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The bald fraud is not blameless, both games this season he's had to radically change the system in the second half after starting the game with a terrible plan. Playing Eriksen as some kind of CDM in the first half against Brentford for a glaring example.
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Flayer posted:The bald fraud is not blameless, both games this season he's had to radically change the system in the second half after starting the game with a terrible plan. Playing Eriksen as some kind of CDM in the first half against Brentford for a glaring example. It's almost as if there's a gaping hole there he's been begging the board to plug
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Aug 14, 2022 07:18
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Heard Haaling was dog poo poo can anyone confirm
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Aug 14, 2022 07:41
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Hegay posted:Heard Haaling was dog poo poo can anyone confirm
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Aug 14, 2022 08:32
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The Villa-Everton was really good if you can believe it. Good goals and sick saves.
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Aug 14, 2022 09:29
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Erling had an excellent assist and tiny little Phil Foden should have passed to him for an easy goal after 9 mins. Still on track for a goal a game.
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Aug 14, 2022 09:34
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Flayer posted:8 ball touches in 73 minutes. The other players refused to pass to him because he's too big and strong and they are jealous. Lukaku had this problem too.
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Aug 14, 2022 10:35
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Has there ever been a situation like this at a top club where an entire squad of players just needs replacing? Not one or two miscreants, or even replacing half the starting xi. It really feels like Man U need to ditch the entire squad and start again, barring new signings to give them a chance obviously. Also I hope this means I don't have to see Scott McTominay start every game for Scotland because he plays for man united, aka Darren Fletcher syndrome.
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Aug 14, 2022 11:34
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Man Utd don't need to scrap the squad. They need to eject David De Gea and Ronaldo. They had a competent replacement for De Gea but scared him away. They need a striker and they need two trustworthy central midfielders.
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Aug 14, 2022 11:38
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Her Dryer posted:Has there ever been a situation like this at a top club where an entire squad of players just needs replacing? Not one or two miscreants, or even replacing half the starting xi. It really feels like Man U need to ditch the entire squad and start again, barring new signings to give them a chance obviously. The closest I can think of, and that wasn't no where near as dire, was the Madrid rebuild in 08/09
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Aug 14, 2022 11:40
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TheRat posted:Man Utd don't need to scrap the squad. They need to eject David De Gea and Ronaldo. They had a competent replacement for De Gea but scared him away. They need a striker and they need two trustworthy central midfielders. They need to get rid of way more. Maguire should be shot into the sun, this is no meme, he is honestly loving dire. Get rid of mid table poo poo like Fred, AWB and McTominay. The squad is honestly barely top 8 worthy
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Aug 14, 2022 11:42
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Maguire is more than good enough to not be a replacement priority in any way shape or form.
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Aug 14, 2022 11:44
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TheRat posted:Man Utd don't need to scrap the squad. They need to eject David De Gea and Ronaldo. They had a competent replacement for De Gea but scared him away. They need a striker and they need two trustworthy central midfielders. I think it's more than just a lack of quality that's the problem, although to be clear I think there is an obvious lack of quality in the squad. I think it's a team of losers now. They get clowned on so much it's not a big deal anymore, and no manager has been able to fix that mentality.
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Aug 14, 2022 11:46
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TheRat posted:Maguire is more than good enough to not be a replacement priority in any way shape or form. like whu 
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Aug 14, 2022 11:48
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You can have the best laid plan in the world, but that doesn't count for much when you get punched in the face. Everyone is scared shitless playing in front of De Gea and him gifting Brentford two goals in 15 minutes or whatever means everyone is completely rattled, have zero confidence or have given up. Most PL keepers would also have claimed the ball before the third goal happened. Most modern keepers would have prevented 1-0 Brighton by sweeping, and most sunday league keepers wouldn't have spilled the ball like that for 2-0 Brighton. Without a keeper you can trust and a central midfield you can count on, it doesn't matter if you have Franco loving Baresi leading your central defense.
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Aug 14, 2022 11:51
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TheRat posted:Maguire is more than good enough to not be a replacement priority in any way shape or form. he's poo poo mate
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vyelkin posted:he's poo poo mate He was Man Utd's best player for two years running and on Euro 2020 team of the tournament. He might have his moments but he's not a problem that needs solving.
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Aug 14, 2022 11:54
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TheRat posted:You can have the best laid plan in the world, but that doesn't count for much when you get punched in the face. Everyone is scared shitless playing in front of De Gea and him gifting Brentford two goals in 15 minutes or whatever means everyone is completely rattled, have zero confidence or have given up. Most PL keepers would also have claimed the ball before the third goal happened. Most modern keepers would have prevented 1-0 Brighton by sweeping, and most sunday league keepers wouldn't have spilled the ball like that for 2-0 Brighton. all of this is true but once they fix all that if they still have Maguire he's still going to suck so why not replace him at the same time
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TheRat posted:He was Man Utd's best player for two years running and on Euro 2020 team of the tournament. He might have his moments but he's not a problem that needs solving. He's fine for a team playing on the counter like early Ole United, or in a three with someone who can run for him like for England. He's loving rancid playing a high line in a two, turns like an oil tanker and runs like he's got another oil tanker in each boot. Although having poo poo behind him and in front of him doesn't help either. Honestly it's difficult to see a position that's *not* a problem in need of solving. De Gea is finished at the top level, central defence is porous, full backs can't attack or defend, central midfield might as well not exist, Fernandes is bang out of form and has a horrible attitude, Rashford has gone full Walcott, Sancho apparently left his boots in Dortmund, Ronaldo wants out and is a billion years old and a oval office. Backups are all somehow worse.
