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Mr Teatime posted:MkV armour owns. 
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I'm new to 30k and am planning to play in a small local campaign as I build out my force of Word Bearers. I have bits to make up to 20 despoilers with chainsword and pistol from the AoD Mk VI, but should I still plan to build some regular tacticals (maybe with chain bayonets)?. I'm building towards a pretty unsurprising but balanced Dark Brethren sort of list with gal vorbak, ashen circle, a support squad with warpfire plasma and a mara ghal all making appearances eventually so I'm trying to calibrate how many Line options I should build for as we get to full point games.
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Aug 11, 2022 04:15
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parabolic posted:I'm new to 30k and am planning to play in a small local campaign as I build out my force of Word Bearers. I have bits to make up to 20 despoilers with chainsword and pistol from the AoD Mk VI, but should I still plan to build some regular tacticals (maybe with chain bayonets)?. I'm building towards a pretty unsurprising but balanced Dark Brethren sort of list with gal vorbak, ashen circle, a support squad with warpfire plasma and a mara ghal all making appearances eventually so I'm trying to calibrate how many Line options I should build for as we get to full point games. I ran a similar list in my local league, albeit with Assault instead of Despoilers. It made me a big believer in basic Tacticals - at low points levels, they're a lot of bodies for the cost and spit out a ton of firepower. Warpfire TSS also won a place in my heart. If you want to run Dark Brethren, though, I'd recommend finding space for a Lascannon HSS before 1k. Having the ability to pick a Rhino as a Sacrifice and get that first point of Favor real early is gonna go a long way. Ashen Circle are in a weird spot. I love 'em but they really could have used some more Pinning support or just better action synchronization - using those fancy flamers was just asking to get the squad mulched with Return Fire by whatever they were about to charge. Torrent 6 lets you rack up a bunch of hits with them, though.
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Aug 11, 2022 12:35
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Houston, we have a new guy.
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Aug 11, 2022 15:45
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I really love this one
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Aug 11, 2022 15:50
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BULBASAUR posted:I really love this one The proto-Slaaneshi sword guard is a nice extra touch. This is a good model. Now start the timer until every 3D printing group has stls of that new combi volkite design up...
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Aug 11, 2022 15:53
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I can't even imagine this game without a printer. Just the shoulderpads would cost about a car payment.
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Aug 11, 2022 16:04
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I dont have a printer or easy access to one but I'm a very slow hobbyer so I hope things like plastic breachers and assault marines will be out when I finish what I already have 
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Aug 11, 2022 16:12
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Ristolaz posted:I dont have a printer or easy access to one but I'm a very slow hobbyer so I hope things like plastic breachers and assault marines will be out when I finish what I already have Likewise. It's doable, just a pain.
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Aug 11, 2022 16:17
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Speaking of plastic breachers and assault marines, do we have any hint on whether everything is going to be Mk6 going forward?
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Aug 11, 2022 16:17
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moths posted:I can't even imagine this game without a printer. Just the shoulderpads would cost about a car payment. I need to either get two printers for bits and scenery or one really good one, but wither way it's more money than I can spare right now vs buying like one or two things from FW to finish my box.
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Aug 11, 2022 16:21
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Ghost of Babyhead posted:Speaking of plastic breachers and assault marines, do we have any hint on whether everything is going to be Mk6 going forward? Vagues clues that mk2 will be A Thing eventually.
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Aug 11, 2022 16:38
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God drat this is good
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My friend has a semi-serious question (after reading how Horus fell after having a bad dream): is there a primarch that doesn't do stupid poo poo? I'm not really qualified to answer since I haven't read that many books. Sang? Vulcan? Rowboat?
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Aug 11, 2022 17:56
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I mean, doing stupid poo poo is kind of their thing, since the whole point of the Primarchs is that at heart they are as deeply flawed as ordinary humans.
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Aug 11, 2022 17:59
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Did Ferrus ever do anything overtly stupid? He kinda just loved making things, loved his brother, then died.
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Aug 11, 2022 18:02
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Nazzadan posted:Did Ferrus ever do anything overtly stupid? He kinda just loved making things, loved his brother, then died. Hubris. He jumped into Istvann V way too early and paid for it with his life.
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Aug 11, 2022 18:15
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JcDent posted:My friend has a semi-serious question (after reading how Horus fell after having a bad dream): I think maybe the Khan?
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Aug 11, 2022 18:15
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Khan is kinda brilliant and insightful, Bobby G and Sanguinis don't really do anything dumb AFAIK. The only stupid thing G did was trust the codex in a battle against the alpha legion, who also had a copy of his playbook.
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Aug 11, 2022 18:20
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Pinwiz11 posted:Hubris. He jumped into Istvann V way too early and paid for it with his life. Ah yeah, good point
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Aug 11, 2022 18:36
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JcDent posted:is there a primarch that doesn't do stupid poo poo? Fulgrim, don't kinkshame.
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Aug 11, 2022 18:36
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Fulgrim really should have listened to those Eldar. Magnus was also almost impossibly wrong about every single thing. There are no wolves on Fenris? You dumb bink, that planet is made out of wolves.
