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MrMojok posted:When it's all over with he will sue his lawyer, I'm sure. https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1554956591807488002 He was contemplating suing his lawyers even before they basically published ALL_MY_CrIMES.pdf on GitHub for literally every District Attorney in America to grab a copy of to pursue legal action with. That's how bad this trial has been going for him already.
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LMAO! I guess what it comes down to is, every lawyer knows he's an idiot who simply can not shut up, who would self-destruct and hand the win over to the plaintiffs, so this is the only caliber of lawyer that's even willing to take him on as a client. There was a moment yesterday when his lawyer talked about the judge making a motion, and she quickly corrected him, saying "a judge doesn't issue motions, a judge issues orders" Stuff like that has been ongoing, and then of course today, this atomic bomb of a revelation.
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1554956591807488002 I've been trying all day but I can't remember or find a bigger and more disastrous fuckup in the justice system. Yes, that includes OJ.
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Aug 4, 2022 03:28
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I asked a lawyer friend of mine how hosed Jones' attorney is because of this, and he said there is a possibility the attorney found something in there that he would have to disclose in discovery under this principle: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exception-the-attorney-client-privilege.html (and the texts in this data sure sound like they would both be evidence of perjury and crucial evidence to the case, which would both be mandatory to disclose in discovery, if I am understanding that correctly) The other possibility is he dun goofed, and could be disbarred.
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Jaxyon posted:https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/28/alex-jones-sandy-hook-january-6/ There's a great documentary called "United States of Conspiracy" from PBS that outlines exactly how all this went down and is essential viewing for anyone who wants to understand the whole thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJTMGG6aEoI https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/united-states-of-conspiracy/
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Aug 4, 2022 03:33
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Y'all. What the gently caress. lol I mean as I was saying....
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Neorxenawang posted:I asked a lawyer friend of mine how hosed Jones' attorney is because of this, and he said there is a possibility the attorney found something in there that he would have to disclose in discovery under this principle: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exception-the-attorney-client-privilege.html (and the texts in this data sure sound like they would both be evidence of perjury and crucial evidence to the case, which would both be mandatory to disclose in discovery, if I am understanding that correctly) Like at this point you almost kind of have to wonder, did they do it intentionally? Has his entire legal representation for this case up to this point been, and this is weirdly appropriate for Alex Jones in general and this case in particular, a massive false flag operation where the defense attorney, upon seeing the contents of Jones' phone as part of Jones' obligation to turn over all relevant documents to them in preparation for the case, simply decided to turn into Major T. J. "King" Kong and gleefully ride the atomic bomb down on their own career in the name of making absolutely certain that Alexander Emerick Jones goes to loving prison for every last crime he's committed over the past ten years. Do you think it's remotely possible?
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nine-gear crow posted:Like at this point you almost kind of have to wonder, did they do it intentionally? Has his entire legal representation for this case up to this point been, and this is weirdly appropriate for Alex Jones in general and this case in particular, a massive false flag operation where the defense attorney, upon seeing the contents of Jones' phone as part of Jones' obligation to turn over all relevant documents to them in preparation for the case, simply decided to turn into Major T. J. "King" Kong and gleefully ride the atomic bomb down on their own career in the name of making absolutely certain that Alexander Emerick Jones goes to loving prison for every last crime he's committed over the past ten years. No they're just really loving dumb
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Piell posted:No they're just really loving dumb But if they lie and claim crime fraud exception is why they did it they could ride the talkshow gravy train/podcast $$ for years. Which they will need. Because they will never be hired to practice law again.
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Piell posted:No they're just really loving dumb Oh I know, but this is like a credulity straining level of dumb.
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Aug 4, 2022 04:43
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My completely made up theory is that it was leaked by someone in the law office who has as conscience.
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Whatever the reason, the guys going to be famous now in law circles for a long time to come. How many other lawyers can say that? I say good for them. I mean yeah, they should probably still be disbarred though.
