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Powershift posted:Motor Trend tested the Honda Civic Sport(lol) HPD(lmao) at 0-60 in 9.2 seconds and 17.0@86.5 quarter mile. Jesus' Christ, I did a faster quarter mile in my old stock 97 protege like 20 years ago. And I wasn't even dumping the clutch that hard
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I have a Bronco Sport OUTER BANKS EDITION as a rental car and I gotta be honest, I don't hate it. The interior is fairly nice - some very cheap components let it down, but it's got a clear identity and style and feels intentional. Lots of handy storage pockets, brown seats with gray heather cloth accents, and copper colored plastic accents make it a more interesting car. I kind of like the exterior styling and it seems to be quite popular with regular people. Driving experience is like what if we had an Escape, but truckier, which is not terrible. It handles OK though you feel the size/mass in corners. The engine and transmission work well and seem better implemented than on the Escape, although fuel economy is worse. I think this must be the 2.0 245hp model as it gets out of its way pretty welll. It reminds me a bit of the Element, only modern (and without the hose-out interior). It actually makes me even more interested in the gas-powered AWD Maverick.
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:Jesus' Christ, I did a faster quarter mile in my old stock 97 protege like 20 years ago. And I wasn't even dumping the clutch that hard My younger benchracing self would have loved the current state of cars. Civic: Price: $24,765 0-60: 9.2 1/4 mile: 17@86.5mph 70-0: 170ft Fuel economy 30/37 Sheets of 3/4" plywood it can haul in the back: 0 Maverick hybrid Price: $23,885 0-60: 7.7 1/4 mile: 15.9@90mph 70-0: 158ft Fuel economy: 42/33 Sheets of 3/4" plywood it can haul in the back: 15+ Why would anybody ever choose a Civic over the Maverick. Just a shame it has been killed in Canada by dealers.  Even without their $10k mark-up, they only seem to order the $45k sticker trucks. Powershift fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Powershift posted:
The civic has more space for the rear seats.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I have a Bronco Sport OUTER BANKS EDITION as a rental car and I gotta be honest, I don't hate it. The interior is fairly nice - some very cheap components let it down, but it's got a clear identity and style and feels intentional. Lots of handy storage pockets, brown seats with gray heather cloth accents, and copper colored plastic accents make it a more interesting car. I kind of like the exterior styling and it seems to be quite popular with regular people. Pretty sure the Outer Banks only comes with the 1.5 Ecoboost. Also, lol $40k out the door without dealer markup
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Powershift posted:Why would anybody ever choose a Civic over the Maverick.
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Cage posted:Plywood storage...plywood storage. I don't even own a plywood, let alone many plywoods that would necessitate an entire bed. What am I gonna do, with plywood? build a fort
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I have a Bronco Sport OUTER BANKS EDITION as a rental car and I gotta be honest, I don't hate it. The interior is fairly nice - some very cheap components let it down, but it's got a clear identity and style and feels intentional. Lots of handy storage pockets, brown seats with gray heather cloth accents, and copper colored plastic accents make it a more interesting car. I kind of like the exterior styling and it seems to be quite popular with regular people. Check the VIN dude or post it here, first thing I do when I get a rental car is check a VIN decoder and see which one of 19 trims of the model and year I have. But I am a weirdo so. Bronco is gonna be a nice success for Ford. The F-150 Lightning is getting a good amount of buzz with regular people as well.
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Powershift posted:build a fort 
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KillHour posted:NGL, the idea of having a HUD and not wanting to use it is loving weird to me. HUDs are one of the best safety and convenience features of the century. 100% agree. Im to the point where it would sway which vehicle Id buy if one of the vehicles Im comparing is missing this feature going forward. I love them. I seriously go through build configuration tools for vehicles and look for HUD as an option. The Macan doesn't have it as an option and even though Im wrong, it sways me more towards a X3 because of this.
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Powershift posted:Even without their $10k mark-up, they only seem to order the $45k sticker trucks. If they're only going to get a scarce few stock units outside of customer orders it makes sense to buy the blingiest configuration you can and maximize the profit.
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fknlo posted:The Integra manual has a 0-60 time of 7.7 seconds. That's pathetic. The base corolla hatch is faster and costs half as much lol What a shame
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Mustache Ride posted:Pretty sure the Outer Banks only comes with the 1.5 Ecoboost. Also, lol $40k out the door without dealer markup yeah i checked the trim and you are right. it feels pretty good honestly, plenty of power. but yeah sticker including D&D is 38,7 (D&D is loving 1600 now wtf)
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Acura has long been shown to be an utter waste of time and money. Wrap it up hondailures
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Blowjob Overtime posted:Some of the most aggravating drives I've gone on are Highway 52 between Rochester and the Twin Cities because of this. We spent about 30 miles doing a little ballet rotating which of FOUR cars was in the lead going 70-75 MPH. I got fed up, smashed the gas to put a quarter mile between us, then set my cruise to 75. Ten minutes later the three of them screamed by me going about 85. Oh hey, that's the road I see them on too. It's just flat enough to make people think they can plant their foot in one position and forget about it and just hilly enough to call them out on it. carry on then fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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fknlo posted:The Integra manual has a 0-60 time of 7.7 seconds. That's pathetic. Car and Driver got a much better number out of it: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a40051658/2023-acura-integra-drive/ Maybe the 90s really have returned and we're being reminded that the editors of Motortrend can't drive.
