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No matter how mild the criticism, there's always someone who feels the need to defend GGG lol
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Aug 12, 2022 22:15
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it's the opposite, if i was ggg i would lie to the playerbase way more and would tell people way less concrete info. imo let people figure out stuff based off of how it feels. i'm saying the suggestion that ggg actively shies away from telling the playerbase about nerfs is just not founded in anything at all. yeah they said that was a lesson that they learned after 3.15. no i don't believe that that was a lesson that they actually significantly internalized. just look at balance manifesto compared to the sum of changes for this league: they dumped 500 apparent minion nerfs on people then a week later it finally starts to come out that actually you can now roll super strong minion affixes on several more slots than you previously could. like 50% of the people doing balance and systems design at ggg clearly delight publicly in nerfing stuff
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Aug 12, 2022 22:25
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How does mark on hit support work? I haven't used marks since they redesigned them. Mainly wondering A: does it reliably hit the strongest enemy around or will it hit random dudes? And B: how does the mana cost work? Is it just a one-time payment when it triggers? Does it trigger every attack or expire on an enemy before it reapplies?
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Aug 12, 2022 22:32
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ubachung posted:No matter how mild the criticism, there's always someone who feels the need to defend GGG lol I could be using regals if it wasn't for the meddling GGG defenders
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Aug 12, 2022 22:35
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Insurrectionist posted:How does mark on hit support work? I haven't used marks since they redesigned them. Mainly wondering A: does it reliably hit the strongest enemy around or will it hit random dudes? And B: how does the mana cost work? Is it just a one-time payment when it triggers? Does it trigger every attack or expire on an enemy before it reapplies? it triggers the mark on any valid target you hit with any attack, which does not need to be linked to mark on hit. marks last forever unless the marked target dies, or if you recast it on another valid target. you can only mark rares and uniques. it only costs mana when cast because manually casting a mark on a normal/blue just doesn't do anything, kind of like raise zombie/spectre without a corpse. sadly, it totally does constantly trigger, you need decent mana. otoh, since it only triggers after an attack, it usually doesn't eat mana for your attacks unless you have suck regen
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Aug 12, 2022 22:36
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If I was the Game Director at GGG I would simply put “adjusted game balance” at every patch notes and just leave at it
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Aug 12, 2022 22:37
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turning a big dial taht says "Balance" on it and constantly looking back at the players for approval like a contestant on the price is right
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Aug 12, 2022 22:41
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Herstory Begins Now posted:
I think they’ve figured out that the people most likely to erupt on Reddit are also probably the least likely to quit because of nerfs. If you’re spending time comprehending game balance changes in patch notes on a level to understand how that will impact your actual play experience, you’re already hopelessly addicted like the rest of us Those most likely to quit are probably not even looped in enough to know lol
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Aug 12, 2022 22:56
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I just want to make builds without having to care about how much currency will I need for even the most bare proof of concept.
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Aug 12, 2022 23:12
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whydirt posted:turning a big dial taht says "Balance" on it and constantly looking back at the players for approval like a contestant on the price is right. Behind the scenes a hundred, cracked up, chimps are pre-making GBS threads in their hands ready to go as soon as the dial moves. qnqnx posted:I just want to make builds without having to care about how much currency will I need for even the most bare proof of concept. ... who said you can't? you make a budget build that doesn't rely on attaining as much dps as possible with perfect clusters/watcher eyes/very rare uniques EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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Aug 12, 2022 23:56
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EVIL Gibson posted:... who said you can't? 
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Aug 13, 2022 00:01
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EVIL Gibson posted:... who said you can't? There are skills beyond whatever is currently meta, you know. I admit, I gotta have mentioned that first. qnqnx fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Aug 13, 2022 00:03
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qnqnx posted:There are skills beyond whatever is currently meta, you know. I get you want to build your new build beyond the metaverse . Why do you need currency to even build it? Crafting, getting stuff on trade, just buying the gems from vendors?
