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The gunplay in Q2 is better than HL1. Don’t @ me.
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SeANMcBAY posted:The gunplay in Q2 is better than HL1. Don’t @ me. that's not saying much, hl1 isn't great because of its gunplay
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Aug 6, 2022 21:48
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Half-Life was the first FPS I played with manual reloading (not counting stuff like the pistol periodically playing a reloading animation in Duke 3D) and I remember being really, really confused by a preview talking about how you'd need to keep your weapons reloaded. Like that Area 51 arcade game? Do I have to shoot off-screen to reload?
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Aug 6, 2022 22:01
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An Actual Princess posted:that's not saying much, hl1 isn't great because of its gunplay Probably why I never cared for Counterstrike either.
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Aug 6, 2022 22:35
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The movement is definitely better since you don't have to crouch-jump to get onto every loving surface or ledge.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Art > Realism Volte posted:Quake 2 RTX was never designed to look good, I don't think anyone believes it looks good. SeANMcBAY posted:The gunplay in Q2 is better than HL1. Don’t @ me.
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I like Quake 2 a lot but it's a bullets game instead of a shotgun shells game so it should probably be called something else.
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Aug 6, 2022 23:33
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SeANMcBAY posted:Probably why I never cared for Counterstrike either. Cs gunplay is entirely different from hl1 and has been loved for decades so that one's on you tho
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Playing hl1 using CS 1.6 weapons kicked rear end and still does Haven't played hl2 with cs source weapons but who cares
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Squeezy Farm posted:Cs gunplay is entirely different from hl1 and has been loved for decades so that one's on you tho Oh it definitely is. I respect the whole pro scene around it but I never found it personally fun.
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I like the little details in Quake 2 like when enemies are down and they start shooting blindly. Overall it doesn't feel as stiff as Half-Life, but I prefer the HL arsenal way more. Launch yourself across the map with the tau cannon, launch a grenade from your MP5, long-jump and get up in their face and doubleblast them with a shotgun, or if you're out of shotgun ammo, crowbar them until they turn into bouncy meat blocks
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HolyKrap posted:I like the little details in Quake 2 like when enemies are down and they start shooting blindly. Overall it doesn't feel as stiff as Half-Life, but I prefer the HL arsenal way more. Launch yourself across the map with the tau cannon, launch a grenade from your MP5, long-jump and get up in their face and doubleblast them with a shotgun, or if you're out of shotgun ammo, crowbar them until they turn into bouncy meat blocks Quake 2 and Half-Life are both fantastic! Half-Life 2 sucks.
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Prophet of Nixon posted:Quake 2 and Half-Life are both fantastic! Half-Life 2 sucks. The Early FPS Megathread - Half-Life 2 sucks
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The Half Life 2 arsenal exists for those who are so bereft of creativity that the Gravity Gun is unusable.
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SCheeseman posted:The Half Life 2 arsenal exists for those who are so bereft of creativity that the Gravity Gun is unusable. Hey, sometimes you’re also bereft of barrels, crates, and saw blades
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Aug 7, 2022 01:45
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I love HL2. More so than the original.
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Isn't there a reprogrammed ball robot thingy that follows you around just before you get the gravity gun? I seem to remember you can carry that thing through like half the game and when I was in ravenholm it decided it was going to actively go after enemies for me.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Isn't there a reprogrammed ball robot thingy that follows you around just before you get the gravity gun? I seem to remember you can carry that thing through like half the game and when I was in ravenholm it decided it was going to actively go after enemies for me. I don't remember that at all but you might be thinking of a cool SMOD weapon
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There’s the ball you use to play fetch with Dog, which I think is a hacked Combine weapon. I never thought of trying that but it might work
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That might be it. I think there's an achievement for getting it through the mines.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Isn't there a reprogrammed ball robot thingy that follows you around just before you get the gravity gun? I seem to remember you can carry that thing through like half the game and when I was in ravenholm it decided it was going to actively go after enemies for me.
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Being honest, I just finished watching a friend stream the original Half-Life, and it gets pretty goddamn miserable by the end. I still really like it in spite of this somehow, but... yeah, you die and get sent back to your last save a lot, particularly the closer you get to (and in) Xen. The Nihilanth doesn't even particularly well explain what the hell is going on with the mechanics to the fight if you're going in blind, and even knowing what's going on it isn't a great fight, so that's working against it as well. I wanna say I remember Half-Life 2 being a fair bit lighter on the instant death aspect, but I suppose not really. I will say I'm a huge fan of Half-Life 2. Maybe not as much as the first (I haven't really decided TBH), but it's still a great game that held up great when I briefly revisited it on Xbox (which is far and away not the version you should be playing, but the fact that it plays as well as it does even on that hardware is pretty spiffy).
