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Bobby Deluxe posted:Yeah, it's like the "You wouldn't steal from a smol business market stall" argument mentioned upthread: By framing it as a moral choice rather than a starvation need, it absolves everyone of responsibility for the starvation and makes the discourse shift to whether people are right to not pay. It means come winter, the fash rags can spin the nightmarish stats of people in energy debt as people refusing to pay instead of having been bankrupted by their supplier. Creating a bunch of community organizations in advance is a good thing from that perspective, because it puts people in touch with people, which is about the only thing that can overcome whatever the papers are saying those people are up to. e: cat tax 
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Chinese Gordon posted:It should also be noted that the only reason the oil price is down is because the market is starting to price in a massive recession. Fun times. 
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Miftan posted:https://twitter.com/IsabelOrtizUN/status/1555486614473826304?t=WDt4rmy9WE82adsbpBtRbg&s=19 That's just the price of a barrel of WTI at the point it's pulled out of the ground; it's not necessarily correlated to consumer energy prices. Have a look at any freight rate index if you want to see where price inflation is coming from; basically flat throughout the last decade and then 5x, 10x jumps in the last 18months, all of that additional cost has to go somewhere.
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Not sure about the rest of the thread but in the past few years a bunch of people I kinda knew from school have taken their own lives. Just found out the younger brother of someone I hung out with in high school did so last week. I guess just by the general rate it's not surprising but subjectively it feels like a lot.
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The water thing made me check on my local water supplier's current reserves and mysteriously it's the one page on their website that's "under maintenance" so that's fun. OTOH the government water report showed that in June, the latest public record, the area saw below average rainfall, which it's seen for the past few months. And of course followed by July, the bastard month, so that's also fun.
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Tesseraction posted:Not sure about the rest of the thread but in the past few years a bunch of people I kinda knew from school have taken their own lives. Just found out the younger brother of someone I hung out with in high school did so last week. I guess just by the general rate it's not surprising but subjectively it feels like a lot. I only know a couple of people personally who have taken their own lives, but I know friends who have kids aged late teens, twenties who have either experienced it themselves or their kids' friends have taken their own lives over the years. One of my niece's best friends took his own life in 3rd year of uni.. I'm not sure if there is an increase or whether you just become more aware of it once it touches your own life? Also, of course, there is the shocking decline in mental health services so people not getting the help they need.
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Honestly Ricky Gervais, I'm thinking about the animals doing fun stuff....That and the fact that you are an unfunny prick.
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It's been very dry overall round my way for the past few months, and more dry to come. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62420025 quote:Hosepipe ban in Pembrokeshire after driest year since 1976 I'm a bit worried that if the ground gets really bone dry and then we get very heavy rain in October, then the river will flood (I live just about 10-15m from the river depending on how high it gets!). This is what happened in October 2019/February 2020 when the river got to it's highest ever recorded level and was - for my block - just one hand-palm width from coming over the wall between our garden and the river, and other homes around here got up to 1m of flood waters inside.
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The Question IRL posted:Honestly Ricky Gervais, I'm thinking about the animals doing fun stuff....That and the fact that you are an unfunny prick. 
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I spent a few hours last night stuffing envelopes for the Don't Pay campaign. I know some of the people running it and can confirm that it's not an op. Or at least, if it is an op, the nefarious powers that be have managed to co-opt some long-term dedicated leftists to run it.
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Watch how Prem viewing figures halve as most quit their Sky packages to save money. Edit: And lets us all cheer for the lads getting more in one week than we do in several years. Clap at 8pm for their russian owners too. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:I'm glad Morph died before he could get himself cancelled on Twitter Morph and Tony Hart were legends. Mr Bennett though. And that grey Morph bastard. He can gently caress off.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I only know a couple of people personally who have taken their own lives, but I know friends who have kids aged late teens, twenties who have either experienced it themselves or their kids' friends have taken their own lives over the years. One of my niece's best friends took his own life in 3rd year of uni.. Not to mention the fact that things genuinely are incredibly poo poo for a whole lot of people. I'd never say it's bad enough to take your own life, but there's not a lot of hope in our futures right now.
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happyhippy posted:Morph and Tony Hart were legends. Chas was loving hilarious and bought a lot of joy and excitement to Morph's life whether he wanted him to or not!!
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Guavanaut posted:I would simply not think about Ricky Gervais ever. Even while writing Ricky Gervais I'm thinking about Morph, the claymation man, and not Ricky Gervais. As a rational Atheist, Ricky Gervais would approve of you doing this....while also reminding you that he is a rational Atheist. Did he mention to you, that he doesn't believe in God?
