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Persona 5 is the most understandable Japanese media of all time to me because Makoto the student council president who has the best grades in school is correctly considered a loser outcast by the other kids instead of extremely popular.
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But getting perfect scores on the exam helps Joker become more popular with the Shujin students...
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Jul 30, 2022 04:03
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:But getting perfect scores on the exam helps Joker become more popular with the Shujin students...
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Jul 30, 2022 04:38
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:But getting perfect scores on the exam helps Joker become more popular with the Shujin students... Popularity leads to intimacy
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Jul 30, 2022 04:43
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Joker becomes popular because the kid who sits behind him told everyone that Joker has a cat that he talks to throughout the exams and then somehow gets top score. Everyone just wants to meet that cat.
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Jul 30, 2022 05:57
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That reminds me, it always bothered me how in P3 answering correctly in class raised your charm but they changed it to raising your knowledge in subsequent games. That makes no sense! You aren't acquiring new knowledge, you're showcasing knowledge you already had!
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Jul 30, 2022 09:56
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Petiso posted:That reminds me, it always bothered me how in P3 answering correctly in class raised your charm but they changed it to raising your knowledge in subsequent games. If you answer incorrectly then you didn't have the knowledge, if you answer correctly then you did. Therefore Joker's true Knowledge stat exists in a quantum superposition until he answers a question and collapses the waveform.
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Jul 30, 2022 10:02
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Petiso posted:That reminds me, it always bothered me how in P3 answering correctly in class raised your charm but they changed it to raising your knowledge in subsequent games. positive reinforcement
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Jul 30, 2022 10:10
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Neeksy posted:Well, if you're going to bring up stupid examples of that, yeah. The nakama example is particularly funny though because by leaving it untranslated a whole generation of one piece fans thought it meant something more than just friends or crew, until Oda explicitly was like "what? No guys it doesn't mean anything special what the heck" I think the san suffix is easy enough yeah, and we can just obviously sub in bruh for some of the other ones 
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Jul 30, 2022 17:16
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July 30: https://s1.webmshare.com/1ymAa.webm Merciless is a real meatgrinder lol... I am using so many consumables that I am worried I will hard lock by running out of revives and SP restoring items
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Neeksy posted:Something like senpai is harder because we just don't really do upperclassman/lowerclassman stuff, and honorifics have both linguistic and cultural function. Of course not -all- honorifics aren't translatable, but there are a few that just can't make the jump. "san" is pretty easy to just change to Mr. or Ms. you can translate it this way but the terms aren't equivilent in their usage. an obvious example is the honorific "Master" as applied to a child - in English this typically appears solely in formally written letters, and in fiction written with a "historic" elevated type of language (e.g. a butler saying it to a child) - it might be functionally similar to the -kun suffix (in the context of addressing a child) but translating it this way has obvious issues when it comes to tone, unless you want your game to sound like it's Alfred addressing a young Bruce Wayne or something. there are reams of debates and papers with "post-colonial" in the title on what kinds of translations constitute the commonly-used phrase "bringing the reader to the text" and what just constitutes exoticization, but i think it's generally considered laudable to at least try to get aspects of the source text and language across in a translation - in this case, that Japanese uses a lot of honorifics in contexts that English really doesn't. i can't speak to the specific rationale that the translators made, but given that Persona (and Yakuza) are life-simulator games where immersion in everyday city life is a big part of the appeal, it'd be a reasonable choice to consider cultural immersion as an emphasis in the translation (on the other side, if an instruction screen for a platformer called the main character "Gex-kun" or some poo poo, we probably wouldn't care about that). it's a lot more complicated than "is there an equivilent term", is what i'm saying lol. also sorry for the derail.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:you can translate it this way but the terms aren't equivilent in their usage. an obvious example is the honorific "Master" as applied to a child - in English this typically appears solely in formally written letters, and in fiction written with a "historic" elevated type of language (e.g. a butler saying it to a child) - it might be functionally similar to the -kun suffix (in the context of addressing a child) but translating it this way has obvious issues when it comes to tone, unless you want your game to sound like it's Alfred addressing a young Bruce Wayne or something. I don't disagree with any of what you're saying here, I think that falls under what what I was proposing generally, I just happened to use "san" here as one of the easiest ones to find situations that are similar to English.
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apropos of nothing a lot of people might find it interesting that a relatively well-cited paper on translation studies from 1999 approvingly spoke of anime fansubbing conventions near the end of it https://academic.csuohio.edu/kneuendorf/frames/subtitling/Nornes.1999.pdf (the term "abusive" here refers to an influential translation studies paper called "Abusive Translation" and refers to formal experimentation rather than anything pejorative)
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Felt semi-relevant to the topic at hand. https://twitter.com/JeremyTiang/status/1553993081241862146
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hmmm... i played p2isp with like 99% og soundtrack but im wondering if i should play epp with the remixed tracks..... i know u can switch em up in game but, they both seem cool
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what the..... i was chillin and reading some p2 stuff and apparently IS is Maybe, Vaguely supposed to take place from oct/nov 98 to aug 99??? thats, dumb imo the pacing doesn't support it taking place over that long its like 2 months in summer 99 ending in aug, tops
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Aug 3, 2022 08:36
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August 4 update:   I have used over 2000 consumable items at this point I think lol I need to pick up some "Sapporo" beer for the next leg
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I decided to load up Persona 4 again and its very funny that literally every party member is gay as heck. Edit: Couldn't stop thinking about this dumb thing Nanako posted:EVERY EVENING MY DAD DOESN'T COME HOME AND I OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS THE JUNES COMMERCIAL AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START SINGING THE JINGLE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, JUNES. I SING EVERY WORD AND I SING EVERY WORD HARD. MAKIN LITTLE ARM WAVES WHEN I HIT ALL THE NOTES OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ADVERTISED INABA'S MOST DANGEROUS MALL. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE WORDS AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY HOUSE LESS LONELY BY SINGING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY EVENIng 
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Pwnstar posted:I decided to load up Persona 4 again and its very funny that literally every party member is gay as heck. Rise is the IT squad's token straight and I appreciated the dumb Nanako thing.
