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Solus posted:You have made 1 post outside of an eve online thread since you joined in 2019 lmao
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You have made 1 post outside of an eve online thread since you joined in 2019 lmao
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Aug 5, 2022 10:05
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Vando posted:The guy who supposedly posted the announcement both said it was fake and that it was not accurate to his views, and really without any other evidence I see no reason not to believe him. I can't find any trace that any of it ever happened. Other than people bringing it up, that is. I remember it happened but not even google has a trace of it.
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Aug 5, 2022 10:08
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Why do members of ASCEE always post like they’re trying to impress Jordan Peterson
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Aug 5, 2022 10:18
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Aedaxus posted:There have been so many posts I do not find the one where someone of importance indicates that ANYONE who left or was kicked out is free to talk with them in DM to have a chat on joining back in. I have never seen someone say so little with so many words. The entire point of the Imperium offering a blanket amnesty to the people that got banned for making noise about the issues you list is to make reparations. Even if we don't accept, and have no intention of returning to the Imperium, it would be the right thing to do and a public act to back up the supposed reform. This isn't about ~~politics~~, it is about being just and egalitarian. dragonshardz fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Aug 5, 2022 10:45
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dragonshardz posted:I have never seen someone say so little with so many words. EDIT: (just saw your edit). I understand it would be a very nice gesture. And if you guys are now enjoying what you are doing, there is probably not much chance of you rejoining our ranks. The most important thing is to be in a good group of players. Where you can enjoy the game, because after all, this is supposed to be entertainment. Aedaxus fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Aug 5, 2022 10:51
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The point of not punishing people for speaking up is so that people don't avoid speaking up because they think they will be punished. It's not for the benefit of people who have left, it's for the benefit of people who remain.
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Aug 5, 2022 11:12
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The goodness is that all of my poo poo from Delve was finally delivered to asset safety. The bad news is I have 8million m3 of poo poo I need to either sell, ship to Jita or bin
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Aug 5, 2022 11:52
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:The goodness is that all of my poo poo from Delve was finally delivered to asset safety. The bad news is I have 8million m3 of poo poo I need to either sell, ship to Jita or bin you are welcome to bin it all directly to Suplex Backbreaker ingame and I’ll make sure it’s properly disposed of.
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Aug 5, 2022 12:57
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dragonshardz posted:So hey, how about that no-questions-asked blanket amnesty? dragonshardz posted:The entire point of the Imperium offering a blanket amnesty to the people that got banned for making noise about the issues you list is to make reparations. You've already had an answer to this several times but what the hell I'll bite too. No one was banned solely for "making noise". Repeating this is an attempt to rewrite history. Several members did things like reposting the summary of events and saying "Mittani needs to go" or similar. They were never punished or kicked, and are still around now. Something I don't think has been mentioned publicly yet is that a few of the delta ringleaders were set to be banned a while back over obnoxious behaviour in other unrelated events. In a twist of irony those bans were overruled by Mittani. Wonder how much he regrets that now... Asher has said he's willing to review any individual bans, and some may well be reversed. But there won't be any blanket reversal to open the doors for the handful of people who don't want to return and should have been gone long before last month.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:07
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xtothez posted:No one was banned solely for "making noise". Deadtear was shot for posting a sick burn. I know he didn't have a valid pilot, but his accounts isn't out of compliance or "member status". It's shot dead like all the other blacklisted people. I'm pretty sure that Shanes account went for a similar harmless reason.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:15
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All my alts were kicked, my main was put on role cooldown and I was removed from services the day after Mittani "stepped down". Even Atrum didn't think my three posts on GSF were kick worthy, so stop with this "no-one was kicked" bullshit because people were
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xtothez posted:
As an actually active director at the time, this is either a lie, or ill informed They were a few directors who had no power or ability to kick people, who have the emotional capacity of a loving potato, who took things like helldump shitposting too seriously and were agitating to kick some people for posting in the forum with, infamously, no rules.** There’s multiple people who have been banned for the crime of “continuing to post on a forum your ancient loving systems hadn’t automatically removed them from yet because it broke and no one checked” Atrum himself has said some of the bans were and are bullshit People are banned and it took a loving week to simply add “Delta Schism” to their blacklist entry lmao. If you’re gonna make up some loving reasons then be consistent about it, or at least get someone who was actually active at the time to write about it - I burnt my way out of the directorate over how poorly the wider alliance leadership handled it and I’m not particular interested in a disconnected leader from the star chamber accidentally or on purpose rewriting the storyline. **the same fuckwits who instead of caring about someone being the victim of abuse, decided to throw their toys out of the cot about 300b of isk that Mittani set on fire btw Solus fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Aug 5, 2022 13:27
