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AnimeIsTrash posted:I’m a third world Maoist. I'm still pretty sure MTW is objectively correct revolutionary science but it's no way for me to live my life. Sorry everybody.
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Aug 11, 2022 19:13
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Art of the Wheel
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Aug 11, 2022 19:14
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loving ice burn on his forehead size lol
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Aug 11, 2022 19:14
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indigi posted:I'm still pretty sure MTW is objectively correct revolutionary science this everyone should be bullied into 3rd worldism
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Aug 11, 2022 19:17
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eSports Chaebol posted:is it still a thing where ridiculous microstates like Sealand recognize Taiwan because Taiwan will reciprocate? I wonder how many Kings of Bir Tawil recognize Taiwan what does “recognizing” taiwan even mean in a diplomatic context if they haven’t formally declared independence? recognizing them as the rightful government of all china?
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Aug 11, 2022 19:19
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AnimeIsTrash posted:this although I do think MTW hold that the USSR was imperialist
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Aug 11, 2022 19:21
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Choice bits from Kim Yo Jong's speech the other day https://twitter.com/RedMachineCCCP/status/1557785515784544258?s=20&t=eIF7RTCtS19k47vAXpQC9Q
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Aug 11, 2022 19:36
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Homeless Friend posted:i was gonna do some PS in some other thread but found this guy and im dying at the framing of tranquil bodhisattva trump Homeless Friend posted:Art of the Wheel
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Aug 11, 2022 19:38
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Comrade Koba posted:what does “recognizing” taiwan even mean in a diplomatic context if they haven’t formally declared independence? recognizing them as the rightful government of all china? recognizing the state of the republic of china, which governs taiwan and doesn’t say much in particular about any previous claims that predecessor governments may have held. this precludes diplomatic relations with the prc due to one china and so only works for fake states with no economy or very small states with only one significant trade partner (usually usa) (so e.g. some caribbean and central american countries go for it). it doesn’t imply anything in particular about who you think is the legitimate government of the mainland but it’s just the rule that you can only have official relations with one government of china
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Aug 11, 2022 19:39
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Choice bits from Kim Yo Jong's speech the other day She can fix me
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Aug 11, 2022 20:03
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Choice bits from Kim Yo Jong's speech the other day she’s so gorgeous
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Aug 11, 2022 20:03
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I was just thinking yesterday about whatever happened to North Korea's Juche thot
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Aug 11, 2022 20:05
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Horatius Bonar posted:I was just thinking yesterday about whatever happened to North Korea's Juche thot she was executed with a 155mm artillery barrage. she's fine now.
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Aug 11, 2022 20:11
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Call on Xi~
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Aug 11, 2022 20:12
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im confused, doesnt china control china? what do they mean "take control" of taiwan (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 11, 2022 20:34
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Mantis42 posted:imagine the gbs thread posting and emptyquoting osint war porn a hundred posts a second?
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Aug 11, 2022 21:13
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:im confused, doesnt china control china? what do they mean "take control" of taiwan There's no way this isn't trolling.
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Aug 11, 2022 21:28
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https://mobile.twitter.com/annie_sparrow/status/1557446076004704256
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Aug 11, 2022 22:08
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comedyblissoption posted:afaik china is not supplying saudi arabia with chinese made tanks, planes, and bombs to genocide yemen so there is a material difference of the nature of their relationship 50 Wing Loong 2 drones at 40 million a year, and assisting in developing a domestic drone industry. Peanuts compared to America but their not supplying Saudi Arabia with all that stuff doesn't seem to be out of choice. indigi posted:although I do think MTW hold that the USSR was imperialist I think it was Gradenko posted some book pages recently somewhere about the Chinese reaction to the USSR sending the tanks into Hungary under Kruschev and apparently Mao thought the USSR had strong imperialist tendencies. I'm sorry I can't remember where he posted it.
