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I just run to the nearest bonfire for the fight cause I always lose anyway. Sometimes I just jump off a ledge if they take too long, I hate pvp in souls games
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I like being invaded if the invader isn’t a time wasting dick that wants me to kill myself out of frustration. Just come at me
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I just run to the nearest bonfire for the fight cause I always lose anyway. Sometimes I just jump off a ledge if they take too long, I hate pvp in souls games Man I lose 90% of the time as an invader, it's not like its about k/d ratios or anything
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Aug 11, 2022 17:57
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It's probably biased since the people most interested in PvP are likely to be gud at the game (or use cheese builds), while good players generally don't summon unless playing with friends/use a tongue on purpose so I'd guess that's why it feels like that.
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Aug 11, 2022 17:59
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Tolth posted:Given you described the person as "absolutely ridiculous", a "goober", and a "weirdo" and maintained a condescending tone towards them throughout the whole post, I don't think it's very hard to get a negative read on it. You know, that's a fair enough observation. It was the fact that they were apparently content to repeatedly do the same thing without success that made the whole encounter feel so odd to me in the first place, though! We continued progressing, collecting items, and reaching shortcuts and Graces, interspersed with briefly exciting PvP scuffles that always ended with the invader running out of pots and fleeing to eat defensive consumables (after getting damaged??) and heal up. It was like a Monty Python skit or something, just this exercise in futility that went nowhere forever. We did consider a cannonball run to the boss door, but we had originally intended to leave that for another evening, and by then it was late enough that we ultimately decided to call it a night. So it all amounted to absolutely nothing, which I thought was a funny capstone to the whole affair. I'm sure the Boggart family education fund appreciated it, though 
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Aug 11, 2022 18:04
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I don't even like invading people but it's fun using taunter's tongue in dungeons to get random invasions and being hunted down by the scary red man whilst doing PvE, it's a really novel experience I've not seen in any other game
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No Dignity posted:I don't even like invading people but it's fun using taunter's tongue in dungeons to get random invasions and being hunted down by the scary red man whilst doing PvE, it's a really novel experience I've not seen in any other game I've been meaning to buy the new sniper elite game just because I heard they put in souls style invasions, so at least one other game is finally doing it
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Aug 11, 2022 18:08
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Populon posted:I've been meaning to buy the new sniper elite game just because I heard they put in souls style invasions, so at least one other game is finally doing it Its on gamepass if you have that. But its pretty fun either way. The coop horde mode scratched an itch I didnt realize I had. The only thing odd about it is this weird "nazis" are people too thing it kinda pulls but you can just ignore that and shoot them all in the balls.
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Aug 11, 2022 18:16
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Finally got off my butt after all the problems and played for a bit more. Went up the Atlus Plateau, met Goldmask, met the Dung Eater, got the Great Stars and went to Mt Gelmir since I need to get the item for Boc's quest. I also found a message telling me to follow the rainbow stones! Surely that won't lead to anything bad. Oh, I also finally teleported to Mogh's place... 11000 runes per arrow next to a site of grace  Too bad I'm a terrible shot and waste more than that
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Finally got off my butt after all the problems and played for a bit more. Went up the Atlus Plateau, met Goldmask, met the Dung Eater, got the Great Stars and went to Mt Gelmir since I need to get the item for Boc's quest. I also found a message telling me to follow the rainbow stones! Surely that won't lead to anything bad. Put on the golden scarab and you get 13k and change!
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Populon posted:Man I lose 90% of the time as an invader, it's not like its about k/d ratios or anything yeah but its not fun for me so gently caress it
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Aug 11, 2022 19:01
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I once played hide and seek with an invader in DS3 for an hour and a half before I had to turn the game off and go to bed. Tryhard twink invaders deserve nothing less than walking past you disguised as a box 3 times before getting a disconnect. Gimmick builds mucking about and throwing poo at you for two hours is fun. I guarantee the two of you could have gone full nude fist fight with the invader and they'd probably oblige. But when hosts bundle up in a safe space when they have every advantage in the situation is always just sad. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people get their invasion message and just panic run with their RoB partner to the grace site out in the open and just expect me to walk into a suicidal position. Like, maybe just try a little? Best PvP is in the catacombs with traps. Traps don't discriminate. Everyone thinks they can dance around them juuust right. Edit: also I'm loving this near and far add to the summon pools. I got pulled all the way to mini-Mohg from the final boss hallway. It can be a bit jarring being summoned but not knowing what to expect. War Wizard fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Aug 11, 2022 |
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Finally stumbled across the Rivers of Blood invasion dude, up by the fire giant. I really liked how he not only dodged my Taker’s Flames, he actively punished me for it. So, I did what I did with Alecto - I spammed Waves of Darkness. The AI is smart enough to interpret your initial ground strike as an attack and dodge it, but at least one of the three waves will subsequently catch and stagger them. And that’s all you need to keep using it.