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sebzilla posted:He's fine for a team playing on the counter like early Ole United, or in a three with someone who can run for him like for England. He was fine with a turbohigh line with Henderson behind him too. The problem now is that everyone is scared shitless and trying to compensate for eachother which means nobody is where they need to be or doing their actual jobs. E: See what I said earlier about trust. The team has zero trust. You need to be able to rely on your team mates to do their jobs.
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And none of them trust Maguire because he's poo poo
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TheRat posted:He was Man Utd's best player for two years running and on Euro 2020 team of the tournament. He might have his moments but he's not a problem that needs solving. M9 I know the pandemic has been tough us all but you know it's not 2020 anymore right?
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CyberPingu posted:M9 I know the pandemic has been tough us all but you know it's not 2020 anymore right? He was great for England a year ago, he was statistically speaking Man Utd's best defender last season (heh) and he was great in pre-season. Maguire just isn't the problem no matter how much you want it to be.
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TheRat posted:He was great for England a year ago, he was statistically speaking Man Utd's best defender last season (heh) and he was great in pre-season. Maguire just isn't the problem no matter how much you want it to be. He was Utds best defender last season? Buddy, the only thing lower than this is the moderation standards for SA
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I don't think on paper Maguire necessarily is first on the chopping block, but ultimately as captain and in many ways the face of this era of United I think he would need to be gone in a rebuild just so the squad would feel like a fresh start. He represents too much baggage even if his performance isn't the worst in the united side.
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TheRat posted:he was great in pre-season. Placing all my money on Man Utd 4-0 Liverpool next week, thank you.
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TheRat posted:He was great for England a year ago, he was statistically speaking Man Utd's best defender last season (heh) and he was great in pre-season. Maguire just isn't the problem no matter how much you want it to be. Maguire also dropped a clanger in pre-season where he was caught out of position. Who gives a gently caress how good he is for England, he's got at least one if not two competent DMs helping him out, plays deeper, and/or is in a back three which lets him pretend he's Beckenbauer. Maguire is incredibly limited, he can't read the game unless it's all happening in front of him and his idea of marshalling a defence is to just point at the space he should be in while he goes chasing the ball like a dog in a park. He's supposed to be the right sided CB now but is always in Martinez's space. He's not the only problem but he's a big one.
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CyberPingu posted:He was Utds best defender last season? Yes, he was. Varane was garbage almost every time he stepped on the field. Bailly is pure chaos and a walking sicknote. Lindelof was better than those two but worse than Maguire and Shaw/Telles/AWB looked like they'd never heard of the concept of defending.
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I sometimes forget Utd spent £50m on AWB lol
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I earnestly hope that Utd continue to play Maguire at captain every single game so he can yell at his defense for his gently caress ups.
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maguire isn't good, but he's still only maybe the 4th biggest issue in that squad
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Maguire is a bad defender, he's slow, he has the turning radius of the Ever Given, he's the team captain despite his idea of leadership being to yell at other people after his team concedes a goal because he was in the wrong place, and he constantly mistimes challenges and gives away careless fouls in dangerous positions if he's your best defender that really is a case for selling literally the entire first team and starting over from scratch
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Doing bigly lols at Maguire body slamming Shaw then yelling at him
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*me, watching Maguire dribble in circles against Chelsea, giving the ball to Matic then taking it off him again before hoofing the ball to a Chelsea player* Phwoar, best defender this season right there
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Still think that there's a quality player in Maguire and will happily die on that hill. Just give him a weekend with bielsa or something to teach him how to press and take the armband off him
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the sex ghost posted:Still think that there's a quality player in Maguire and will happily die on that hill. Just give him a weekend with bielsa or something to teach him how to press and take the armband off him Bielsa can't give him pace he hasn't got.
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the sex ghost posted:Still think that there's a quality player in Maguire and will happily die on that hill. So that's what's hiding in the massive forehead.
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the sex ghost posted:Still think that there's a quality player in Maguire and will happily die on that hill. Just give him a weekend with bielsa or something to teach him how to press and take the armband off him there's a quality player trying to get out of Maguire in the same way that there was a goddess of wisdom trying to get out of Zeus
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Tremendous formation by Nottingham Forrest btw.
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Idk it just feels like with Maguire and wan bissaka there's an understanding that these players are being signed for the player they could become and then there's a lot of head scratching when they don't just magically become good by virtue of putting on a man united shirt. Part of a wider moan I have about managers not actually managing or trying to improve players any more and just moaning that they can't possibly be expected to do anything with these young international players, better sign rabiot instead.
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