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Pwnstar posted:I decided to load up Persona 4 again and its very funny that literally every party member is gay as heck. I wholeheartedly support Chie/Yukiko because it seemed very obvious to me and also because it means I feel less guilty when I inevitably have to break Yukiko's heart in some runs. (She's my favorite IT lady but I wanna try new things)
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Yukiko will die alone and unloved in her failing in
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Significant progress has been made:    Also I beat the third boss I guess
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Haru, what 
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Haru, what It's just a piece of paper with this url on it
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The Phantom Thieves will not arrive in Okinawa until August 17, so in the meantime:    This was built from The official Leblanc curry recipe, the gimmick being a teaspoon of instant coffee (you can't really taste it, but it is a nice flourish that kinda deepens things overall). I had some beef and also chicken wings I wanted to use up, so those went in. Carrot and potatoes are mentioned specifically in the cutscene. The store didn't have regular eggplant, let alone Kamo-Nasu (though I read they are grown in my state), so I substituted daikon.  The curry in the games always looks like it has been long-simmered, so I went about two hours. The chicken fell off the bone (make sure to fish those out lol), the potato basically completely melts away giving it a creamy smooth texture, and the carrot and beef remain as pillowy little morsels. I am not at Joker's "move diners to tears" level but it's good
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Holy poo poo that curry looks amazing as hell. Is the left side just curry, or is there rice under it too? It seems like pure, thick, curry, which really makes it look delicious.
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That's all curry, ya
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IIRC the usual recommended strategy for that fight is to turn the difficulty up to Merciless or whatever because weak point and Baton Pass damage is amped up on that difficulty which actually makes the chaff robots easier to one-shot.
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i remember that tip now - was this an issue with the base game? surprised they didn't adjust the fight since it's so annoying and they did a fair bit of rejiggering of the fights otherwise
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No it was not. That is specifically an issue with the Royal version of the boss fight.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I have used over 2000 consumable items at this point I think lol You're buying quite a bit!
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shrike82 posted:i'm replaying P5R and forgot how annoying the okumura bossfight is with needing to have a party that hits all the various robot vulnerabilities and having to restart a wave if you don't get all of them People will say turn it up to Merciless but I beat it on Normal just fine by using consumable element items with the party members that don't have the weakness element and a max Baton Pass, Power Charge Tarukaja'd MC with an aoe physical move 
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You have so many nights in Royal where the best way to spend your time is to make molotov cocktails or whatever, party composition should absolutely not be a factor in that fight.
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Sure. But if you didn't know about the mechanic beforehand it's loving annoying thinking about all the ways you could have spent your time prepping for it in ways the game never pushed as significant until that fight.
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shrike82 posted:i remember that tip now - was this an issue with the base game? No. They basically rewrote the entire Okumura Palace (it used to be the most tedious in the game with a pretty weak final boss). The new version is incredibly thematic in what you should do and it only took me two attempts because I lost to the self destruct the first time - but then I'd been gleefully baton passing my way through the entire palace. It's Haru and Morgana's palace so of course you need those two in your party for the final boss. And the robots are, well, robots - and every single one of them that isn't weak to either Haru's Psi or Morgana's Wind is weak to either nuke or electric. Hand out the relevant elemental attack anciliaries, set to Merciless, and it's easy with big damage buffs and sweeps.
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August 20 update:     I have tonkotsu concentrate on hand and while I normally mix it with miso or soy sauce, to get the color balance Yusuke mentions I let it stand mostly on its own as a concentrated salt bomb. I could not get red ginger so I soaked some sushi ginger in plum vinegar to push it in that direction. Some other substitutions with the other ingredients too lol but it's in the ballpark without me driving out to the Asian grocer. I should get a specialized ramen bowl like the one you get as a souvenir in this cutscene lol, it would allow me to plate things better so the noodles and broth are on better display
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Strikers is right up there with Pikmin 3 as one of the hungriest games I’ve ever played, all of the food sounds so good, and your recreation looks tasty as hell
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:August 20 update: Out of curiosity, which brand of concentrate and would you recommend? Also, looks great as always!
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Last Celebration posted:Out of curiosity, which brand of concentrate and would you recommend? Thanks! I got recommended this brand of concentrate on Amazon, which i think may have originally been recommended on ramen reddit: https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Noodles-Tonkotsu-Concentration-1-Pounds/dp/B00K69ZK46 Edit: Also even though we have left Okinawa the store finally got the beer from there in stock again. "Orion, Okinawa's Craft - The Draft" CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 21, 2022 |
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