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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

VideoGameVet posted:

Seriously? Because if this is true I’m going to party like it’s 1999!

It's not true. It's child porn that was sent to Infowars by third parties and they weren't aware because it all went into the generic email trash folder. Once someone found it it was immediately handled properly (turning it over to the FBI). This also happened several years ago and is making the rounds again because Jones is the top of the current news cycle again

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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Federal Prosecutors have something like a 95% win rate. Those cops are turbo hosed.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
They haven't made any of the changes Sinema requested to the reconciliation bill yet and they are putting it up for the first procedural vote in a rare Saturday session.

Reconciliation requires unlimited amendments, so Sinema can still add her stuff in via amendment. It is also going to be a huge shitshow with messaging amendments. When they passed the stimulus bill, they had to vote on 283 amendments.

Sinema still says she won't say anything about the bill publicly until the parliamentarian finishes.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1555272373724557315

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They haven't made any of the changes Sinema requested to the reconciliation bill yet and they are putting it up for the first procedural vote in a rare Saturday session.

Reconciliation requires unlimited amendments, so Sinema can still add her stuff in via amendment. It is also going to be a huge shitshow with messaging amendments. When they passed the stimulus bill, they had to vote on 283 amendments.

Sinema still says she won't say anything about the bill publicly until the parliamentarian finishes.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1555272373724557315

Does this count as a public statement via the Arizona Chamber of Commerce?

quote:

And in a private call with business groups on Tuesday, Sinema asked a question about the bill's proposed 15% minimum tax on corporations that gave them some hope for optimism.

"Is this written in a way that's bad?" Sinema asked, according to Danny Seiden, president of the Arizona Chamber of Commerce, who relayed the call to CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/03/politics/kyrsten-sinema-democrats-tax-questions-companies/index.html

It would be really funny to see her vote this down. Just last year (as the article states) she was in favor of a corporate minimum tax.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
They are apparently going in to an even rarer Sunday session for votes in the Senate and people are already revolting.

https://twitter.com/ReporterCioffi/status/1555275207757238272

quote:

“It makes me a cranky senator,” said Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski, summing up the general mood this week as the chamber hurtles toward a tantalizing August recess.

quote:

It’s enough to make everyone a little grumpy, though staffers and lawmakers generally said the blow of weekend work can be softened if Congress is working together to get substantive lawmaking done.

quote:

For Sen. Kevin Cramer, it all comes down to scheduled rest. From a theological standpoint, “I think God had a really good idea of resting on the seventh day,” said the North Dakota Republican.

Warnock only complains a little and at least has some perspective.

quote:

For some members of the Senate, it can cut into their faith work. Take Sen. Raphael Warnock, a pastor who returns home many Sundays to preach at the storied Ebenezer Baptist Church. But the Georgia Democrat said he tries to keep things in perspective.

“The thing about weekends is different people worship on different days. For my Jewish friends, their Sabbath begins on Friday night and goes to Saturday night,” Warnock said. “So I don't know that it’s any worse … if it’s a Saturday or Sunday. I’m here to do my job, and whatever day we have to be here, I’m going to be here.”

Ben Ray Lujan seems to be the only one who thinks it is a fun chance for socializing.

quote:

No one likes working weekends, but Sen. Ben Ray Luján said if members were to stick around for longer periods at the Capitol and then take longer breaks back in their states, like they used to long ago, they may be able to get more done.

“It's a chance for you to get together with other colleagues, for you to still work together, maybe even grab a bite together, maybe go to church together, and also solve problems with one another,” the New Mexico Democrat said. “There's something important about being together.”

Historical complaints about weekend work from Bob Dole.

quote:

“We ought to end this,” the Kansas Republican said on Dec. 31, 1995. “I mean, it's gotten to the point where it’s a little ridiculous, as far as this senator is concerned.”

Criss-cross
Jun 14, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
The Senate could pass the same amount of legislation in about 1/5th the time if the voting procedure were less archaic.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.
DeSantis continues practicing for his Il Duce speedrun.

