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chaosapiant posted:Edit: Oh. Witcher 2. I can’t read. I do like The Witcher 2 opening though. What’s bad about that one? It is all the worst impulses of late-aughts gaming congealed into one. Cinematic(tm) set peices with atrocious QTEs? You betcha. Lazy railroaded gameplay that is somehow both over and under-tutorialized? No doubt. Unbearable forced stealth section? Oh boy, I sure hope you brought your quick-save key! The first couple of hours is like playing a lovely Uncharted game. If I wanted to play a lovely Uncarted game, I could just go play Uncharted! Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Arc Hammer posted:At least Flotsam is where the game gets good. It do, still jank, but it do. And I understand why they felt they needed the crappy intro in 2011. They probably didn't trust that people would enjoy bumming around some backwater, soaking up the local color, and talking to their old mates about politics for hours on end with no combat in sight. Based on how people talk about it, I expect they grasp their core competencies much better by the time Witcher 3 rolls around. Looking forward to that. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Aug 9, 2022 19:39
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You'd think that in a world with this many monsters, more people would keep something silver on hand.
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That poo poo’s expensive man, what do you expect everyone to do, stop treating silver as a commodity so they have silver tipped clubs for the nekkers and horrible spider crab monsters?
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Aug 10, 2022 08:59
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Even if you had silver-tipped weapons, the issue of what good, common folk would actually wield them against various demons and abominations remains. Just pay a Witcher I say and a monster perishes either way
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Aug 10, 2022 09:20
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Sure, but you'd expect, like, well-provisioned guards or something to have a silver-tipped club or crossbow bolts stashed away somewhere in a world where you can walk down the street without being accosted by a half dozen fanged horrors.
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Aug 10, 2022 09:42
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And it's mentioned a bunch of times that if you get enough armed people together that killing a monster is pretty easy and has mostly already been done in a genocidal settling project. But Witchers know about how to end curses, the behaviours and habitats of monsters and how to prevent them from becoming a danger in the first place.
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It's one thing to go after a nest of Drowners or Griffins, but completely other to hunt one of lower Vampires like Bruxa. And as mentioned it doesn't even take into account mostly game enemies like Wraiths. Then there's an economic calculation: you might arm a bunch of locals, but every dead one won't add into workforce. Same with soldiers - get the local garrison decimated and replacing them might take a decade to find and train. It's vastly better to task the travelling specialist. If he dies then at worst the monster has been fed, and at best they took each other.
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Honestly relying on a Witcher seems relatively impractical on the whole because they’re a dying breed. Like, even ignoring the Kaer Morhen massacre creating a Witcher is more of a crapshoot than properly arming a platoon with silver in terms of time/resources since you’re just raising an orphan to probably die anyway, and each generation of Witchers seem less and less inclined to subject future generations to the Trial.
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Aug 10, 2022 12:20
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A cadre of armoured soldiers with silver spears and swords and a mage, who could also study curses and whatnot, could easily replace witchers
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Offloading extra male orphans seems way easier than feeding,clothing and training them yourself. And with mages you invite another headache of being reliant on an entity that might request something more than gold and occasional child. E: also Witchers tend to put quite some of that gold straight back into local booze and wenches economy.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:A cadre of armoured soldiers with silver spears and swords and a mage, who could also study curses and whatnot, could easily replace witchers This is almost (at least part of) the storyline for The Witcher 1.
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alex314 posted:It's one thing to go after a nest of Drowners or Griffins, but completely other to hunt one of lower Vampires like Bruxa. And as mentioned it doesn't even take into account mostly game enemies like Wraiths. WoodrowSkillson posted:A cadre of armoured soldiers with silver spears and swords and a mage, who could also study curses and whatnot, could easily replace witchers
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chaosapiant posted:This is almost (at least part of) the storyline for The Witcher 1. Pretty sure it's a thing in the books too. Monsters are basically endangered species and can be taken out cheaply if you don't mind losing a few expendable soldiers, which is why the Witcher profession is dying out.
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Halloween Jack posted:This reminds me of an old meme in D&D fandom: if there are dungeons full of treasure sitting around, why doesn't the king send his army to clean them out? The answer is that a battalion of Level 0 soldiers will kill orcs and zombies and giant rats just fine, but a higher level monster will slaughter them by the dozens. And the Witcher is basically a D&D setting. wow classism
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Hobo Clown posted:Pretty sure it's a thing in the books too. Monsters are basically endangered species and can be taken out cheaply if you don't mind losing a few expendable soldiers, which is why the Witcher profession is dying out. The lie is that there are fewer and fewer monsters. (Because people are monsters, get it?)
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Hobo Clown posted:Pretty sure it's a thing in the books too. Monsters are basically endangered species and can be taken out cheaply if you don't mind losing a few expendable soldiers, which is why the Witcher profession is dying out. Well, that's only partially the issue. There's currently no living mage in the Witcher strongholds (that we know of) that knows how to create new Witchers. So it's combination of "the world has moved on" and they're unable to create new ones.