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Aug 4, 2022 06:09
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Where does the line start for buying him a beer?
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How the hell are they ever going to make a movie out of all this? Anything covering 2016 onward would be unwatchablely over the top. 2016 is a good title though.
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Aug 4, 2022 06:42
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-Blackadder- posted:How the hell are they ever going to make a movie out of all this? Anything covering 2016 onward would be unwatchablely over the top. It's going to be a very, very large series of biographies, focusing on a subject. I mean, after the machines confer the text files to the evolved cuttlefish.
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Aug 4, 2022 06:57
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-Blackadder- posted:How the hell are they ever going to make a movie out of all this? Anything covering 2016 onward would be unwatchablely over the top. Already taken by a Ghanaian sci-fi film from 2010. Of course, that's without getting into the fact it's also taken by Convicted Felon Dinesh D'Souza for his "documentary" 2016: Obama's America.
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-Blackadder- posted:How the hell are they ever going to make a movie out of all this? Anything covering 2016 onward would be unwatchablely over the top. You can try and start here
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Aug 4, 2022 07:13
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Please do not give Ken Burns any ideas.
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-Blackadder- posted:How the hell are they ever going to make a movie out of all this? Anything covering 2016 onward would be unwatchablely over the top.
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Aug 4, 2022 08:20
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This is a better/longer clip of the Jones cellphone gently caress up. It includes some obvious light perjury. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpnSCIak5A8&feature=youtu.be
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I just found out that HBO has a documentary film crew in the court at the Jones trial and holy poo poo I cannot wait to loving see that. From what I watched, I kept thinking that this would make a really funny play or satirical style mockumentary but now that it's all actually being filmed I'm even more jazzed.
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Uglycat posted:It's going to be a very, very large series of biographies, focusing on a subject. Now imagining a cuttlefish in a Trump-toupee.
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Aug 4, 2022 15:13
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Tayter Swift posted:My main concern is that there appears to be a sympathizer on the jury. For context: there have been several worrying jury questions, but the one in this tweet seems like a very flawed summary of what the actual question sounded like. It was framed as a two-part gotcha, where the first half was basically trying to bait him into admitting that media organizations like CNN and Infowars should be held responsible for any irresponsible coverage inspiring mass shootings (the former being an accusation that Alex would happily make on any other day and has implied several times throughout the trial), and then pivots to that second half of "even if you don't think that you should be held responsible, why don't you take the higher road of being better than you claim the mainstream media is?"
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Generic American posted:For context: there have been several worrying jury questions, but the one in this tweet seems like a very flawed summary of what the actual question sounded like. It was framed as a two-part gotcha, where the first half was basically trying to bait him into admitting that media organizations like CNN and Infowars should be held responsible for any irresponsible coverage inspiring mass shootings (the former being an accusation that Alex would happily make on any other day and has implied several times throughout the trial), and then pivots to that second half of "even if you don't think that you should be held responsible, why don't you take the higher road of being better than you claim the mainstream media is?" If anything, it's troubling evidence of terminal Sorkin-brain in one of the jurors
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Aug 4, 2022 15:43
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Devor posted:If anything, it's troubling evidence of terminal Sorkin-brain in one of the jurors This is why juror questions are a mixed bag: they try to act like lawyers instead of just fact-finding
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Aug 4, 2022 15:49
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Jurors aren't exactly domain experts. They don't really have much training at all beyond jury instructions, which are probably given through clenched teeth due to the fact that the concepts are no doubt sliding off their smooth brains like butter. A 1-2 day training seminar, or even something a couple of hours long, on how to observe and evaluate the facts of the case would probably be an enormous boon to the current system. Come to think of it, I'd be surprised if they don't do something like this already.
