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The Bloop posted:The most evil people seem to age very early but then stay that way forever and refuse to die Patrick Stewart doesn't seem that bad.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I'm sorry Henry Kissinger hosed you thank you for your condolences
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Tiggum posted:Patrick Stewart doesn't seem that bad. Not everyone prematurely old is evil but a lot of evil people are prematurely old
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Aug 10, 2022 15:01
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Tiggum posted:Patrick Stewart doesn't seem that bad. You clearly haven't watched Star Trek: Picard then.
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The Bloop posted:Not everyone prematurely old is evil but a lot of evil people are prematurely old I remember my barber telling me: "yeah nah if you weren't balding by 30, you'll never go bald" and I just said: "Ma'm I'm 23."
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Male pattern baldness is a dumb X chromosome thing so look to your maternal grandfather for your best preview of the future
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The Bloop posted:Male pattern baldness is a dumb X chromosome thing so look to your maternal grandfather for your best preview of the future I have no idea what he looked like. e: I think he owned a yellow soft cap.
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Those e-mails where Sidney Blumenthal informed her U.S. allies were genociding black towns wholesale in Libya, right? I assume that was too long to put on a hat. Tiggum posted:Patrick Stewart doesn't seem that bad. Somebody hasn't watched Picard.
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Aug 10, 2022 15:05
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SplitSoul posted:Those e-mails where Sidney Blumenthal informed her U.S. allies were genociding black towns wholesale in Libya, right? I assume that was too long to put on a hat. There has been no point in either of our lifetimes where U.S. allies haven't been publicly known to be genociding people wholesale all over the planet. The American voter really doesn't care about such things. She lost for other reasons lmao.
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Male balding is also a sign of high testosterone so turn that into a motivation to get ripped since you have the genes for it.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:There has been no point in either of our lifetimes where U.S. allies haven't been publicly known to be genociding people wholesale all over the planet. The American voter really doesn't care about such things. Well obviously, I just think each mention of that catchphrase should be appended with the fact they proved her personal complicity in genocide.
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SplitSoul posted:Well obviously, I just think each mention of that catchphrase should be appended with the fact they proved her personal complicity in genocide. Who cares, the emails everyone wants are the ones that show where she's been hiding Ben Ghazi
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Aug 10, 2022 15:27
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Shame Boy posted:Who cares, the emails everyone wants are the ones that show where she's been hiding Ben Ghazi She had Caro killed to hide that info.
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Aug 10, 2022 15:30
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Shame Boy posted:Who cares, the emails everyone wants are the ones that show where she's been hiding Ben Ghazi he’s hiding out with Ben Dover
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Aug 10, 2022 16:43
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His real name is Obi-Wan Ghazi.
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The Bloop posted:Male pattern baldness is a dumb X chromosome thing so look to your maternal grandfather for your best preview of the future matthew modine in stranger things, sweet!
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My gampy had one heck of a widow's peak but at least the top of his head was fine all the way until he died at the ripe ol' age of 88 so I guess I can deal with that
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boar guy posted:matthew modine in stranger things, sweet! You can't prove anything. 
