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I wouldn't mind an Heretic II remaster. I own a physical copy and I'd love to replay it but cba dealing with a lovely win98 installer. I could just  the game at this point but the Night Dive treatment is something I love.
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Baron von Eevl posted:The proper way to do a hexen remaster would be to design an entirely different game using the idea of the classes, weapons, and spells. And use the chance to put a proper full arsenal, and not just 4 weapons per character!
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Aug 3, 2022 12:18
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Turin Turambar posted:And use the chance to put a proper full arsenal, and not just 4 weapons per character! Eh, screw that noise. I'd keep the weapon limit as is and just put a greater emphasis on co-op. It is a class-based FPS after all.
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Aug 3, 2022 12:44
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Rocket Pan posted:Eh, screw that noise. I'd keep the weapon limit as is and just put a greater emphasis on co-op. It is a class-based FPS after all. this but also if all three classes are present they should be able to combine into a massive magic robot like the power rangers
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Aug 3, 2022 12:45
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the four weapons is really the worst part of hexen. you get your whole arsenal by the third hub and you have half the game left. Fail.
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Aug 3, 2022 12:52
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An Actual Princess posted:the four weapons is really the worst part of hexen. you get your whole arsenal by the third hub and you have half the game left. Fail. I mean, is getting your whole arsenal by half way through the worst thing? Doom 2 you got everything pretty quick in. Sort of different as a squeal, so other then the SSG had seen all the weapons already, and it had more to begin with, but I don't think that's the biggest sin a shooter can do, if you have other new stuff to compensate. Not saying a new late game gun or two can't be really good.
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Aug 3, 2022 13:02
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Aug 3, 2022 13:06
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It's a challenge I've considered taking in the past, and I have a few ideas, but I'm too goddamn lazy to edit out the shield on all the centaur sprites.
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Aug 3, 2022 13:20
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The Kins posted:Seamus Blackley briefly looks up from his necromancy-themed bakery, not knowing why he suddenly started shivering. MetaDoom didn't give me any trouble at all, it was a blast. I think the highest density of weird compatibility issues so far is Hideous Destructor, which is no surprise considering how many standard Doom behaviours it completely replaces. Funniest compatibility issue goes to Ashes Afterglow: the sawn-off shotgun (and all its variants) is flagged as a melee weapon, which means you can get melee exclusive upgrades on it like "stop time whenever you get a kill" 
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Aug 3, 2022 13:50
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https://twitter.com/doom/status/1554923084817305600?s=21&t=-PXPv4qiSa5GnmdN_r_9tw
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Aug 3, 2022 22:12
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Quantum of Phallus posted:https://twitter.com/doom/status/1554923084817305600?s=21&t=-PXPv4qiSa5GnmdN_r_9tw Don’t care what anyone says; Doom 3 is still awesome to me.
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Aug 3, 2022 22:13
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chaosapiant posted:Don’t care what anyone says; Doom 3 is still awesome to me. I just played it for the first time and yeah, it’s pretty good. Maybe I wouldn’t like it as much if the games after followed in its footsteps but it’s cool.
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Aug 3, 2022 22:42
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One massive issue I have with Doom 3 is you can’t skip the intro levels, it’s soooo bad on a replay.
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Aug 3, 2022 22:44
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dr_rat posted:I mean, is getting your whole arsenal by half way through the worst thing? Doom 2 you got everything pretty quick in. Sort of different as a squeal, so other then the SSG had seen all the weapons already, and it had more to begin with, but I don't think that's the biggest sin a shooter can do, if you have other new stuff to compensate. it's different when that's 9 weapons you can swap between vs 4. doom has variety to begin with, whereas you get your fourth weapon in hexen and that's ... it. you're done. nothing else to look forward to hexen 2 is slightly better, because while it still has 4, it at least has the tome of power to give a little variety
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Aug 3, 2022 22:51
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IIRC getting the fourth weapon is a fairly lengthy process, so you have 3 weapons for most of the game anyway
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Aug 3, 2022 22:54
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SeANMcBAY posted:I just played it for the first time and yeah, it’s pretty good. Maybe I wouldn’t like it as much if the games after followed in its footsteps but it’s cool. I been working on my first playthrough and it started slow but I been liking it further in. Just met the revenant glow ups. They have cool gross legs.
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Aug 3, 2022 23:05
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Turin Turambar posted:And use the chance to put a proper full arsenal, and not just 4 weapons per character! I'd say just ditch there being separate classes and just do one character who has all the weapons
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Aug 3, 2022 23:18
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haveblue posted:IIRC getting the fourth weapon is a fairly lengthy process, so you have 3 weapons for most of the game anyway Yeah, weapon 4 needs to be assembled from three different pieces and you can't use it until you have all three. IIRC the earliest you can find the third piece is episode 3, and if you missed one of the other two you don't get another chance until the very end of the game.
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Aug 3, 2022 23:28
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drrockso20 posted:I'd say just ditch there being separate classes and just do one character who has all the weapons Something where you could switch characters mid-game would be good. Co-op AI so all three characters are in the level and you could switch real time would probably be hard to make good, but maybe allow switching at level transitions.
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Aug 3, 2022 23:28
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And make the weapons a pistol, a shotgun, a bigger shotgun, a pistol that shoots a lot faster, a rocket launcher, some sort of rapid fire projectile gun, and a really big gun. Just a really big loving gun. 9000.
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Aug 3, 2022 23:29
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Baron von Eevl posted:And make the weapons a pistol, a shotgun, a bigger shotgun, a pistol that shoots a lot faster, a rocket launcher, some sort of rapid fire projectile gun, and a really big gun. Just a really big loving gun. 9000. Anyone who hasn't needs to try Hexen with High Noon Drifter, they go together very well.