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War Wizard posted:Can't tell you how many times I've seen people get their invasion message and just panic run with their RoB partner to the grace site out in the open and just expect me to walk into a suicidal position. Like, maybe just try a little? This thinking is exactly why the host didn't attack the invader when it was an obvious trap. It does go both ways. As has been said many times in the thread, the way one player plays doesn't have to dictate how others do. Most of the time that's applied to unga bunga vs dex dancer vs sorcery nerd. But also applies to how people react to invasion. Except RoB mains pre nerf. gently caress those people
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Before my ER replay I'm playing thru all the other Souls titles again and the servers still being offline (on PC) is a real drag, especially with DS3. The asymmetrical PVP and coop adds so much to the replay experience. There's been some dev activity on the backend of Steam for DS3 so hopefully that will be back online soon. Invaders add so much variety to replays it's practically a necessity at this point. Plus the great way it was handled diageticaly, like most other mechanics in the series. Evil spirits are coming for you when they get a whiff of your Humanity, to steal that as well as your souls. And players get to be those evil spirits. No multiplayer menu, just a lote integrated version of sandbox PVP. Brilliant. Speaking of diagetics, something I wish they would have revamped here in Elden Ring is the fog doors. The only game they had an explanation in was Demon's Souls, andd on top of that it wasn't always a guarantee that there was going to be a boss behind it. So there was always a bit of tension when deciding to pass through one on your first playthrough. It became kind of a vestigial element in the Dark Souls games, but at least "Souls" as a story concept kind of made sense for it. In Elden Ring they're still there, but now just colored gold. Haha. I do love ER but my biggest critique of it is definitely the reuse of concepts from previous games that we've seen so many times now, especially in cases like that where there really isn't any kind of reasonable explanation.
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ZeusCannon posted:This thinking is exactly why the host didn't attack the invader when it was an obvious trap. It does go both ways. What? No, they continued to go elsewhere and collect stuff and open shortcuts like they said. Hosts not chasing an invader down and continuing is different then hosts refusing to advance at all until the invader shows themselves and dies to their obvious advantage. Hell, I'd accept hosts playing hide and seek over just waiting at the dungeon start with their gank squad. Actually, on one occasion the host was so terrified of the invasion they didn't advance at all for so long the co-op buddy just left from boredom. They could have came at me 2v1 but instead chose to be bored and still died. 
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The fog is gamer stink from bottlenecking and repeated dying in the boss area
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"Hahaha how funny Patches, too bad I can just teleport out! But I'll explore a bit since I'm here... huh, weird poison time to heal- what do you mean Flame Cleanse Me doesn't heal it? What do you mean it's insta-death!? WHAT DO YOU MEAN I DIE IF I GO BACK DOWN!!?" You win this time, Patches, but I want your ability to throw down without taking fall damage. Also I think I got lost, went from the First Campfire to the Ninth one and found a boss who I did no damage. I think this might not be the way to the hidden village...
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Was it a rodeo bug? Then no. Patches was just trying to help out by putting you on the proper path. Probably.