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Twerk from Home posted:Check out this lineup from 1992, how would the 2023 Acura Integra stack up to some cheap cars from 30 years ago: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a35884953/1992-fun-four-cylinder-two-door-showdown/ Those cars have very impressive braking distances from 700mph-0
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:Those cars have very impressive braking distances from 700mph-0 For the first ~400mph, wind resistance is doing most of the work.
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PeterWeller posted:Car and Driver got a much better number out of it: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a40051658/2023-acura-integra-drive/ They must have been uncompromsing on the clutch and slamming the gears because for a 1360kg car with 150Kw and 260NM that's a decent time. Not particularly greaaaaat compared to everything else (A 1.5 litre turbo isnt exactly what I would call an appropiate engine for a ca that size and weight) tho.
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Here are some notes on a 2020 Toyota Camry SE that I had as a rental last week:
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but what if you got the TRD Camry? that one's supposed to be fun and sporty.
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No AWD option and an open diff.
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Full Collapse posted:No AWD option and an open diff. Can you even get a midsize with 300 HP and AWD for less than like $45k? gently used Taurus I guess
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carry on then posted:Can you even get a midsize with 300 HP and AWD for less than like $45k? Not a midsize, but the GR Corolla hits the rest of that with a projected $31k
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Toyota already having an AWD Camry with the I4 is my argument
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But not having a limited slip in your sport model these days is pretty lame
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Full Collapse posted:But not having a limited slip in your sport model these days is pretty lame Artificial segmentation baby, gotta step up to the Lexus/Acura/Genesis for that.
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Not a midsize, but the GR Corolla hits the rest of that with a projected $31k Sorry, but there is no way a GR Corolla is going to MSRP at $31k. I will be incredibly surprised if it even starts with a 3.
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carry on then posted:Artificial segmentation baby, gotta step up to the Lexus/Acura/Genesis for that. Is the G70 even good? I know the auto press praises it but somehow I’m not convinced the actual experience of living with the car day to day justifies picking it over a 3 series or a C class.
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I never use cruise control and it's part of why I really like the hud in my car. The main reason I don't use it is it's uncomfortable for me to keep my right foot hovering over the gas or brake for extended periods of time. I realize I could keep my foot slightly depressing the gas but honestly highway speeds are a pretty comfortable amount of gas pedal pressure for me and maintaining a specific speed exactly helps keep me engaged with driving. I don't vary up and down by more than 1 mph and I can generally keep it on an exact speed for a minute or more at a time without adjusting, depending how hilly things are. I have adaptive cruise in my new car and I thought I'd like using it in traffic but I just don't feel secure relying on the car to brake.
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carry on then posted:Can you even get a midsize with 300 HP and AWD for less than like $45k? I paid 38k for a CTS V-Sport with 32k miles which is a full size with 420 HP. RWD only, but you can get an AWD V6 CTS for less and that has over 300.
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BlackMK4 posted:Sorry, but there is no way a GR Corolla is going to MSRP at $31k. I will be incredibly surprised if it even starts with a 3. The Yaris GR stickered at roughly double what the base cost so I'd expect the GR Corolla to be somewhere in the $40s for the USA
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dissss posted:The Yaris GR stickered at roughly double what the base cost so I'd expect the GR Corolla to be somewhere in the $40s for the USA 40's was my thought too. The new CTR stickers at $39k and that is a higher production car with a more simple drivetrain, I can't see Toyota coming in under that.
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BlackMK4 posted:40's was my thought too. The new CTR stickers at $39k and that is a higher production car with a more simple drivetrain, I can't see Toyota coming in under that. They could msrp it for $5 and dealers will cheerfully mark it up to $60,000.
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E: Re: Integra sloooow It probably had to shift three times to reach 60. It makes for more fun driving experience (more shifting!) but won't win any bench races. My old Honda was like that. 0-100 took over 8 secs in stock trim, but bumping up the red line via software meant it could do 60 in 2nd and would reach low 7s.
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Kraftwerk posted:Is the G70 even good? I know the auto press praises it but somehow I’m not convinced the actual experience of living with the car day to day justifies picking it over a 3 series or a C class. As long as you get the V6, the G70 is actually good, not just good for the price. The only complaints I had with the V6 G70 I drove was that the back seat and trunk sucked if you had to use them regularly, and the dealer experience is extremely YMMV. Yes, the M340i is better if you can afford it. But if you can afford an M340i, and live somewhere where you can work out the chassis regularly, you should get a CT4-V Blackwing for a similar price.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I never use cruise control and it's part of why I really like the hud in my car. The main reason I don't use it is it's uncomfortable for me to keep my right foot hovering over the gas or brake for extended periods of time. That's not how most people use cruise control. If traffic is light enough to use conventional cruise control you don't need to have your foot ready to slam on the brakes at a moments notice. If you need to be able to hit the brakes instantaneously then you shouldn't have cruise on.
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*black and white footage of someone rigging a rickety support to hold their foot over the brake pedal* THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY!
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40771105/2023-ford-gm-truck-price-increase/quote:The Raptor's base price will increase by $5220 for 2023, with the Limited going up $6285. The price for our preferred trim, the Lariat, swells $7580 from 2022 to the 2023 model year. Well, it looks like paying $5k dealer markup on a 2022 model might still be coming out ahead if 2023 models cost $7580 more. This is happening for many manufacturers!
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Kivi posted:E: Re: Integra sloooow I wasnt expecting a leader level Time Attack car, but it's a bit disheartening to think that in 2023, they accomplished the performance benchmarks from my 1990 Ford Probe 
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