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Comrade Fakename posted:I spent a few hours last night stuffing envelopes for the Don't Pay campaign. I know some of the people running it and can confirm that it's not an op. Or at least, if it is an op, the nefarious powers that be have managed to co-opt some long-term dedicated leftists to run it.
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Private Speech posted:Energy prices are one thing but this is pretty crack-ping and that too: Christ. What really gets me is that both the housing and energy crises have simple, obvious solutions: 1)Build a shitload of public housing and also force developers to actually build on their banked land. 2)Massive expansion of solar and wind energy. Energy bill subsidies in the meantime. Punitive taxes on obscene fossil fuel profits.
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A front page designed to enrage me. A Scottish edition of a newspaper talking about "the Prem" as if the Scottish Premiership hasn't been underway for a week already
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Comrade Fakename posted:I spent a few hours last night stuffing envelopes for the Don't Pay campaign. I know some of the people running it and can confirm that it's not an op. Or at least, if it is an op, the nefarious powers that be have managed to co-opt some long-term dedicated leftists to run it. Nice try, "Comrade Fakename"
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I'm planning to move (yeah maybe not the greatest idea right now due to the financial everything, oh well) and was refreshing my memory about how these rental tenancy deposit thingies work again. Googling about tenancy deposit schemes:  So... it seems that this Deposit Protection Service is actually pretty good? 
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Comrade Fakename posted:I spent a few hours last night stuffing envelopes for the Don't Pay campaign. I know some of the people running it and can confirm that it's not an op. Or at least, if it is an op, the nefarious powers that be have managed to co-opt some long-term dedicated leftists to run it. even if it was literally an op, which it isn't, who is really winning here? you the useful idiot doing the legwork on a huge and grassroots civil disobedience campaign or them the smart leftist wise enough to stay home and do nothing if the state really wants to fund and encourage mass civil protest against themselves for some 4d chess reason then I say we let them, it's not like these things have ever got out of hand or had unintended consequences is it
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Bobby Deluxe posted:https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1555497800653234176?t=FrYPe6v1Nw107xxlL-UW8w&s=19 When he says "campaigns like you" he means politically convenient ones in the moment.
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domhal posted:800 for water for two seems like... a lot? It does. We have a water meter and pay £26/mo for two adults. We're not particularly careful. Anglian Water here.
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jaete posted:I'm planning to move (yeah maybe not the greatest idea right now due to the financial everything, oh well) and was refreshing my memory about how these rental tenancy deposit thingies work again. parasite tears, my favourite
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The DPS ruled last month that my former landlord should get £85 of the £1600 they were demanding. God bless.
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josh04 posted:The DPS ruled last month that my former landlord should get £85 of the £1600 they were demanding. God bless. What did they get the £85 for
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I did it. I found the most terrible take online today. https://twitter.com/meghaverma_art/status/1530817307491983361?t=rbcipnqE68L-9Hqx6RJrdg&s=19 This one was a close second though. https://twitter.com/bad_histories/status/1554898152221728773?t=rK-AsQUbht6BnamY-WKCkA&s=19
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This is why Partition was so painful, nerd Britain introducing the Indian subcontinent to the concept of a breakup
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jaete posted:So... it seems that this Deposit Protection Service is actually pretty good? The only bad thing about the DPS is the process takes time and lots of people don't have enough money to afford the deposit on a new flat without getting as much of the old one back as possible first. Otherwise yeah dispute every deduction because you will win. Especially those loving scam end of tenancy cleaning charges.
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^- yeah it took a few months and was pretty stressful, not my first time but I didn't enjoy it much.Microplastics posted:What did they get the £85 for We didn't contest that we'd put some holes in the wall and filled then before we left. If they'd made a more reasonable offer at any point we might have taken it but they stuck to their "more than a month's rent to paint two walls" guns.
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jaete posted:I'm planning to move (yeah maybe not the greatest idea right now due to the financial everything, oh well) and was refreshing my memory about how these rental tenancy deposit thingies work again. Yea if you actually drag the landlord to DPS dispute process you usually win because landlords are scum and don't obey the law. Just that most renters are desperate and uninformed enough they don't know or don't have time to engage in the process to actually get their legal rights. It's not even that onerous but people have a inbuilt fear of legal interactions due to media + never being taught how the law works.
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My old landlord wanted £300 at one point for stuff that was obviously wear and tear, we disputed through DPS and they told the landlord to get hosed he gets nothing lol
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