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shut the gently caress up about the pubbie organization "goon swarm federation" jesus christ if i want to read about the trials and tribulations of pubbies i'll go on r*ddit or get reinvited to cesspool
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Anyway, Goonswarm has, years ago at this point, consigned itself to a slow loving death internally as it sits there as a decaying and dying culture thanks to insisting on staying on Jabber for all things and therefore allowing the alliance culture to degrade into nothingness while anything actually social occurs in sig/squad/Corp discords. Jabber consists of Wibla sad opt-all pings, Yoosetsu saying good morning goons in 12 channels to no response, some skirmish commander getting emotionally abused by John Harltley in the SC Channel and nothing else of note aside from pings. After removing helldump you’re basically killing the forums and at that point you’re basically saying goodbye unified alliance culture. The warhammer 40k metaphors we all loved are unfortunately accurate in that regard
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Aug 5, 2022 13:40
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Nothing remains but the husk of a fat bee at the centre of a golden throne
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xtothez posted:No one was banned solely for "making noise". I'm retracting this and replacing it with: "most people were not banned solely for making noise". Asher has said there are likely a handful of bans made that would be reversed on appeal. Deadtear's in particular was a 'hack' to remove him because due to being a former moderator the auth system hadn't done it automatically . The original point still stands though; there won't be a blanket unban as most had valid reasons.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:55
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Honestly not really knowing anything about this I'd really like to know which deltas got put up against the wall and how exactly they were toxic. Right now, afaik "toxic" just means "annoyed someone" and it's super easy to believe that they all got got because they made a stink about pedo-harboring because the pedo was someone important's friend and that someone important wanted to defend their friend by banning all the mean people. This cloak and dagger WE HAD OTHER REASONS bullshit isn't convincing anyone given the current state of affairs. I mean gently caress, if you've got dirt on someone  Free Deadtear, ban mittens.
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xtothez posted:words Keep on tweaking the story until you think it will work on us, I reckon there's a bit more work left to go still though
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People were permanently blacklisted for crimes such as "continuing to post after leaving corp before the auth system got rid of them normally" and "editing the wiki to insultingly yet accurately describe what happened"
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Aug 5, 2022 14:05
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The horribly outdated and defunct wiki was ~vandalized~! Oh the humanity!
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The same wiki full of slurs until delta members got mad about it. I might be confusing it with our load bearing slur emotes that delta got mad about though Hard to keep track
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Those toxic motherfuckers.
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Bigbillthaboss posted:I thought you were all about geese n stuff now I'm not. My goal was not to leave GSF. It was to get 2 ppl kicked and then naively trust the new system. But ive been kicked & banned. And as much as i want to be unbanned, im not gonna go beg Asher for it or ask Atrum to intercede on my behalf. We should be unbanned on principle. The fact we have to ask for it is, imho, the proof that nothing has really changed. Its a way for Illum to remind us they think we hosed them over. Its a way for them to exert power, "You want back in? Beg!" If i played EVE regularly, i'd be pissed. But since i mostly just show up for major wars to be a +1 logi, im not too distraught. And I can imagine that for the directorate, my contribution is not worth the time it takes to unban me. Vando posted:The point of not punishing people for speaking up is so that people don't avoid speaking up because they think they will be punished. Also, this xtothez posted:You've already had an answer to this several times but what the hell I'll bite too. No one was banned solely for "making noise". Repeating this is an attempt to rewrite history. Several members did things like reposting the summary of events and saying "Mittani needs to go" or similar. They were never punished or kicked, and are still around now. Sorry but that's BS. All i did was post in the Q&A thread. A bit angrily maybe, but all I did was post. Dalael fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Aedaxus posted:I read the SomethingAwful.com mainpage since around 2006. It's much more fun than your posts. I think someone posted the exact same thing you posted. Why do you need to see more of my posts? Do you need more personal information? Do I feel secure you are hitting a wall on information about me? Do I feel safe knowing you cannot sleep at night without knowing everything about me? Not really, stop being creepy. see this is how we know its all a lie. There is no mainpage, and even if there were somehow this magical unicorn it never refreshes
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xtothez posted:I'm retracting this and replacing it with: "most people were not banned solely for making noise". Asher has said there are likely a handful of bans made that would be reversed on appeal. Deadtear's in particular was a 'hack' to remove him because due to being a former moderator the auth system hadn't done it automatically . so i was banned for posting things mittani said in helldump, a place with no rules was that valid you quisling
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Aedaxus posted:I read the SomethingAwful.com mainpage since around 2006. It's much more fun than your posts. I think someone posted the exact same thing you posted. Why do you need to see more of my posts? Do you need more personal information? Do I feel secure you are hitting a wall on information about me? Do I feel safe knowing you cannot sleep at night without knowing everything about me? Not really, stop being creepy. theres a front page?
