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The sword missile is more viscerally unpleasant sounding than a high explosive. An explosive missile makes its targets (and the dozen innocent people nearby) helpfully disappear into a big cloud of smoke and fire, so you can stop thinking about it there before you get to the carnage. With the sword missile, there's no looking away from the fact that it's committing metal gear rising on a real human being. E: loving terrible snipe, dogshit post, who is this idiot
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Explosives leave plenty of human debris, it's just spread out over a wider area. I don't think you can really quantity the horror of these kinds of weapons. The murdering dweebs over at Lockheed probably just use words like "effect on target" and "secondaries."
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christmas boots posted:Isn’t the sword missile supposed to cause less collateral damage or something? One sword missile probably kills fewer innocent people than an explosive. Drone warfare was safer than having a man on the ground to paint a target, with the same end result. But, after getting drones, they started assassinating way more people with bombs and blowing up more weddings. So, this could replace some conventional drone strikes and maybe have less collateral, and maybe also they escalate drone attacks to more scenarios where a conventional explosive payload would have caused too much collateral.
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Sword Missile was my favorite MGS boss
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Mister Speaker posted:Explosives leave plenty of human debris, it's just spread out over a wider area. I don't think you can really quantity the horror of these kinds of weapons. The murdering dweebs over at Lockheed probably just use words like "effect on target" and "secondaries." Right, that's what I'm saying, you can just mentally handwave it away easier. "Missile hit, they're gone, that's the end of that thought." Whereas with the sword missile, even if you stop thinking about it right before it hits, that just means you're visualising a shot from a slasher movie
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Dabir posted:Right, that's what I'm saying, you can just mentally handwave it away easier. "Missile hit, they're gone, that's the end of that thought." Whereas with the sword missile, even if you stop thinking about it right before it hits, that just means you're visualising a shot from a slasher movie The swords aren't actually for slashing. If you're close enough to get slashed, you were already killed by the shockwave from the giant sword missile hitting the ground near/on you.
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Byzantine posted:Nice try, Yuri. No, comrade premier. It has only just begun.
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Dabir posted:Right, that's what I'm saying, you can just mentally handwave it away easier. "Missile hit, they're gone, that's the end of that thought." Whereas with the sword missile, even if you stop thinking about it right before it hits, that just means you're visualising a shot from a slasher movie Yeah, you can just stop thinking about it, sure. Unless you live in Kabul and some guy's head falls out of a tree while you're walking to work a few days after a 'targeted assassination'.
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The people who make the decision about what missiles to fire don't generally plan on visiting the other end so
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Cicadalek posted:I am visualizing a slightly smaller tactical nuke hitting Uri Geller only Ah, fond Borderlands 2 memories. gently caress off, Dave.
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Dr. Stab posted:One sword missile probably kills fewer innocent people than an explosive. Drone warfare was safer than having a man on the ground to paint a target, with the same end result. But, after getting drones, they started assassinating way more people with bombs and blowing up more weddings. Yeah, that's a good point.
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Dr. Stab posted:One sword missile probably kills fewer innocent people than an explosive. Drone warfare was safer than having a man on the ground to paint a target, with the same end result. But, after getting drones, they started assassinating way more people with bombs and blowing up more weddings. Jevons paradox: WOT edition 
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maybe we just skip to the Rods of God. still dumb solid matter with no moving parts, but you still get a nice energetic release of energy.
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/bad_histories/status/1554898152221728773?s=21&t=zTjH9I-KD-q-sfi86_ibDA Nobody ever broke up prior to the modern age of *checks notes* the 1500s. Alas my love you do me wrong To cast me off discourteously; And I have loved you oh so long Delighting in your company. Greensleeves was my delight, Greensleeves my heart of gold Greensleeves was my heart of joy And who but my Lady Greensleeves I have been ready at your hand To grant whatever thou would’st crave; I have waged both life and land Your love and goodwill for to have. Greensleeves was my delight, Greensleeves my heart of gold Greensleeves was my heart of joy And who but my Lady Greensleeves Thy petticoat of sendle white With gold embroidered gorgeously; Thy petticoat of silk and white And these I bought gladly. Greensleeves was my delight, Greensleeves my heart of gold Greensleeves was my heart of joy And who but my Lady Greensleeves
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We can quibble between drones with explosives and drones with swords all day Real men use the Rod from God: https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/project-thor-what-america-s-new-rods-from-god-space-based-superweapon-can-do
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oldpainless posted:Sword Missile was my favorite
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Van Kraken posted:Napoleonic wars, not world wars. Is the show good? I loved the book and heard good things about the show, but never got around to it. It’s good! The pacing is a bit odd in parts, but there are some excellent performances, and the costumes/sets/effects are very good.