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Witcher 4 is going to be about Redania declaring a War on Monsters and the game will be a clumsy metaphor for post-9/11 america
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Ainsley McTree posted:Witcher 4 is going to be about Redania declaring a War on Monsters and the game will be a clumsy metaphor for post-9/11 america And it will be an Action-RTS hybrid 
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After years of me telling my friend how good witcher 3 was he had the balls to ask me if it was worth 6 euros now its on sale
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You're right, it's worth $60.
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I gotta keep an eye out for when it goes on sale on XBox, I haven't even played Blood and Wine!!!
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may as well wait for the remaster at this point that's due next year right?
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Finished up Witcher 2. Give it a B, maybe a B- Clunky mess of a game buoyed up by good, if sometimes fragmented, writing. Similar to Witcher 1, it still kinda felt like a well-produced NWN mod.
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I played through Witcher 1 earlier this year and I really liked it. I actually liked the combat too, especially the group stance which lets you actually feel like you're cutting through hordes of enemies. By the end of the game, I was destroying huge groups of enemies with Igni and group stance and enjoying every minute. I switched over to Witcher 2 (a playthrough that was put on hold by Elden Ring's release) and it didn't feel nearly as satisfying.
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Skippy McPants posted:Finished up Witcher 2. Give it a B, maybe a B- Agreed with most of this. It's a fun game but flawed. Still, compared to the utter dreck of other 2011 RPGs (Human Revolution possibly excepted) Witcher 2 is a masterpiece. One thing Witcher 2 does best of all three games is adopt the Witcher novels' habit of using little vignettes to flesh out the world. It's fun to step into other characters shoes and try and reveal the conspiracy by choosing dialogue options where the character knows what's up even when the player doesn't. Triss, stop thinking with your vagina.
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Being magic/immortal really must gently caress with your brain, because even just going off the books Triss seems pretty dumb in this regard for being in, at least what, her mid-forties?
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I've still got a big soft spot for W2. Once you're out of the tutorial section everything up to maybe that last act is great. I pick Roche path everytime.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:may as well wait for the remaster at this point Last update was that it'll be Q4 of this year https://twitter.com/witchergame/status/1527299944834510854
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I still think it's unfortunate that Iorveth doesn't make a guest appearance in W3 at any point, but if I had to pick between the two, I am glad that Roche made the cut. Never met a more trustworthy war criminal, I'd plunge the northern kingdoms into chaos for him and I know he'd do the same for me
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Bro-che is the best in Witcher 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCawtVDOfAs We're coming up on Q4 2022 pretty fast. Do you think we'll get a trailer soon for the next-gen edition of Witcher 3? I'd like to see the upgrades. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 11, 2022 |
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Roche is the captain price of the witcher universe. Pretty awful person when you take three seconds to think about it, but part of you wants him to like you anyway
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Witcher 1 and 2 are two of my favorite games ever but the gulf between either one and 3 is enormous. At the time they came out I dunno if you could’ve predicted they formed basis of what led to 3. Can’t even think of another series that made a leap like that
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I played witcher 2 twice and I enjoyed it immensly both times. Game is a solid A+ in my book. The only thing that bothered me is the dialoge sometimes sounding incredibly echo-y during cutscenes.
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i am a moron posted:Witcher 1 and 2 are two of my favorite games ever but the gulf between either one and 3 is enormous. At the time they came out I dunno if you could’ve predicted they formed basis of what led to 3. Can’t even think of another series that made a leap like that This is a good opinion. I love the Witcher 1 and 2 to death, but the fact that played back to back, they managed to tie together in certain ways and lead into the amazing Witcher 3 is like a miracle. When Witcher 3 was announced as being open world, I was hopeful but not expecting it to have the same level of detail and choices/consequences as W1 and 2. And while it doesn't have wholly diverging chapters, it has a hell of a lot of replayability. Every year, I read through all 8 Witcher novels, then immediately play through the Witcher trilogy in one go. It's an amazing start->finish. For extra spice and authenticity, I sometimes do the Witcher games in Polish with English subtitles.
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I've only played the Iorweth path cause gently caress the police.
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Arc Hammer posted:Still, compared to the utter dreck of other 2011 RPGs (Human Revolution possibly excepted) Witcher 2 is a masterpiece. I dunno, I'm sure this'll be a controversial take, but I'd only rate Witcher 2 as slightly better than Dragon Age 2. They're both trash fires gameplay-wise, salvaged by some bright spots in the writing department. I give Witcher 2 the edge because it doesn't fall apart as badly in Act 3. The final encounter with Letho does a lot to elevate an otherwise pretty meh climax. Speaking of, Letho is a loving idiot. I haven't started Witcher 3 yet, but he's a rube for thinking he'll get to retire peacefully after showcasing to an emperor his exceptional skill at murdering heads of state.
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