I wouldn't mind seeing Trump stomp him out in some primary debates. But if DeSantis is smart he'll just lay in the cut until 2028.
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1555264572197568512

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
The important thing is that Senators have fun

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Who ultimately decides how much Jones has to pay? The judge?

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?
I think the jury has a say in it

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

cr0y posted:

Who ultimately decides how much Jones has to pay? The judge?

Jury will initially decide.

The limit/amount will depend on the tort laws and whether they have limits on punitive damages in the jurisdiction the trial takes place in.

Afterwards, during the inevitable appeal and bankruptcy proceedings, it will be a judge and the statutory limits/minimums on damages who decide what he ultimately actually pays.

El Jeffe
Dec 24, 2009

.

El Jeffe fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Aug 4, 2022

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



Jury awarded 4 million.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Zotix posted:

Jury awarded 4 million.

Lol barely a dent.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



cr0y posted:

Lol barely a dent.

Some would say a cost of doing business

Brave New World
Mar 10, 2010

Zotix posted:

Jury awarded 4 million.

That's just the compensatory sum. We're still awaiting punitive damages.

:getin:

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Brave New World posted:

That's just the compensatory sum. We're still awaiting punitive damages.

:getin:

My understanding is that texas limits those because LOL gop hellhole

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Active shooter at Mall of America....so, on brand I guess.

https://www.fox9.com/news/mall-of-america-shooting-lockdown-2022

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Jaxyon posted:

My understanding is that texas limits those because LOL gop hellhole

Yeah, in Texas they'll max out at double the compensatory damages and require a unanimous jury verdict, which they didn't have for even the compensatory damages. So they easily could be zero.

For context, $4 million is pretty high for emotional damages, it just isn't much up against Alex Jones's wealth. As shown by the limits on punitive damages, he picked a good state to lie about dead kids in.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

In the long run, this trial is (indirectly) still going to be absolutely ruinous for Jones due to his legal team's epic fuckup. He would have been better off settling and avoiding discovery.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


In the sweet spot of “so wealthy 4 million is a drop in the bucket” & “have to hire Lionel hutz for my defense”

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

In the sweet spot of “so wealthy 4 million is a drop in the bucket” & “have to hire Lionel hutz for my defense”

He's doing a victory lap on his show.

https://twitter.com/kolyin/status/1555328414483103745?s=21&t=DC0e89EkwuYF_Z1hRowdkg

He may well profit from this specific trial.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
https://twitter.com/ScarlettMLewis/status/1555314690695303173

You're a better person than I am, Mrs. Lewis.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

I'm not going to say how I person should forgive someone or not but personally I would never forgive someone who wasn't repentant or sorry for their actions. Jones isn't asking for your forgiveness.

Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1555360161430179841

Well, here's hoping she doesn't change her mind. It's at least a public comment that's she's favoring voting for the legislation.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I take it that means they stripped the carried interest part out of the bill? I guess the climate stuff is still good

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

haveblue posted:

I take it that means they stripped the carried interest part out of the bill? I guess the climate stuff is still good

Yep.

They removed that, but did add in a new excise tax on stock buybacks.

Publicly traded corporations got a slight shaft in exchange for protecting hedge funds, some doctors and lawyers, and people who entirely own their large private businesses.

She says they will work on a "carried interest reform" compromise bill to be voted on separately, but it will probably never happen.

The carried interest loophole is not a huge amount of money, but it was an accident that only benefits a tiny amount of (very rich) people and is indefensible from a public policy standpoint. It's basically the legislative equivalent of one guy stealing all your change and spitting in your face after every trip to the grocery store.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They are apparently going in to an even rarer Sunday session for votes in the Senate and people are already revolting.

https://twitter.com/ReporterCioffi/status/1555275207757238272

Good lord, this gets my blood boiling for some reason. It doesn't matter at all and has no meaningful effect on anything, so it really shouldn't get me going, but reading senators complaining about having to work a weekend like it's a serious ask instead of something that a majority of the country is forced to do on a constant basis is some real idle nobility let them eat cake poo poo that really emphasizes how comically out of touch these people are.