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Dyz posted:The fact that you think that anecdote was whining says a lot. yeah, it says i have two working eyes and basic literacy skills
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War Wizard posted:I once played hide and seek with an invader in DS3 for an hour and a half before I had to turn the game off and go to bed. Tryhard twink invaders deserve nothing less than walking past you disguised as a box 3 times before getting a disconnect. Gimmick builds mucking about and throwing poo at you for two hours is fun. I guarantee the two of you could have gone full nude fist fight with the invader and they'd probably oblige. But when hosts bundle up in a safe space when they have every advantage in the situation is always just sad. I broke an invasion in DS1 because they invaded in the Undead Burg looking for some new player to gank and I was practicing speed running tricks. Turns out if you're invaded in the upper burg and you roll off ledges and balconies to get to the lower burg, nothing in the lower burg spawns including the Capra Demon and their fog gate. So I was locked into an area I couldn't get out of while the invader who saw me jump off a ledge was running around the upper burg trying to find me.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:yeah, it says i have two working eyes and basic literacy skills have you considered dating, loving, or exercising to help deal with the excess of energy you bring to the pursuit of buttmad proclamations about the correct way to play video games and the correct way to interpret how other people play video games?
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SlimGoodbody posted:have you considered dating, loving, or exercising to help deal with the excess of energy you bring to the pursuit of buttmad proclamations about the correct way to play video games and the correct way to interpret how other people play video games? this post is weirder and more inappropriate than anything i've said in this thread. have you considered a little introspection as to why you're so threatened by someone talking about a game and how its social dynamics work?
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madness, O madness
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i think d/cing at the end is pretty lame when you could just go over and fight the guy with no real consequence, it's not like if you die in the game you die in real life. doesn't sound like you were far away from a checkpoint or anything like that. also playing cautiously is just how you approach a 2v1 scenario lol. you're talking poo poo about him trying to bait you into a disadvantaged scenario instead of letting himself get baited into a disadvantaged scenario.
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Augus posted:i think d/cing at the end is pretty lame when you could just go over and fight the guy with no real consequence, it's not like if you die in the game you die in real life. doesn't sound like you were far away from a checkpoint or anything like that. Never underestimate spite as a motivator
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thank u miyazaki for the blessing of invasions to enable all the hilarious Discourse that comes with it
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Fereydun posted:thank u miyazaki for the blessing of invasions to enable all the hilarious Discourse that comes with it I feel like Vyke discovering the Frenzied Flame 
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Invasions are cool but what Elden Ring really needs is weapon durability.
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The Anime Liker posted:Invasions are cool but what Elden Ring really needs is weapon durability. Would breath of the wild be a better game if it had invasions?
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The Anime Liker posted:Invasions are cool but what Elden Ring really needs is weapon durability. Mods !?!
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causticBeet posted:Would breath of the wild be a better game if it had invasions? After careful consideration: yes
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Why argue about the right attitude to play Elden Ring with, when you could just be playing Elden Ring instead?
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Does everyone already know about Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike because woah...I know people like pest threads for EB but this poo poo was doing like 1/4-1/3 of EB's bar each cast and I'm not even optimized for lightning.
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Angry Diplomat posted:and that's the story of how some weirdo put Boggart's kids through college only to get blueballed with a disconnect. I've done a lot of invading and being invaded across all these games. I had a long run where I'd be an uncreative and really annoying dick at That Spot With The Anor Londo Archers in DS1, loading in with a Black Iron Greatshield and standing on the ledges. You'd get a lot of interesting interactions that way, honestly. Some people run at you and hope they can beat you down (you push them off), some try to throw firebombs or hit you with poison arrows (poison's a good idea because it gets through the shield but I had plenty of moss.) A few times I ran into hackers who had infinite HP (the Dragonslayer Greatbow and gravity solved those problems.) The scariest people were the ones with katanas because bleed builds up through shields and that could actually kill me if I didn't shove at the right time. There was also a lot of sitting around and waiting. Now, obviously, I was blocking a critical path they couldn't walk around, so it's a bit different than the open areas in Elden Ring, but honestly someone disconnecting on me after I hassled them for 45 minutes or an hour or more was a win in my book. This is all to say: while a shrimp-munching invader was being a bit gunshy, I'm sure she had a fun and distinctive experience, too, so I think everyone won in that encounter. Running around nipping at someone's heels is fun, and probably more interesting than most Elden Ring encounters where 2 or 3 guys run in on you and cave in your skull in sub 30 seconds followed by a minute of teabagging your fading corpse. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:this post is weirder and more inappropriate than anything i've said in this thread. have you considered a little introspection as to why you're so threatened by someone talking about a game and how its social dynamics work?
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