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Aug 11, 2022 18:50
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moths posted:There are no wolves on Fenris? You dumb bink, that planet is made out of wolves. The thing about that is all the wolves on Fenris used to be people, every last one of them. They've all mutated into giant wolves because reasons  moths posted:Khan is kinda brilliant and insightful, Bobby G and Sanguinis don't really do anything dumb AFAIK. The Khan alienated himself from his brothers, semi-intentionally, and it almost came back to bite him in the rear end more than once. No one knew whose side he was on, and while that gave him some freedom to decide for himself, it also meant that everyone considered him a potential enemy. His being a loner also caused some issues during the Siege of Terra, because Dorn (and everyone else, Loyalist and Traitor) struggled to account for what he would do, which sometimes resulted in brilliant counterpunches that saved the day, but also frequently resulted in the defenders not being able to rely on his men to be ordered to where they were most needed. Bobby G's big issue is that he was an arrogant prick, and was so fixated on his duty that he overlooked a lot of the human element of his interactions with others. While there were some Primarchs that straight up loved him for his dependability, others couldn't stand him because he was pitiless and bereft of affection. He pounded Monarchia into the dust on the Emperor's orders, and couldn't imagine Lorgar and the Word Bearers would hold a grudge against him because he was right, they were wrong, and dad told him to do it, so it was fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. Which led to him getting sucker punched in a rather unsubtle attack. Sanguinius' big screw-up was that he was too hopeful, too trusting, and too idealistic. He told Horus his deepest darkest secret; that the Blood Angels had a fundamental flaw that reduced them to ravening madmen, and could only be cured with a bolt round to the head, and Horus used that to manipulate him. Sanguinius could not imagine Horus ever betraying him, so when Horus sent him and the entire legion to Signus, at the far edge of the galaxy, to find a miracle cure for the Red Thirst, it all went tits up in an obvious trap, but he still insisted that it couldn't have been Horus. This left him and his legion badly wounded, and stranded at the far edges of Imperial space for a good chunk of the war. Broken Record Talk fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Aug 11, 2022 |
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Aug 11, 2022 19:09
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Ya, but they're wolves now so Magnus is still a dumbass.
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Aug 11, 2022 19:11
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moths posted:Magnus is a dumbass. Agreed.
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Aug 11, 2022 19:33
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The only flawless primarch is Curze
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What about Dorn and Vulcan? Tangentially, another friend is arguing that UM and IF aren't that different, to the point where there's no real difference in what their archetypical forces would fluffily be.
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Aug 11, 2022 20:53
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Pinwiz11 posted:Hubris. He jumped into Istvann V way too early and paid for it with his life. He let his anger get the better of him, but otherwise didn't do much dumb poo poo. He probably coulda hugged Fulgrim more I guess
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Aug 11, 2022 20:57
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JcDent posted:What about Dorn Pert built a fortress labelled "trap" and said "neener neener can't catch me" and Dorn promptly marched his boys inside. He sounds pretty cool in the HH novels but he clearly gets hit in the head too much or has really crippling ptsd loving his decision making afterwards.
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Aug 11, 2022 21:47
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JcDent posted:What about Dorn and Vulcan? Vulkan let Nick Kyme write the books for his legion. Dorn's big fuckup is that he turned left instead of right in the Vengeful Spirit, and let Sanguinius and Emps get wrecked. He also let Rawbutt talk him into accepting the Codex Astartes, then blundered into the Iron Cage.
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Aug 11, 2022 21:48
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Mango Polo posted:Vagues clues that mk2 will be A Thing eventually. Oh yeah, I was wondering what the deal was with that guy on the vehicle sprue.
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Aug 11, 2022 22:43
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Bobby G's big issue is that he's a giant blue marry sue
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Angron is the only innocent primarch. He had the nails to cause his dumb bullshit, probably would've died if they were removed, and the emperor chose violence every time. I would like to see some GW led warp fuckery/alternate future where Angron didn't get nailed to really bring home the tragedy.Broken Record Talk posted:Vulkan let Nick Kyme write the books for his legion. A fate worse than death. Kyme is so consistently awful. Anything he touches is absolute garbage, it's a impressive talent to get paid to make it instead of the far easier getting bribed to stop ruining things. Dorn didn't blunder in, he went in because his masochistic streak was going hot after dad died.
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Eediot Jedi posted:Angron is the only innocent primarch. He had the nails to cause his dumb bullshit, probably would've died if they were removed, and the emperor chose violence every time. I would like to see some GW led warp fuckery/alternate future where Angron didn't get nailed to really bring home the tragedy. Agreed, although Logar's plan/betrayal just put another layer of suck to Angron's life.
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Aug 11, 2022 23:13
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Eediot Jedi posted:Dorn didn't blunder in, he went in because his masochistic streak was going hot after dad died. Dorn had to get his Legion divided up into chapters at the time and really didn't want to do the paper work for more than like three
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Dorn made the Imperial Fists and Crimson Fists Codex-compliant, then got sick of doing that and told Sigismund to deal with the other 20. Sigismund just said "sure thing" and ran off to kill poo poo before anyone noticed where the rest of the legion had gone.
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So, ive painted up 10 breachers, with a few weapon options, 40 tacticals, 3 termites, one robot with shield and bonk hammer and some HQ options working on 10 havocs with Lascannons, 10 tyrant terminators, 10 magnetised arm cataphactii, waiting for assembly is the AOD box, a krytos a deimos rhino, and i have 5 more bonkhammer robots on the way  
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I really hadn't realized how much of the post 30k setting is Bobby G forcing the rest of the legions to adopt his book and those legions cucking themselves over by doing it Shoulda fought over it, woulda made a more interesting story
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hmm yes more in-fighting after a devastating civil war, very smart and big brained
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ijyt posted:hmm yes more in-fighting after a devastating civil war, very smart and big brained I'm not here for big brained political maneuvering, I'm here for oversized toddlers having tantrums that break planets and sometimes whole empires.
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