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The Bloop posted:The most evil people seem to age very early but then stay that way forever and refuse to die They all do the Palpatine lightning thing
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https://twitter.com/ranjanxroy/status/1557338913181782019
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https://twitter.com/NewDiscourses/status/1557403903058014208?t=5qnJv9WGIZCoTQ00pLlJKQ&s=19 "Um actually it is the pro slavery people that were anticapitalists because the people who liked slavery said that capitalism was bad, and the people who said capitalism was good said slavery was bad. Checkmate, Marxists  "
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Frosted Flake posted:Male balding is also a sign of high testosterone so turn that into a motivation to get ripped since you have the genes for it. i went bald when i was 18 but i decided to get fat instead
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/NewDiscourses/status/1557403903058014208?t=5qnJv9WGIZCoTQ00pLlJKQ&s=19 of course they were opposed to capitalism, they endorsed serfdom. they weren't called "The Southern Aristocracy" for nothin
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Peanut President posted:of course they were opposed to capitalism, they endorsed serfdom. they weren't called "The Southern Aristocracy" for nothin the american slavers who felt that liberalism should be accomplished by means of a slave race had a fight over doctrine with the american and european nonslavers who felt that liberalism should be accomplished by means of a slave caste of the poor (whose children were stolen from them from infancy and sent to work, were given no education, and could be killed by their masters with it only assessed as a property crime not at all dissimilarly) instead it had nothing to do with differing opinions about capitalism, just differing opinions about how to go about the eugenicist ideals of the liberal project
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good ol’ John C. Calhoun, the Marx of the master class
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Proust Malone posted:good ol’ John C. Calhoun, the Marx of the master class he certainly could give a class on being a master im sure
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definitely not saying anything negative about the abolitionists who by and large were not liberals the shame is not that the southern aristocratic sandcastle was kicked over but that it didn't loving stay buried and that the rest of the liberal project wasn't burned to ashes and scattered into the sea
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A Bakers Cousin posted:he certainly could give a class on being a master im sure he certainly had no illusions about “free” labor being free under capitalism
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atelier morgan posted:the american slavers who felt that liberalism should be accomplished by means of a slave race had a fight over doctrine with the american and european nonslavers who felt that liberalism should be accomplished by means of a slave caste of the poor (whose children were stolen from them from infancy and sent to work, were given no education, and could be killed by their masters with it only assessed as a property crime not at all dissimilarly) instead Marx very clearly delineated slavery as a precapitalist exploitive social structure that class struggle eventually overturned into feudalism(which was itself often overturned into capitalism). In that framing, The capitalists being anti-slavery makes sense because they were liberals benefiting from the struggles of the past, thus seeing it as a moral inevitability, and the slavers being anti capitalism is obvious.
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Slavers loving despised Marx lol, but I mean so did a whole lot of the anti-slavery people, just for nominally different reasons. He was pen pals with Lincoln and wrote in the New York Tribune about it and the ACW. The NYT owes its existence now to Marx because he made some rich guy so mad he dumped a bunch of money into it to elevate it as a pro-capitalism alternative
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"build a progressive bench" is rich coming from the lady who cleared the field for herself because it was HER TURN.
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ikanreed posted:Marx very clearly delineated slavery as a precapitalist exploitive social structure that class struggle eventually overturned into feudalism(which was itself often overturned into capitalism). the slavery of the ancient world and the slavery of the antebellum south were very different structures and the latter most certainly did not predate feudalism but most importantly the liberals were not benefiting from anything because both sides of this argument were liberals calhoun was just as much heir to locke as any of his contemporaries e: there were plenty of people who opposed southern slavery because it was a loving blight on humanity, but also it was an intra-liberal struggle atelier morgan has issued a correction as of 00:11 on Aug 11, 2022 |
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ArmZ posted:what even is capitalism these days a miserable little pile of secrets… but enough talk!
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not trying to argue but I think you could probably find chattel slavery similar to the american south in the past but you're not wrong that its certainly a distinct "type" of slavery
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A Bakers Cousin posted:not trying to argue but I think you could probably find chattel slavery similar to the american south in the past but you're not wrong that its certainly a distinct "type" of slavery yeah definitely, just slavery as the social structure and mode of production in europe that was replaced by serfdom, feudalism, manorialism etc, was not equivalent to slavery in 19th century america
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atelier morgan posted:the slavery of the ancient world and the slavery of the antebellum south were very different structures and the latter most certainly did not predate feudalism I don't think anyone who thinks keeping people in bondage is okay really meets the genuine definition of liberal. Like, you can see the similarities between dough face pieces of poo poo and today's democratic party, but that doesn't make them liberal.
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ikanreed posted:I don't think anyone who thinks keeping people in bondage is okay really meets the genuine definition of liberal. You don’t think Joe Biden meets the definition of a liberal?
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ikanreed posted:I don't think anyone who thinks keeping people in bondage is okay really meets the genuine definition of liberal. prepped this one in the chamber expecting a response like this; from Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter-History    
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