

Literally the fact that there's no elections should be proof of that alone. But sure. It's perfect, and don't ask for sources. Don't ask how Tibet is treated in the MODERN day, they were a dictatorship back then, therefore that must mean they're a utopia now, right?

Re:Tibet, the CPC still treats Tibet poorly and saying "well, the theocratic government was evil, therefore NOTHING IS WRONG," is like saying that the american rape of the Natives is justified because some of them used slaves. Education is still bad, working conditions are still poor, many Tibetans are forced to work as poorly paid labors by western hikers to make a buck, their freedom of speech is greatly restricted, not to mention the environment there is getting worse due to them building factories there that provide smoke and fog. They went from cow poo poo to dog poo poo. Both suck, one is clearly an bigger improvement, but they still could be treated better.

Stop loving defending a dictatorship. End of story.

And Marx was very adament about worker conditions, he wouldn't have tolierated the decision to let apple abuse their workers to near death there.

TheNamedSavior posted:

It's perfect, and don't ask for sources.

TheNamedSavior posted:

Literally the fact that there's no elections should be proof of that alone.

TheNamedSavior posted:

Please look up what an red harring fallacy is.

I'm sick of the idea that if you don't point out that western countries also treat people like poo poo, you're automatically wrong for not seeing the cpc as perfect?

So which is it? Is the cpc the brave hero who's protecting from capitalism, or are they just as bad as any other country? Why is it okay if the suicide rate there isn't as bad as frances?

TheNamedSavior posted:

Please look up what an red harring fallacy is.

I'm sick of the idea that if you don't point out that western countries also treat people like poo poo, you're automatically wrong for not seeing the cpc as perfect?

So which is it? Is the cpc the brave hero who's protecting from capitalism, or are they just as bad as any other country? Why is it okay if the suicide rate there isn't as bad as frances?

Cerebral Bore posted:

i sometimes wonder if any first world anarchist has ever stopped and asked themselves why the bourgeois state has trained them to instinctively hate and fear the only form of socialism that has ever actually succeeded in overthrowing capitalism, but this question is quickly answered every time i have the misfortune of encountering one

TheNamedSavior posted:

Because these people are defending an country that has been proven to be awful to many of its citizens time and time again by using the tactics that were used to defend imperialistic countries such as britian and america in the past, even if China is genociding culture at our doorstep.

Literally the fact that there's no elections should be proof of that alone. But sure. It's perfect, and don't ask for sources. Don't ask how Tibet is treated in the MODERN day, they were a dictatorship back then, therefore that must mean they're a utopia now, right?

Re:Tibet, the CPC still treats Tibet poorly and saying "well, the theocratic government was evil, therefore NOTHING IS WRONG," is like saying that the american rape of the Natives is justified because some of them used slaves. Education is still bad, working conditions are still poor, many Tibetans are forced to work as poorly paid labors by western hikers to make a buck, their freedom of speech is greatly restricted, not to mention the environment there is getting worse due to them building factories there that provide smoke and fog. They went from cow poo poo to dog poo poo. Both suck, one is clearly an bigger improvement, but they still could be treated better.

Stop loving defending a dictatorship. End of story.

And Marx was very adament about worker conditions, he wouldn't have tolierated the decision to let apple abuse their workers to near death there.

gradenko_2000 posted:

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TheNamedSavior posted:

Please look up what an red harring fallacy is.

I'm sick of the idea that if you don't point out that western countries also treat people like poo poo, you're automatically wrong for not seeing the cpc as perfect?

So which is it? Is the cpc the brave hero who's protecting from capitalism, or are they just as bad as any other country? Why is it okay if the suicide rate there isn't as bad as frances?

TheNamedSavior posted:

Why the gently caress are there mass protests of women in painted blood? Why the gently caress are people who video game too much forced into camps where they're treated horribly in the name of "curing them".

TheNamedSavior posted:

Please stop loving pretending cpc is communist. Why would they let apple and other loving companies ruin the environment on their lawn? Why the gently caress are there mass protests of women in painted blood? Why the gently caress are people who video game too much forced into camps where they're treated horribly in the name of "curing them".

Technically I've never said I was an Anarchist, I don't even loving consider myself one. I just pointed out that as an example of someone who wouldn't be a liberal that would hate the cpc. loving China is full of rich ceos all the time, that isn't marxism.

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol what the gently caress

TheNamedSavior posted:

Please stop loving pretending cpc is communist. Why would they let apple and other loving companies ruin the environment on their lawn? Why the gently caress are there mass protests of women in painted blood? Why the gently caress are people who video game too much forced into camps where they're treated horribly in the name of "curing them".

Technically I've never said I was an Anarchist, I don't even loving consider myself one. I just pointed out that as an example of someone who wouldn't be a liberal that would hate the cpc. loving China is full of rich ceos all the time, that isn't marxism.

exmarx posted:

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

DiscountDildos posted:

Your bit is stupid and you're making GBS threads up the thread gently caress off and go away

TheNamedSavior posted:

Please stop loving pretending cpc is communist. Why would they let apple and other loving companies ruin the environment on their lawn? Why the gently caress are there mass protests of women in painted blood? Why the gently caress are people who video game too much forced into camps where they're treated horribly in the name of "curing them".

Raskolnikov38 posted:

video games are mind poison

R. Guyovich posted:

lmao this is a new one, i will admit. trying to imagine what's going on in that head of yours

Tankbuster posted:

The CPC shut down parts of the country, let people stay at home and provided food/rations to facilitate staying in place. It's geopolitical competitor told old people to go out and vote for a braindead man because his wife Dr Jill told him it would be OK.

R. Guyovich posted:

lmao this is a new one, i will admit. trying to imagine what's going on in that head of yours

TheNamedSavior posted:

Great ableism.