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Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Lol how is this the first I'm learning of it

https://twitter.com/rohmerfan1127/status/1556466234429808641?t=RenQuXsxrlWbxKauBerJRw&s=19

# ? Aug 8, 2022 11:11

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# ? May 24, 2024 15:52

Regulus74: Jul 26, 2007

Spergin Morlock posted:

jealousy

Yes, there are a significant number of temporarily embarrassed epsteins out there

# ? Aug 8, 2022 13:38

nut: Jul 30, 2019

https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1556619212466143234?s=21&t=5gBb13nPAMR-xNbltaoBdg

wild to see Paris Marx in TIME, but there�s some good stuff in here

# ? Aug 8, 2022 14:12

fanfic insert: Nov 4, 2009

Cached Money posted:

Watched it, felt sort of bogus. It zones in on one particular accuser who is admittedly very dubious. The main "witness" they talk to is a record industry PR woman who is also a MJ fan. Then they get into some sort of plot involving NAMBLA members coaching the kid to normalize pedophilia somehow by making MJ a high profile pedo?

The thing that struck me about it was how they allowed the civil suit to predate the federal case. I don't know enough about how it usually work but I mean it makes sense that you'd hold the civil suits of until the federal case is settled.

And isn't it kind of official canon that the music industry is rooted in the mafia? Would it really be far fetched that they bribed a judge while also steering the media coverage away from the judge poor ruling?

I don't remember the NAMBLA stuff though, maybe i passed out while watching it.

# ? Aug 8, 2022 14:21

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana: Nov 25, 2013

I completely forgot ol' Dersch was wrapped up in the Menendez bros case. this twitter thread is an interesting find, i'll have to grab a copy of The Abuse Excuse and see what else comes up -

https://twitter.com/ExileGrimm/status/1519458910620598277?s=20&t=lMP-PMgfE4OeUj83P7GxCA

# ? Aug 8, 2022 15:53

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

nut posted:

https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1556619212466143234?s=21&t=5gBb13nPAMR-xNbltaoBdg

wild to see Paris Marx in TIME, but there’s some good stuff in here

great read

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:06

Pryor on Fire: May 14, 2013; they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Musk is really just a litmus test for stupid people, his bullshit does not fly with people who have even a tiny bit of experience in science/engineering, but all your local middle managers and small business owners love him. He is the perfect mascot for our current gilded age: emerald miner kid with almost no understanding of computers, science, energy, or orbital mechanics makes himself a billionaire with an ever-expanding program of government handouts and military contracting, and a steady stream of nonsense distractions.

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:22

nut: Jul 30, 2019

Pryor on Fire posted:

Musk is really just a litmus test for stupid people, his bullshit does not fly with people who have even a tiny bit of experience in science/engineering, but all your local middle managers and small business owners love him. He is the perfect mascot for our current gilded age: emerald miner kid with almost no understanding of computers, science, energy, or orbital mechanics makes himself a billionaire with an ever-expanding program of government handouts and military contracting, and a steady stream of nonsense distractions.

it�s a good reflection of how PR-heavy our conception of science is and how disconnected that is from any idea of what science looks like as a process. people see a picture of a flying car or a panda doing a somersault and say wow science rocks while some poor grad student works 18 hour days torturing a cell in a dish to turn into muscle kinda sorta

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:39

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana posted:

I completely forgot ol' Dersch was wrapped up in the Menendez bros case. this twitter thread is an interesting find, i'll have to grab a copy of The Abuse Excuse and see what else comes up -

https://twitter.com/ExileGrimm/status/1519458910620598277?s=20&t=lMP-PMgfE4OeUj83P7GxCA

Menendez/Dersh got me thinking about the FMSF again. Who else was on that initial advisory board? You guessed it, Louis Jolyon West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMacCIf11k

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:45

mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

mark immune posted:

Menendez/Dersh got me thinking about the FMSF again. Who else was on that initial advisory board? You guessed it, Louis Jolyon West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMacCIf11k

loving godDAMNIT

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:59

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

did Jolyon West have children?

# ? Aug 8, 2022 17:12

A Bakers Cousin: Dec 18, 2003; by vyelkin

gradenko_2000 posted:

did Jolyon West have children?

quote:

In 1999, West died at his home in Los Angeles at age 74. His family said the cause of death was metastatic cancer.[1] However, West's son John would later assert in a 2009 memoir that he helped his father end his life at the latter's choice by using prescription medication due to the terminal illness.[20]

# ? Aug 8, 2022 17:15

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

A Bakers Cousin posted:

he helped his father end his life at the latter's choice by using prescription medication

a real operator to the very end

# ? Aug 8, 2022 17:19

A Bakers Cousin: Dec 18, 2003; by vyelkin

lmao check this loving article

quote:

His father, Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West, was a world-renowned psychiatrist with expertise in brainwashing and cult activities who examined famous patients like Lee Harvey Oswald and Patricia Hearst. His mother, Kathryn West, was a respected psychologist. Friends called them pillars of the community.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=6801446&page=1

# ? Aug 8, 2022 17:22

Hooplah: Jul 15, 2006

I suppose the article doesn't say which community

# ? Aug 8, 2022 17:25

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

gradenko_2000 posted:

did Jolyon West have children?

for some definition of "have" absolutely yes

# ? Aug 8, 2022 17:40

nut: Jul 30, 2019

I don't think I've said it before and maybe it's worth mentioning that Jolly West's study where he brutally OD'd Tusko the elephant with LSD, which is unanimously pointed to as a huge joke and/or flop and/or animal abuse, was published in Science, the highest impact journal across all fields still

From, "From Tusko to Titin: the role for comparative physiology in an era of molecular discovery" by S. L. Lindstedt and K. C. Nishikawa in the American Journal of Physiology

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:03

Torpor: Oct 20, 2008; .. and now for my next trick, I'll pretend to be a political commentator...