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.
This might be more regional news, but there was finally an arrest made over the 2019 murder of a Portland activist:
https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1555348874692370433
I have to say, I'm surprised that this case finally got closed. But I'm not sure what took so long, considering this:

quote:

Kealiher’s mother, Laura, has for years in online postings publicly accused Knipe of killing her son, saying she was able to link him to the SUV abandoned at the scene using public records.

Kalit fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Aug 5, 2022

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Kanos posted:

Good lord, this gets my blood boiling for some reason. It doesn't matter at all and has no meaningful effect on anything, so it really shouldn't get me going, but reading senators complaining about having to work a weekend like it's a serious ask instead of something that a majority of the country is forced to do on a constant basis is some real idle nobility let them eat cake poo poo that really emphasizes how comically out of touch these people are.

Considering how against labor protections a lot of those GOP lawmakers are makes it incredibly rage inducing.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Kalit posted:

This might be more regional news, but there was finally an arrest made over the 2019 murder of a Portland activist:
https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1555348874692370433
I have to say, I'm surprised that this case finally got closed. But I'm not sure what took so long, considering this:

Have you considered the possibility that the police didn't want to solve it

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

Have you considered the possibility that the police didn't want to solve it

If that is the case, why did they finally "solve" it?

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION



Kalit posted:

If that is the case, why did they finally "solve" it?

Because sometimes they're forced to do so by outside influence?

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Kalit posted:

If that is the case, why did they finally "solve" it?

It's this:

SourKraut posted:

Because sometimes they're forced to do so by outside influence?

Portland PD has been getting hassled by journalists about it, and one of the outfits is suing the city in an attempt to get the unredacted case files released with an appeals court ruling expected soon since, as you yourself noted but appeared flummoxed by, it was such a simple case that the victim's mom solved it by herself with public records, which should have been very easy for professional police detectives to do if they were actually trying

It's bizarre to me that you'd act like it's a reach, especially given the only alternative explanation you seem to be positing is "well who knows but we should trust the cops"

Blind Pineapple
Oct 27, 2010

For The Perfect Fruit 'n' Kaman

1 part gin
1 part pomegranate syrup
Fill with pineapple juice
Serve over crushed ice

College Slice

Kanos posted:

Good lord, this gets my blood boiling for some reason. It doesn't matter at all and has no meaningful effect on anything, so it really shouldn't get me going, but reading senators complaining about having to work a weekend like it's a serious ask instead of something that a majority of the country is forced to do on a constant basis is some real idle nobility let them eat cake poo poo that really emphasizes how comically out of touch these people are.

Also, they only work like half the year for 3x the median salary in the US (not that they even need it because most of them because most of them were millionaires before they were elected).

Criss-cross
Jun 14, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

Blind Pineapple posted:

Also, they only work like half the year for 3x the median salary in the US (not that they even need it because most of them because most of them were millionaires before they were elected).

That's pretty disingenuous. They spend most of their time outside the Senate Chamber calling people for bribes, it's certainly a very demanding job because they have to suck up to the money constantly.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Tayter Swift posted:

He's doing a victory lap on his show.

https://twitter.com/kolyin/status/1555328414483103745?s=21&t=DC0e89EkwuYF_Z1hRowdkg

He may well profit from this specific trial.

Diet Pills?

Not to body-shame him but that would be like going to Rehab at Keith Richard's home.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
he's actually a ssj alpha god. the white thumb is one of the most powerful forms of the white male.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

VideoGameVet posted:

Diet Pills?

Not to body-shame him but that would be like going to Rehab at Keith Richard's home.

This was actually a thing that InfoWars did, showed a before and after photo of Jones after completing like a six week course of his own weight loss pills and literally the only noticeable different between the two pictures was that Jones' skin had gotten considerably, concernedly redder.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Not trying to personally criticise this brave woman, but "holding X accountable" continues to be the emptiest phrase in modern discourse. I guess the equivalent in British politics is people "taking full responsibility" for X, which requires absolutely no consequences or effort on their part

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