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Aug 11, 2022 23:53
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Weka posted:50 Wing Loong 2 drones at 40 million a year, and assisting in developing a domestic drone industry. that whole situation is interesting because mao and zhou stopped the soviets from invading poland the day before but recognized the fascist counter-revolution underway in hungary and were supportive of the invasion
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Aug 11, 2022 23:58
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"Account of a Meeting at the CPSU CC, on the Situation in Poland and Hungary." October 24, 1956. History and Public Policy Program Digital Archive. SUA, Fond 07/16, Svazek 3. Originally published in English in the Cold War International History Project Bulletin no. 5 (Spring 1995): 53-55. First published in Hungarian by Tibor Hajdu, “Az 1956 október 24-i moszkvai értekezlet,” in Évkönyv 1992, I., ed. János M. Bak et al. (Budapest: 1956-os Intézet, 1992), 149-156. Translated by Mark Kramer. https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/112196 "Working Notes from the Session of the CPSU CC Presidium on 23 October 1956." October 23, 1956. History and Public Policy Program Digital Archive. TsKhSD, F. 3, Op. 12, D. 1006, Ll. 4-4ob, compiled by V. N. Malin. Published in CWIHP Bulletin 8-9, pp. 388-389 https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/111880 "Working Notes from the Session of the CPSU CC Presidium on 26 October 1956." October 26, 1956. History and Public Policy Program Digital Archive. TsKhSD, F. 3, Op. 12, D. 1005, Ll. 53-53ob, 62-62ob, compiled by V. N. Malin. Published in CWIHP Bulletin 8-9, p.389 https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/111881 "Working Notes from the Session of the CPSU CC Presidium on 30 October 1956." October 30, 1956. History and Public Policy Program Digital Archive. TsKhSD, F. 3, Op. 12, D. 1006, Ll. 6-14, compiled by V. N. Malin. Published in CWIHP Bulletin 8-9, pp. 392-393. https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/113647 Jian, Chen. Mao's China and the Cold War. Chapel Hill, NC: University of North Carolina Press, 2012. those would be the relevant primary sources and the last is a book covering the cold war from china's perspective but covers the CPC delegation to moscow in one of its chapters and its effects on poland and hungary in october '56
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Aug 12, 2022 00:02
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Raskolnikov38 posted:those would be the relevant primary sources and the last is a book covering the cold war from china's perspective but covers the CPC delegation to moscow in one of its chapters and its effects on poland and hungary in october '56 can you summarize pretty please. what did Mao think they should of done in Poland (and Hungary but I’m a bit more familiar with the background of what happened in Poland)
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Aug 12, 2022 00:11
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indigi posted:can you summarize pretty please. let gomulka take control of the PUWP like everyone in poland wanted and not invade. the soviet ambassador was probably getting all his information on poland from PUWP members that would lose power if gomulka was leader so they told him, and he told moscow, that a popular uprising was underway to force gomulka to power and leave the soviet bloc. the chinese, who had just hosted ocheb, the guy gomulka would replace, knew there wasn't a bourgeois revolution underway in poland and told khrushchev to chill and liu shaoqi lectured him on being a big power chauvinist. hungary was clearly out of the capability of nagy or the hungarian communists to control and violence against party members made it clear an intervention was needed whereas poland would continue to be a soviet ally under gomulka.
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Aug 12, 2022 00:16
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its very funny because from the sources you see it takes khrushchev almost a week to figure out rokossovsky and the natolinists played him but in his memoirs he swears up and down he wasn't fooled
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Aug 12, 2022 00:20
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China and Saudi's first military cooperation were the DF3 and DF21 mid range ballistic missiles.
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Aug 12, 2022 00:41
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China shouldn't be working with the Saudis methinks.
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Aug 12, 2022 00:43
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AnimeIsTrash posted:China shouldn't be working with the Saudis methinks. Why not? The sooner the Saudis drop the petrodollar the better
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Aug 12, 2022 01:05
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indigi posted:what did Mao think they should of done in Poland (and Hungary but I’m a bit more familiar with the background of what happened in Poland) gradenko_2000 posted:here's a bit from "Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life", on what the Chinese thought of the Hungarian issue as it was developing in real-time:
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Aug 12, 2022 01:05
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thank you very much
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Aug 12, 2022 01:06
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mhar4/status/1557657137064845312 thread title plz
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Aug 12, 2022 01:09
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oh another funny thing is that the whole situation in Poland started when bolesaw bierut went to the 20th party congress, heard the secret speech and then died e: and then because he died ocheb and others went nuts distributing the secret speech, making Poland probably the country where it circulated the most other than the ussr Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 01:25 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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Aug 12, 2022 01:22
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Aug 12, 2022 01:26
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I particularly liked that the Chinese were all for non-intervention in Hungary until they started killing security officers.
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Aug 12, 2022 01:28
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Who is G.Rundle?
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Aug 12, 2022 01:29
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Weka posted:I particularly liked that the Chinese were all for non-intervention in Hungary until they started killing security officers. this is the first ive ever heard about the democracy loving hungarians lynching cops weird how this never comes up in popular english language history on the subject
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Aug 12, 2022 01:37
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yes… democracy loving…. definitely don’t ask what Hungary was doing 11 years earlier
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Aug 12, 2022 01:40
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stephenthinkpad posted:Go look up the Xi Abe hand shake photo. i started cackling like a maniac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFQmh1Xya8&t=22s
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Aug 12, 2022 02:06
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Homeless Friend posted:i was gonna do some PS in some other thread but found this guy and im dying at the framing of tranquil bodhisattva trump Pener Kropoopkin posted:I've witnessed the wheel of Samsara as it turns endlessly through the cozmos, and folks let me tell you: I've seen better wheels before. Ok? Homeless Friend posted:Art of the Wheel lol
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Aug 12, 2022 02:57
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I've witnessed the wheel of Samsara as it turns endlessly through the cozmos, and folks let me tell you: I've seen better wheels before. Ok? Pener Kropoopkin posted:People always come up to me and say Mr. Bodhisattva Trump, thank you for remaining in the mortal plane to guide us to enlightenment. I wish I could give it all up, believe me! I used to have a great life sitting underneath the bodhi tree, before all this enlightenment stuff. I guess it's true what they say. It's about the journey and not the destination. These are really good
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Aug 12, 2022 03:00
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if you think getting technical is a good idea, the Qing only really occupied the western coast and plains. They never went into the central mountains or the east coast which were aboriginal lands. The japanese more or less unified the island and then when the ROC received it back they basically didn't recognize the "uncivilized" mountain tribes for a long time
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