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PhazonLink posted:maybe we just skip to the Rods of God. Tungsten doesn't grow on trees, and rocks are free. Volcott has a new favorite as of 06:45 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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AlbieQuirky posted:It’s good! The pacing is a bit odd in parts, but there are some excellent performances, and the costumes/sets/effects are very good. Something that helps is that it knows how to use it's budget. Each episode has one BIG EFFECTS SPELL then a few smaller ones that don't need many special effects so the big spells get the budget and look good (like Horse Sand, building the road in the warzone) and it has some cool interpretations of certain ideas like when the Thistledown Hair Man puts Jonathan Strange in an eternal night after he pisses him off just a bit too much and it's shown as the rest of the city being normal but then a huge sort of tornado centered around Strange's house with a night sky at the eye of the storm.
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Volcott posted:Tungsten doesn't grow on trees, and rocks are free. rocks are not "free," citizen. you are wasting the emperor's manpower and resources
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PhazonLink posted:maybe we just skip to the Rods of God. It continues to annoy me every time those are brought up that they went with that stupid name rather than calling them swords of damocles. Like it literally fits the story 100%, because the idea was to have them orbiting in space as a constant threat. But no, army dudes are ignorant barbarians.
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FFT posted:G.I. Girlfriend fits, though state issue slampiece also
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:state issue slampiece also
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AlbieQuirky posted:It’s good! The pacing is a bit odd in parts, but there are some excellent performances, and the costumes/sets/effects are very good. Totally, also It takes a couple of episodes to get going, but it's worth sticking with.
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Van Kraken posted:Napoleonic wars, not world wars. Is the show good? I loved the book and heard good things about the show, but never got around to it. I thought it was awful. Murkily shot, terrible sound and Marc Warren doing his usual I AM PRETTY AND SCOWL A LOT schtick he keeps ruining good villains with (RIP Steerpike and Teatime...). The gentleman with thistle-down hair is meant to be fey and twee-seeming at the start and become gradually terrifying as you realise oh gently caress he's serious oh gently caress what now oh gently caress he can't ah he just did, not show up as someone such blatant bad news that even dead-from-the-neck-up sons of privilege wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot wizard's staff. But I seem to be in a minority there.
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Volcott posted:I think the sword missile is different from the switchblade. No the Switchblade is a Hellfire missile that explodes before reaching the target, releasing a cloud of actual switchblades. The main challenge thus far has been to get them to flip open in the air
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OwlFancier posted:It continues to annoy me every time those are brought up that they went with that stupid name rather than calling them swords of damocles. that ain't no crime
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Dr. Stab posted:One sword missile probably kills fewer innocent people than an explosive. Drone warfare was safer than having a man on the ground to paint a target, with the same end result. But, after getting drones, they started assassinating way more people with bombs and blowing up more weddings. Plus it's still going into a sovereign country that we are not at war with and killing someone there because we've decided that's fine and no-one is going to stop us. Even zero collateral damage is too much, there's still the part where it's all an illegal assassination program.
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OwlFancier posted:It continues to annoy me every time those are brought up that they went with that stupid name rather than calling them swords of damocles. I’ve always called them ACME Guided Anvils
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Somfin posted:Plus it's still going into a sovereign country that we are not at war with and killing someone there because we've decided that's fine and no-one is going to stop us. Rules-Based International Order
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The whole rods from god concept seems functionally useless these days. It's a Wile E Coyote gag with a DARPA price tag. If your enemy is high-tech enough to stop you using drones and B2s, they'll also be high tech enough to detect a white hot hunk of metal in the sky and get human targets clear in time. They're not much use on fixed infrastructure either. Space dropped weapons have such a poor accuracy that you're basically obliged to carry a nuclear payload to cope with how far you're going to miss the target.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:We can quibble between drones with explosives and drones with swords all day quote:Development of a non-nuclear space based ‘superweapon’ also provides the U.S. with a potentially massive advantage against adversaries with a no-first use policy for their own nuclear arsenals such as China and North Korea - allowing the U.S. to strike targets with the same level of force as a nuclear warhead without escalation to a nuclear war.
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OwlFancier posted:afaik you're not allowed to say it outside of the aus, ireland, and uk threads You can say it in the cricket thread, and also the afl thread. Probably also the rugby threads. But those private schoolboys are usually too polite.
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Mister Speaker posted:some guy's head falls out of a tree while you're walking to work a few days after a 'targeted assassination'. NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:state issue slampiece
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RabbitWizard posted:We are exploding your people with the same power of a nuke, but not a nuke, so you can't strike back, neener neener. -Some smart military guy ...the hope is that they haven't gotten far enough up the tech tree to also have Space Rock yet
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NGL it was pretty sick when the dude in The Expanse hit Earth with like half a dozen asteroids. That's the kind of proactive ingenuity they need in the Iranian space program to really level the playing field.
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I kinda feel like if we dropped a giant tungsten rod on China from space, they might be inclined to ignore their own rules about nuclear first strikes. Like, we ignore our laws about use of military force all the god damned time, so this entire concept relies on the Chinese military having much better ethics than our own.
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