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Aug 13, 2022 00:11
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whydirt posted:turning a big dial taht says "Balance" on it and constantly looking back at the players for approval like a contestant on the price is right honestly game balance done right will basically do this. there's always going to be background noise of people who either love/hate stuff unconditionally, but when stuff largely feels pretty balanced people are too busy playing to yell as much Traitorous Leopard posted:I think they’ve figured out that the people most likely to erupt on Reddit are also probably the least likely to quit because of nerfs. If you’re spending time comprehending game balance changes in patch notes on a level to understand how that will impact your actual play experience, you’re already hopelessly addicted like the rest of us the less knowledgeable players quitting over the backlash is probably the one big risk of letting a big backlash happen. I like to give ggg poo poo for all kinds of stuff, particularly how they handled hyping a few of their leagues, but man they could announce the introduction of a new belt that gives you rare monster's modifiers for most of a minute and half of the angry reddit people would yell that it's alch shard trash until they're blue in the face without having the first clue what it actually does. lightly conspiratorial, but imo they probably had a decent idea that the manifesto would get a big backlash and that the patch notes and unique reworks would get most people back on board because there's a bunch of good poo poo in there and stuff you can absolutely make a league starter around Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Aug 13, 2022 00:13
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https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1558232874482290688 see, theyre listening, theyre making leveling better
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Aug 13, 2022 00:26
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Herstory Begins Now posted:the less knowledgeable players quitting over the backlash is probably the one big risk of letting a big backlash happen. This is definitely a thing. A few leagues back some Reddit addict in a Discord I was in quit in white maps because the subreddit convinced him it was impossible to make currency in the League because Russian bot traders fully controlled the economy and he was convinced to not bother continuing to play. It was completely nonsensical and he couldn’t explain how these currency traders impacted his drops, but he was dead set that the game was unplayable based on the Reddit screaming.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:27
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Herstory Begins Now posted:angry reddit people would yell that it's alch shard trash until they're blue in the face without having the first clue what it actually does. lol  get ur own jokes u nerd shitposting aside Aerox posted:This is definitely a thing. A few leagues back some Reddit addict in a Discord I was in quit in white maps because the subreddit convinced him it was impossible to make currency in the League because Russian bot traders fully controlled the economy and he was convinced to not bother continuing to play.  that sucks and is such a shame
Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Aug 13, 2022 00:33
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Dahbadu posted:I know I'm a little late to the party, but here are my two cents on the manifesto: Cool and all, but that’s a LOT more than two cents 🤣
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Aug 13, 2022 00:34
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my favorite reply to this reveal:
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Aug 13, 2022 00:34
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Elentor posted:Cloak of Flames, Mokou and Tasalio means 200% Fire Resistance, Immunity to the Ignite side-effect from the ring and 60% Phys Damage taken as Fire as early as level 18. 75% at level 20ish with a good Lethal Pride that will probably be impossible to find now, or have Hotheaded for a 55%-60% +attack/cast speed plus 20% movement speed which is insane at still level 18. Make Molten Strike great again
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Aug 13, 2022 00:36
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:It's just a really unfortunate lack of, I guess QoL modernization? Of systems in Heist compared to...older systems. Like Delve, if I want to jump into the mine, here's what I do: Yes, this is pretty much one of the main reasons I hate heist. If I could jump into one straight from my hideout without an intermediate loading screen and having to wander around a different hub I’d probably do it far more often.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:37
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frankly i'm doing exactly zero heist either way
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Aug 13, 2022 00:41
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Aye Doc posted:https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1558232874482290688 I wonder if this is the creations that one of the winners of the last contest made. Also, the new unique with the soul shenanigans which ZiggyD made, are we supposed to know what the actual effect does ? If that mechanic was from another unique then I didn't recognize it.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:45
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good leveling helm, but that places it in a bit of an awkward spot since they've also nerfed unique drop rates.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:45
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EVIL Gibson posted:Also, the new unique with the soul shenanigans which ZiggyD made, are we supposed to know what the actual effect does ? If that mechanic was from another unique then I didn't recognize it. You mean the Zizaran unique with Soul Eater? https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Soul_Eater
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Aug 13, 2022 00:48
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I am grateful to the heist haters for keeping the chillest, boss free-est mechanic one of the most lucrative
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Aug 13, 2022 00:50
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EVIL Gibson posted:I wonder if this is the creations that one of the winners of the last contest made. All of the contest creation uniques will drop from Uber uber bosses, so this is definitely not going to be one of them. I think they said only Zizaran's one is getting released this patch since the others haven't been completed yet (something about the streamers not being timely enough at following up with the devs). That is why for this patch the boss race will have a different prize, because of the unique backlog.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:51
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Cinara posted:You mean the Zizaran unique with Soul Eater? He also discusses it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_JEXSOlw1w tl;dr - he intends for it to be for boss-killers or a gear swap for general characters, doesn't know how it interacts with other sources of Soul Eater that drop off instantly (I'm gonna guess those other sources set soul count to zero when they expire so they'd overwrite these gloves' gradual drop-off mod), would be rather nuts with Anomalous Kinetic Bolt.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:54
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FZeroRacer posted:can you make me a budget cleave build that can clear most content seems like it might be pretty good with the buff it got appreciate it https://pastebin.com/HYu0sNXn Best I can come up with at short notice, but it should get you through everything thats doesn't have Uber in its name. Mana can become a problem when you get everything online + the 6L, so get some Elreon crafts asap and you're golden.
