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Hey c'mon he was a beater in the age of Lure and Regenerate! It's absolutely wild just how much of early magic design was built around two players just casting a crap ton of pearled unicorns and slamming them into each other.
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Lone Goat posted:Players definitely needed to be told you don't keep the card after the game ends. tbf this line of text probably saved a ton of kids from losing their cool creatures to some chancer
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Aug 4, 2022 19:13
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I hope Norritt shows up in Dominaria United
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Aug 4, 2022 19:17
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Devor posted:I love the OG playtesting story where Timewalk was instead templated as "Opponent loses next turn" and some playtesters thought that it meant "Opponent loses the game on their next turn" This is an oft-repeated mistake. It wasn't Time Walk (Time Walk was printed correctly, but at the time also made you sacrifice an Island). It was the red counterpart to Time Walk, Starburst.
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Qwertycoatl posted:tbf this line of text probably saved a ton of kids from losing their cool creatures to some chancer I meant it without a hint of irony! I started around Revised, pre-internet, we didn't know anything. We were pulling three swamps out of our deck when we played Dark Ritual, Counterspelling creatures that were already in play for multiple turns, leaving dozens of +1/+0 counters on Wall of Fire because the card didn't say the pump expired at end of turn, attacking with Carnivorous Plant because nobody noticed it was a Wall, all sorts of nonsense. I remember when they first started putting "(Walls can't attack)" on cards - this was way before they invented Defender - some people were mad because it was soooooo obvious that walls couldn't attack and it was Dumbing Down the Game by putting it there. Some things never change lol.
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Lone Goat posted:I meant it without a hint of irony! My first starter had Force of Nature in it. I spent a ton of time doing everything I could to get more forests because I was sure you had to sacrifice 4 a turn to feed him.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I hope Norritt shows up in Dominaria United I'd be Wary.
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Aug 4, 2022 19:41
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We used to draw back up to 7 cards when our hands were empty. No idea where that idea came from.
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I was just putting some decks together and I noticed something so going back to thisMacdeo Lurjtux posted:Using that as the road map wouldn't netball be the rotation set since it's the fall set? I saw that Stitcher's Supplier, a Vintage staple, is from M19. Then I looked at M20 and that Core set was insanely packed full of good poo poo. The last bunch of Core sets weren't unexciting at all and they both created new archetypes while backfilling Standard staples at the same time and I'm still sad to see them go.
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Aug 4, 2022 20:16
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actual "weird wording because commander" cards
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Aug 4, 2022 20:22
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jpmeyer posted:actual "weird wording because commander" cards Why does it say if you chose a creature when your required to at the start? Is it in case something makes it not a creature at resolution I guess?
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Elvis_Maximus posted:Why does it say if you chose a creature when your required to at the start? If between casting and resolution you lose all your creatures, then you won’t choose a creature and the second part won’t resolve, yep!
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I’ve never ruined this before but I also started in Revised and my friends and I absolutely thought that pumps from things like Holy Armor were permanent. This led in one game to something like a 2/46 Land Leeches.
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Elvis_Maximus posted:Why does it say if you chose a creature when your required to at the start? You don't choose a creature until resolution, but the card only does something if you have a creature to choose.
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I used to use Mystical Tutor to find lands because they're mana sources
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MonsieurChoc posted:We used to draw back up to 7 cards when our hands were empty. I knew a kid with a deck with 4 fireballs and basic lands who often demanded this rule.
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resistentialism posted:I knew a kid with a deck with 4 fireballs and basic lands who often demanded this rule. We had draw-to-7 plus unlimited land drops. I think we just abhorred ever not having a play on a turn. It was... not balanced.
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Lone Goat posted:You don't choose a creature until resolution, but the card only does something if you have a creature to choose. oh you're right, my head read it as target and not choose duh But then the if is unnecessary entirely, isn't it? If you don't have a creature you can't choose one of your cards anyway and once the spell resolves and you've chosen your creature nobody gets priority before the effect happens, or do they?
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Elvis_Maximus posted:oh you're right, my head read it as target and not choose duh you can cast it even if you don't have a creature. true it does nothing in that case but that is a valid line of play
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Elvis_Maximus posted:oh you're right, my head read it as target and not choose duh If the "if" wasn't there it'd be a straight wrath if you cast it when you had no creatures out. The "if" also means that the answer to the question "how do your opponents choose a creature with less than or equal power to a creature you didn't choose?" is "who cares"
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Edit: Oh I'm an idiot, above poster is totally right lol I was thinking the if was dependent on you being able to choose a creature
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Another fun rabbit hole to go down is the what if of sets that were never released For example, Spectral Chaos was in production even before Alpha was released, and had been planned to come out after Legends. Afraid that players would not want another multi-color themed set back to back, it ended up shelved, and while elements were incorporated into later sets, it was never released. A fan reconstruction is available here: https://thechaosorb.com/SpectralChaos/ There are some banging cards and concepts that would have been wild in 1995      The reconstructors did a great job transforming the playtest wording into more modern styles, and it's interesting to see some concepts that later evolved  
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I was taught you play magic with your whole deck in your hand to start, everything is free, and the mama cost was what you paid to bring it back from the grave yard to your hand. Keldon Warlord was OP
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Another fun rabbit hole to go down is the what if of sets that were never released These are dope, and thats a wild loving card.
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Another fun rabbit hole to go down is the what if of sets that were never released Oh man I wanna play that set.
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Another fun rabbit hole to go down is the what if of sets that were never released its a loving crime this was shelved while homelands was allowed to be released
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I ran into a dude at summer camp that insisted that you could sacrifice your opponents creatures. He played Phyrexian Dreadnaught.
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Any way we can get a Spectral Chaos draft going on some online client? Or maybe print-on-demand stuff?
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evilweasel posted:its a loving crime this was shelved while homelands was allowed to be released spectral chaos eventually turned into invasion!
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I wonder if that's what inspired this thing 
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Another fun rabbit hole to go down is the what if of sets that were never released This is cool as hell, thanks
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I could see the arguments this would cause about if Untamed Wilds is playing a land.
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And for the curious, I was incorrect about Time Vault, likely misremembering an old Inquest or Scrye article. It was this, never out of playtest, card: The other playtest cards are pretty sick themselves: http://www.magiclibrarities.net/955-rarities-alpha-beta-gamma-playtest-cards-english-cards-index.html
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when I was a child me and my brother's poo poo rear end rainbow piles caused us to institute a house rule where you could call "special time" once per game which let all players tutor for any basic land
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Imagining a world where every color had a Dark Ritual is wild. Same about those pseudo-legendary duals that could still be fetched; those might even be printable today. They're great for Commander as ABU Dual #2, but in Vintage and Legacy they're really ABU #5 and it's somewhat risky to play more than one depending on how many fetches you're running. Those free rituals are too good, there's no way a 0 cost spell that gives 6+ mana would still be legal in anything.
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LifeLynx posted:Imagining a world where every color had a Dark Ritual is wild. Same about those pseudo-legendary duals that could still be fetched; those might even be printable today. They're great for Commander as ABU Dual #2, but in Vintage and Legacy they're really ABU #5 and it's somewhat risky to play more than one depending on how many fetches you're running. Every color gets to make triple black!
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