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-Blackadder- posted:Jurors aren't exactly domain experts. They don't really have much training at all beyond jury instructions, which are probably given through clenched teeth due to the fact that the concepts are no doubt sliding off their smooth brains like butter. Even just a couple hours of training right at the outset could be really useful, I agree. As far as I know in my district, they do such a thing for grand jury candidates, but not usually for regular jury seatings.
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mdemone posted:https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1555210041627742211?s=20&t=mWMYdECofGQ42__09w1WKw Well they sure as gently caress arnt now.
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Oracle posted:Start the upload on a Friday night then take off for the weekend, I can see it. Yep. Jones' lawyer being all  and thinking, "I'll make the opposition work over the weekend."FizFashizzle posted:Cruz, Blackburn, or Ron Johnson. Please, all of them, please, all of them...
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Aug 4, 2022 19:59
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Parents Lawyer knows exactly what's up, ain't wasting any time. https://twitter.com/annamerlan/status/1555213817583243264 The lawyer also got requests for the data from "several law enforcement agencies", in addition to the Jan 6 committee. Sounds like it's going to be a dog pile. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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-Blackadder- posted:Parents Lawyer knows exactly what's up, not wasting any time. I enjoyed the part where plaintiff attorney Mark Bankston said out loud in court that the phone image contains “intimate messages to Roger Stone.”
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gregday posted:I enjoyed the part where plaintiff attorney Mark Bankston said out loud in court that the phone image contains “intimate messages to Roger Stone.” This man was in his glory, in a way that few will ever experience. Openly musing to the room at large, during breaks and he knew the camera was still hot
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gregday posted:I enjoyed the part where plaintiff attorney Mark Bankston said out loud in court that the phone image contains “intimate messages to Roger Stone.” This is going to culminate in all of us having to look at a grainy photo of Roger Stone, fully nude except for a tophat and steampunk gogles
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Failed Imagineer posted:This is going to culminate in all of us having to look at a grainy photo of Roger Stone, fully nude except for a tophat and steampunk gogles Sentences that would have seemed physically impossible 6 years ago are frighteningly possible now.
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Failed Imagineer posted:This is going to culminate in all of us having to look at a grainy photo of Roger Stone, fully nude except for a tophat and steampunk gogles We’ll all be lucky if none of it is Alex Jones himself
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Fart Amplifier posted:Sentences that would have seemed physically impossible 6 years ago are frighteningly possible now. Seriously, if there is any way that exists to burn Alex Jones they are now going to find it. He makes Martin Shkreli look like Ghandi. Like I wonder if Jones realizes how bad this is. He had it all, and he just threw it away. https://twitter.com/buffalocialism/status/1554898233880711168 -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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-Blackadder- posted:Parents Lawyer knows exactly what's up, ain't wasting any time. Yeah boi! This is the stuff. The Alex Jones Phone can be that iconic moment like the Watergate recordings that gets behind the veil and starts to leverage stuff wide open. You know there is evidence of crimes on his phone, and not just his crimes but conspiracies to commit crimes by multiple people. People like Thiel and Stone and all the people they are connected to are in jeopardy. edit: Also, enough people are getting this that it's going to leak like a sieve. I'd bet NYT or WaPo already have, or soon will have, copies of the entire image. Murgos fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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I was 100% right the worst enemy of these loving traitors is themselves, and their gigantic blind-spots. Their stupidity is impossible to underestimate. This won't even be the only stunning break, just the first and maybe the best. I guarantee people at DOD and DOJ and DHS who tried to hide their complicity through destruction of evidence overlooked something and we will all find out about them, too. I'm feeling quite vindicated, thanks.
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Murgos posted:Yeah boi! This is the stuff. The Alex Jones Phone can be that iconic moment like the Watergate recordings that gets behind the veil and starts to leverage stuff wide open. The thing that people miss when they assume because people like Jones have gotten away with it multiple times they will always get away with it is stochastic gently caress ups like this breaking a bunch of poo poo wide open is not a historical anomaly. The more you keep swinging the more chances you have for something to break loose or somebody to gently caress up.
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