HONK HONK

how is there not some comedy biopic about a guy named jolly west who is connected to tons of the most infamous people on planet earth who also killed an elephant with LSD

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:07

A Bakers Cousin: Dec 18, 2003; by vyelkin

edit: wrong movie I cant find it

edit2:

here it is

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2113681/

not quite but a fun movie, help helps with the bomb and goes to NK

A Bakers Cousin has issued a correction as of 18:13 on Aug 8, 2022

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:08

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

more fmsf stuff

https://isgp-studies.com/false-memory-syndrome-foundation-fmsf

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:13

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

from another scientific advisor in the FMSF Newsletter

quote:

Loftus, co-author of Witness for the Defense (St. Martin's Press;
$19.95) and an expert witness on memory in the cases involving the
McMartin Preschool, Oliver North and the Hillside Strangler,
speculates that such prestige-enhancing revisionism by Thomas could be
one explanation for why his memory differs so radically from
Hill's. Thomas is a "rigid person who insisted on the prerogatives of
his position," observes Emory's Neisser; such people can be "good
repressers" of unpleasant memories. As for Hill, Loftus suggests that
it is possible she unconsciously confused some past experiences.
"Could she have gotten the information elsewhere and created this
story?" asks Loftus .

* * *
Alas, there is no easy way to distinguish fact and fiction in many
memories. The best method is to find corroborating evidence, from
witnesses or written records, say, diaries or hospital charts, that
can document the event. Years from now, videotapes of the Hill-Thomas
hearings may verify the sights and sounds of their testimony, but the
heart of their dispute is likely to remain unresolved. Whose memory
told the truth?

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:17

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

mark immune posted:

Menendez/Dersh got me thinking about the FMSF again. Who else was on that initial advisory board? You guessed it, Louis Jolyon West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMacCIf11k

finally found the pdf i was looking for

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:24

fanfic insert: Nov 4, 2009

mark immune posted:

Menendez/Dersh got me thinking about the FMSF again. Who else was on that initial advisory board? You guessed it, Louis Jolyon West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMacCIf11k

never thought to look for a picture of him

thankful i can now more accurately picture him sloshing around inside an elephant while high on LSD

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:29

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Not surprised that a piece of poo poo like Bob Menendez would be in these circles

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:30

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

what about Super Menendez Bros

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:32

The Saucer Hovers: May 16, 2005

all remaining MJ defenders should permanently log off

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:45

biceps crimes: Apr 12, 2008

the pedophile had tremendous dancing skills and an angelic voice

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:46

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

The Saucer Hovers posted:

all remaining MJ defenders should permanently log off

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:48

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

faecal crapson

# ? Aug 8, 2022 18:52

nut: Jul 30, 2019

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1556460948050812929?s=20&t=elKCpFABq-My51S7SuXO_w

# ? Aug 8, 2022 19:11

fanfic insert: Nov 4, 2009

lmao not a hill ive planned to die on

e; just nvm not even gonna... definitely not an MJ-stan

fanfic insert has issued a correction as of 19:57 on Aug 8, 2022

# ? Aug 8, 2022 19:12

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

Torpor posted:

how is there not some comedy biopic about a guy named jolly west who is connected to tons of the most infamous people on planet earth who also killed an elephant with LSD

An extremely bleak but funny comedy? Get me the Coen brothers.

# ? Aug 8, 2022 19:58

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Walker Percy's Love in the Ruins (1971) is a political satire that's mostly too centrist (and Catholic) for this thread, but the central villain is a CIA agent (who may also be literally Satan) trying to buy or steal experimental psych drugs to brainwash a town into starting a race war. Its interesting to me since MKULTRA hadn't yet been revealed to the public at all

# ? Aug 8, 2022 20:06

Cached Money: Apr 11, 2010

fanfic insert posted:

The thing that struck me about it was how they allowed the civil suit to predate the federal case. I don't know enough about how it usually work but I mean it makes sense that you'd hold the civil suits of until the federal case is settled.

And isn't it kind of official canon that the music industry is rooted in the mafia? Would it really be far fetched that they bribed a judge while also steering the media coverage away from the judge poor ruling?

I don't remember the NAMBLA stuff though, maybe i passed out while watching it.

I mean sure there could be something going on but they don't really build a solid case whatsoever, they just talk about some suspicious things but don't go deep into any of it. Also they pull out a clip of certified insane narcissist Corey Feldman as some sort of testimony to MJs advantage.

# ? Aug 8, 2022 20:30

Stevie Lee: Oct 8, 2007

don jr knows

# ? Aug 8, 2022 20:38

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

lmao. Just learned one of those things that isn't connected to anything in particular, but is yet another in a string of deaths among people that the government wants dead. The German police found the identity of a man who designed a 3D-printed gun, and two days later he was found dead. The coroner said the 28-year-old must have had a heart attack because "the excitement was just too much for him."

# ? Aug 8, 2022 21:03

Azathoth: Apr 3, 2001

StashAugustine posted:

Walker Percy's Love in the Ruins (1971) is a political satire that's mostly too centrist (and Catholic) for this thread, but the central villain is a CIA agent (who may also be literally Satan) trying to buy or steal experimental psych drugs to brainwash a town into starting a race war. Its interesting to me since MKULTRA hadn't yet been revealed to the public at all

Yeah but it was 20 years after the CIA massively dosed a whole loving town with something and blamed it on bad flour. It's not like the idea wasn't just sorta floating around out there.

# ? Aug 8, 2022 21:38