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Aug 4, 2022 00:34
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Doom 3 sucks.
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Hexen had excellent sprite work that still holds up (the hands on the weapons!), moody sounds & atmosphere, very kooky guns, and good fight segments / set pieces. Just generally very high production values throughout, better than its peers, and especially trash such as Redneck Rampage. The trouble was that the fights that you remember is the perpetual enemy trickle spawns, and the mood is ruined by eternally backtracking trying to find a lever/key. 'Fixing' Hexen is just rewriting all the maps from scratch... which is like 90% of the game, so yea. ----- As an aside, I will argue with you about the 4 weapons vs Doom's 10 weapons nonsense. Hexen has a ton of combat consumables, and a lot of doom's arsenal suffers from obsolescence or lack of ammo on the default wads.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Doom 3 sucks. Been saying.
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chaosapiant posted:Don’t care what anyone says; Doom 3 is still awesome to me. Absolutely! Also, on the tweet, why have the brands become self aware? Sonic the Hedgehog account being the kookiest example. It's like dril predicted the future.
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Serephina posted:Hexen stuff What would go a long, long way, especially for co-op would be if everyone didn't teleport when one person went through a portal. Then, you could kind of split up and find the right crap to press, in teams. None the less, as charming as Hexen is, that is why I usually play Heretic instead.
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Aug 4, 2022 03:20
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Heavy Metal posted:Absolutely! Most of the people running these accounts were people like us making these jokes when the games were new.
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Heavy Metal posted:Also, on the tweet, why have the brands become self aware? Sonic the Hedgehog account being the kookiest example. It's like dril predicted the future. Because it's cool and I like when the Burger King talks straight with me and admits his fries have been poo poo for twenty years.
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spongeh posted:Most of the people running these accounts were people like us making these jokes when the games were new. But people never stopped making those jokes, and it feels like a very "fellow kids" type of fitting in thing. My armchair tweet critique. Why celebrate the anniversary of your game with an overused joke? I guess it gets more retweets and stuff. Cream-of-Plenty posted:Because it's cool and I like when the Burger King talks straight with me and admits his fries have been poo poo for twenty years. Now this makes sense. I do believe in mascot kayfabe.
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A CGI Mark Zuckerberg--deliberately designed to unnerve with its exaggerated reptilian qualities--sits backward in a chair and starts to "rap" with the audience. "The future is scary," he says from a series of Dutch angles. "Just look at me. But you're gonna join the Metaverse eventually, whether you like it or not." A laugh track from Two-and-a-half Men plays.
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Aug 4, 2022 03:39
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That rocks, and to think Todd Howard is hyping a new game these days too. It's comforting that these demigod superhuman devs are kicking around out there, we're in safe hands I say.
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Aug 4, 2022 03:43
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Heavy Metal posted:Also, on the tweet, why have the brands become self aware? Sonic the Hedgehog account being the kookiest example. It's like dril predicted the future.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:A CGI Mark Zuckerberg--deliberately designed to unnerve with its exaggerated reptilian qualities--sits backward in a chair and starts to "rap" with the audience. "The future is scary," he says from a series of Dutch angles. "Just look at me. But you're gonna join the Metaverse eventually, whether you like it or not." A laugh track from Two-and-a-half Men plays. is that the whole basilisk thing i've heard about
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Remember when Doom 3 came out and for a while the duct tape mode was the biggest controversy in gaming?
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Vakal posted:Remember when Doom 3 came out and for a while the duct tape mode was the biggest controversy in gaming? I thought that Doom 3 sucked at release, Far Cry was my high watermark for single player shooters at the time, and then HL2 blew it away. In hindsight and on a replay there is a lot to like about Doom 3, but its shotgun still sucks.
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Aug 4, 2022 04:39
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Every time Doom 3 comes up I need to remind everyone.The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay did everything Doom 3 tried to do, both in terms of gameplay and technology, before Doom 3 and better than Doom 3. The fancy stencil shadow system is used for gameplay purposes instead of just obscuring what you're shooting at. It doesn't flood you with boring PDA poo poo, instead you just talk to people, with voice acting that's still surprisingly good. There is actual variety to the gameplay and the environments, a distinct lack of monster closets and a crescendo to the story with a real payoff. It did this on an original XBOX months before Doom 3 hit PC, I played it close to release and it really did set me up to be deeply disappointed in id's game.
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Aug 4, 2022 04:42
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Id disagree, because Butcher Bay has its own weird flaws and wasn't quite going for the same tone as Doom 3 Is it the better game? My memory says yes, absolutely. Wven the stupid loving cigarette sidequest part
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SCheeseman posted:Every time Doom 3 comes up I need to remind everyone.The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay did everything Doom 3 tried to do, both in terms of gameplay and technology, before Doom 3 and better than Doom 3. That game was crazy good, I never got into the sequel though. Same devs made a neat game called Enclave that I never beat and should try again someday.
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Prophet of Nixon posted:That game was crazy good, I never got into the sequel though. Same devs made a neat game called Enclave that I never beat and should try again someday. The spiritual successors are the new Wolfenstein games, MachineGames is comprised of a lot of ex-Starbreeze. The structure is very similar, mostly linear story missions with the occasional exploratory hub area to talk to people and do RPG/Adventure things, and they brought forward things like the recharging pip health system (it's contextualized as a percentage in nuwolf but works the same way).
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Did Vin Diesel have anything to do with getting that made? I know he loves the franchise and games, and I think I remember reading he had some input into it, other than just VO stuff.
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