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Aug 13, 2022 00:57
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Zmej posted:my favorite reply to this reveal: 
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Aug 13, 2022 01:03
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Cinara posted:You mean the Zizaran unique with Soul Eater? Maybe you need to gain Soul Eater from one of those few items in the page you posted? edit: thanks for the video with Ziz explaining it. EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Aug 13, 2022 01:07
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No, the gloves give you the ability
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Aug 13, 2022 01:08
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No the whole point of the item is it gives you the buff stacks that Soul Eater would normally give on kill, without granting you the Soul Eater effect.
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Aug 13, 2022 01:09
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 Lol E. If I cared about standard I would probably be mad that all my I've hoarded are now worth much less at a whim.
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Aug 13, 2022 01:11
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Ruggan posted:Yes, this is pretty much one of the main reasons I hate heist. If I could jump into one straight from my hideout without an intermediate loading screen and having to wander around a different hub I’d probably do it far more often. And without waiting for doors to open every few seconds during the heist themselves.
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Aug 13, 2022 01:27
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realizing I couldn't trade easily if I was going hard on heist made me dislike it even more not an issue if you don't sell a lot of poo poo I guess
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Aug 13, 2022 01:32
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Wuxi posted:https://pastebin.com/HYu0sNXn * you could drop melee phys and replace it with rage for more DPS and better overall feel at max rage, and this also opens up Berserk for far more dps during boss fights * drop the fortify node (if you're pure melee like this build you can have perma fortify through the mastery) and get Adrenaline. there are multiple ways to trigger Adrenaline and it's a massive DPS boost * you can dump the mark nodes and a few others to invest in impale nodes instead, letting you drop impale support in favor of lifetap which solves your mana issues. but ultimately the greater problem is that melee builds like these tend to have a lot of plates spinning that can't maintain that full DPS when in an actual fight (such as keeping up ancestral totems esp vaal totems, maintaining blood rage and juggling berserk) so the actual DPS is far lower in a real situation. this is before including the melee tax into the equation, which is why cleave ends up a lot worse in play. in comparison to something like your typical ignite build which can hit the upper end of DPS as this build while not needing to actually keep swinging. and that's why +2 aoe radius sucks as a buff for what should be a cool and good skill.
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Aug 13, 2022 01:34
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these tweets on every unique they post is so annoying and bad goddamn
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Aug 13, 2022 02:02
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FZeroRacer posted:good leveling helm, but that places it in a bit of an awkward spot since they've also nerfed unique drop rates. Yeah it would be good in this patch but compared to the buffed ones it's now a piece of poo poo lol. Maybe if it has some way to trigger Onslaught effect or something idk
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Aug 13, 2022 03:12
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Brian Tamaki, known God botherer, has been riling up his fanbase recently and there are constant annoying protests everywhere in New Zealand. No wonder GGG hates divines.
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Aug 13, 2022 03:14
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