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Ice Fist posted:Honestly not really knowing anything about this I'd really like to know which deltas got put up against the wall and how exactly they were toxic.  Never Forget. #FreeDeltaSqad
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Dalael posted:And as much as i want to be unbanned, im not gonna go beg Asher for it or ask Atrum to intercede on my behalf. a) I expect Asher will want a quick chat with some folks to get their side of things. b) Not wanting to review everyone's case when most of them ain't coming back anyway. No sense in doing space paperwork when it's not required. We don't love bureaucracy as much as people think.
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esto es malo posted:theres a front page? https://www.somethingawful.com/
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xtothez posted:I'm retracting this and replacing it with: "most people were not banned solely for making noise". Asher has said there are likely a handful of bans made that would be reversed on appeal. Deadtear's in particular was a 'hack' to remove him because due to being a former moderator the auth system hadn't done it automatically . lol i was banned literally seconds after i posted, it was absolutely a rage ban idk what you got told my dude
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xtothez posted:Deadtear's in particular was a 'hack' to remove him because due to being a former moderator the auth system hadn't done it automatically . I think my eyes just dislocated from rolling so hard try again, you might get a little closer next time
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It's perfectly fine to say "we won't be issuing a public pardon for those people we kicked out of the alliance for pointing out the enabling and rotten culture that exists in the alliance, because if we do, we'll be acknowledging that everything they said is true and we can't give our enemies propaganda. Also, we haven't even fixed the issues they raised, so what's the actual point?"
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xtothez posted:The parents of the kids who were molested and have been ex-communicated from the church when the pedophila scandal hit in the 80's, must have an interview with the pope before being let back into the faith. ftfy
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xtothez posted:Anyone genuinely interested in returning only needs to say so, absolutely no begging required. It's literally just a case of: Like an exit interview? Hell with that poo poo. I left on my accord. When I knew the people with the moral high ground. Were getting purged, black listed, and banned for being correct.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:It's perfectly fine to say "we won't be issuing a public pardon for those people we kicked out of the alliance for pointing out the enabling and rotten culture that exists in the alliance, because if we do, we'll be acknowledging that everything they said is true and we can't give our enemies propaganda. Also, we haven't even fixed the issues they raised, so what's the actual point?"
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xtothez posted:Anyone genuinely interested in returning only needs to say so, absolutely no begging required. It's literally just a case of: xttz i like you but this is stupid. The reasons given for "not banning mittani" and "all the people banned for 'drama' need to ask individually to be let back in" are stupid and dumb. "We're lazy" isn't any better. And stop appending "space" to everything as this handwavy "it's just videogames" bullshit because the problem in the first place is that real life abuse was being treated like video game bullshit. The point isn't if Mittani has any more power or if he'll want to come back at all, nor is the point that a lot of the people ragebanned don't even want back. Just ban him and unban everyone banned for 'drama' and be done with it. There is no good reason to not do that stuff.
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xarph posted:I predict that mittens will be running horde in a year  Good call.
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Xolve posted:GSF doesn't want to associate with SA any longer, from their own admission. an off handed quote from one guy one time that no longer has power jumping to conclusions are we dragonshardz posted:in things we already knew, globby knows nothing about Goosefleet at all, continues to post dumb lies and bad takes because we won't let him in ew no, gross, that group sucks!
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