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The Half Life and Half Life 2 slander .... You're all insane.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:The Half Life and Half Life 2 slander .... Half Life 2 is a solid 8/11 game.
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The Early FPS Megathread - Half-Life 2, sucks? Not! A good game!
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The Early FPS Megathread - First Half-Life, 3 screenshots
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Half-Life 3 is old enough to be a Retro-FPS despite not being created yet.
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Convex posted:The Early FPS Megathread - Half-Life 2, sucks? Not! A good game! I mean it isn't a terrible game taken on its own, but it is a terrible sequel to Half-Life. It just feels so generic until the last 1/5th or so. Portal was a much better Half-Life sequel.
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I like the big change in setting. The Combine are great antagonists.
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The very end of HL2 is so bad I’m amazed fans didn’t riot. There’s no boss fight, no closure, you don’t even get to kill Breen, G-man literally just pops up and says “that’s all folks”. Then people had to wait like 18 months so episode 1 could come out and immediately retcon it. Between that and Halo 2, it was a rough year for FPS campaign endings.
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I think Quake 2 is a fun game and the RTX version looks just fine. That is all.
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I knew about the Cyberdemon in E3M9 but was not prepared for the rest of that level. 
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John Carmack just did a 5+ hr podcast with some dude called Jon Fridman . Haven’t listened yet but it looks cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I845O57ZSy4 https://overcast.fm/+eZyBHYc5Q
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Quantum of Phallus posted:John Carmack just did a 5+ hr podcast with some dude called Jon Fridman . Haven’t listened yet but it looks cool. You are two pages late :P
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SCheeseman posted:The Half Life 2 arsenal exists for those who are so bereft of creativity that the Gravity Gun is unusable. MMod does a nice job of making the "stock" FPS weapons (pistol, SMG, etc.) more satisfying to use. Vanilla HL2 makes everything except the shotgun feel like a peashooter. Half-Life's shotguns are always pretty good. Shadow Hog posted:Being honest, I just finished watching a friend stream the original Half-Life, and it gets pretty goddamn miserable by the end. I still really like it in spite of this somehow, but... yeah, you die and get sent back to your last save a lot, particularly the closer you get to (and in) Xen. The Nihilanth doesn't even particularly well explain what the hell is going on with the mechanics to the fight if you're going in blind, and even knowing what's going on it isn't a great fight, so that's working against it as well. Speaking of modders making everything Half-Life better, Black Mesa's Xen was much better, if a little lenghty. Even the Nihilanth fight is more bearable, although I was wondering why it was taking so long as my ammo was exhausted until I learned the only weapon that can do damage to is it the Gluon Gun, which is a bit of an odd choice.
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the smg in HL2 suuuucks. i like the pulse rifle, shotgun and the crossbow. and the magnum. hl2 owns!!!
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skasion posted:The very end of HL2 is so bad I’m amazed fans didn’t riot. There’s no boss fight, no closure, you don’t even get to kill Breen, G-man literally just pops up and says “that’s all folks”. Then people had to wait like 18 months so episode 1 could come out and immediately retcon it. The Citadel is an amazing climax, still get shivers seeing that beautifully brutal vista of striders walking down a corridor. The blue gravity gun is such a fulfilled power fantasy. Also people didn't go on the internet to look up the ending on google video or whatever and then proceed to complain loudly about it
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Flinger posted:The Citadel is an amazing climax, still get shivers seeing that beautifully brutal vista of striders walking down a corridor. The blue gravity gun is such a fulfilled power fantasy. Also people didn't go on the internet to look up the ending on google video or whatever and then proceed to complain loudly about it The citadel itself is fine, certainly better than most of the game. it’s the literal end that sucks, the last…ten minutes or whatever. You finally catch up to Breen after he’s been taunting you all the way, and then he just leaves sight unseen and you shoot two gunships and do a wacky physics puzzle to blow up the citadel and, implicitly, the entire town in your own face. (And Alyx’s lol) Ranking of HL2+episodes chapters since I replayed the whole thing recently Good: Don’t Go To Ravenholm Follow Freeman Our Benefactors Direct Intervention Under the Radar Ok but I got sick of them by the time I was done: Route Kanal Highway 17 Anticitizen One Urban Flight Exit 17 This Vortal Coil Freeman Pontifex Riding Shotgun Our Mutual Fiend Too much waiting around for things to happen: Point Insertion Red Letter Day Black Mesa East Dark Energy Undue Alarm To the White Forest T Minus One Did not have fun: Sandtraps Nova Prospekt Entanglement Lowlife That sag in the middle of the base game is so bad though. skasion fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Aug 7, 2022 |
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